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Substrate - Repti Bark???

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  • 08-28-2006, 11:56 AM
    Lioness
    Substrate - Repti Bark???
    ok..so i have repti bark as substrate for Fendi's enclosure..and I keep the enclosure in my office so its kind of hard to bring it up and down to empty it out and put fresh bark in it. I was wondering if anyone had some suggestions to different substrate that was easy to maintain, was aesthetically pleasing, and smelled fresh?? :confused:
  • 08-28-2006, 12:11 PM
    Kilo
    Re: Substrate - Repti Bark???
    Calcium Sand! Good for up to 6 months... use a poop sifter for daily spot checking.
  • 08-28-2006, 12:21 PM
    Lioness
    Re: Substrate - Repti Bark???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kilo
    Calcium Sand! Good for up to 6 months... use a poop sifter for daily spot checking.

    SAND?! ... from what i've heard and learned.. sand is really bad for most snakes..
  • 08-28-2006, 12:32 PM
    Smulkin
    Re: Substrate - Repti Bark???
    I would avoid sand - might be good for arid species - but BP's are hardly that. Same for the ground walnut shells (Desert Blend works ok for our Sudanese plateds but leeches any moisture right outta the air).
  • 08-28-2006, 12:37 PM
    Lioness
    Re: Substrate - Repti Bark???
    so im back to square one.. i knew sand wouldnt work becauses ive heard too many horror stories. any other suggestions??
  • 08-28-2006, 12:40 PM
    Smulkin
    Re: Substrate - Repti Bark???
    Well, my wife STILL uses aspen shavings and that has worked very well for her. It is very light colored compared to the bark substrates and in it's favor that helps in eyeballing where some spot-cleaning needs done.
  • 08-28-2006, 12:55 PM
    JLC
    Re: Substrate - Repti Bark???
    Seems to me like if you're using a glass tank and want "pretty" substrate, then no matter what you use, its going to involve regular cleaning and changing...which means lugging that tank up and down.
  • 08-28-2006, 01:16 PM
    Jeanne
    Re: Substrate - Repti Bark???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kilo
    Calcium Sand! Good for up to 6 months... use a poop sifter for daily spot checking.

    Kyle, calci sand (calcium sand) is not good for any species, including snakes, bearded dragons, leos, etc..... they say it is, but the bottom line is, you really cant be sure how much of that stuff your animal is or is not ingesting, leading to too much calcium possibly and still.... impaction. Yes, it is still possible, I have heard horror stories about that stuff, if you are using it for any of your herps, I reccommend getting them changed immediately to a more appropriate bedding. Calci Sand is a way for pet stores to sell you some pretty looking sand thats over priced.. and they really dont care that it is not good for the pet, they figure if they get you to buy that crud, and your animal gets impacted or sick from it and dies, "oh well- they will come buy more animals" thus boosting thier animal sales and the possibility of selling you more junk that either does no good, or alot of harm potentially. Another example.. heat rocks.
  • 08-28-2006, 01:45 PM
    jason221
    Re: Substrate - Repti Bark???
    Can you use peat moss for substrate with BPs? Seems like that would be easy to clean.
  • 08-28-2006, 01:47 PM
    Spaniard
    Re: Substrate - Repti Bark???
    I had been using desert snow for over a year, its white (looks pretty) and did a good job of clumping, also since it was white you always were able to spot a dirty area real quick. I spot cleaned as needed and then gave the viv a cleaning from soups to nuts every month. Its more expensive than aspen or anything else but I'll let you decide that. I just recently switched to aspen for cost reasons.
  • 08-28-2006, 02:18 PM
    JLC
    Re: Substrate - Repti Bark???
    Desert Snow? Is that just the white version of Carefresh? Or something different? If so, what's it made up of? Can I think of any more questions to pepper you with? :P
  • 08-28-2006, 02:20 PM
    Spaniard
    Re: Substrate - Repti Bark???
    I'm not familiar with carefresh, so I don't know. What I do know is that desert snow is made up of a hardwood pulp.

    Here is a link if you wanna check it out.

    http://www.t-rexproducts.com/Dynamic/default.htm
  • 08-28-2006, 02:30 PM
    JLC
    Re: Substrate - Repti Bark???
    Interesting...thanks Rich. The picture they had didn't really show what it looked like. If you have any pics, I'd be interested in seeing it...but there's no rush or anything, I'm just curious. :)
  • 08-28-2006, 02:35 PM
    Spaniard
    Re: Substrate - Repti Bark???
    Don't really have any good pictures but this is the best I could do for you from my computer at work.

    http://www.repticzone.net/images/19757/anubus.jpg

    http://www.repticzone.net/images/19757/tank.jpg
  • 08-28-2006, 02:39 PM
    JLC
    Re: Substrate - Repti Bark???
    Nice pictures, Rich...thanks! It does look just like Carefresh, which has a pure white version...but that's recycled paper, if I remember right. So maybe this is different. Not that I think there's anything wrong with either one....the name Desert Snow just captured my attention, I guess. :oops:
  • 08-28-2006, 02:43 PM
    Spaniard
    Re: Substrate - Repti Bark???
    Yea it is a nice capturing name....LLLReptile had it for really cheap at one point, they still do I think but if I got to my LPS they rip you off.
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