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  • 08-25-2006, 12:17 PM
    SPJ
    Ball Python x Childrens Python
    I was thinking about this last night.
    What do you think the offspring would look like?

    I am toying with the idea of trying this in the Spring.
  • 08-25-2006, 12:36 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Ball Python x Childrens Python
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SPJ
    I was thinking about this last night.
    What do you think the offspring would look like?

    I am toying with the idea of trying this in the Spring.

    Hmmmm,i have never thought of this crossing Steve:confused: .Not sure what the babies would look like unless it was a morph ball to the childrens python:cool: .
  • 08-25-2006, 07:24 PM
    Waldorf_301
    Re: Ball Python x Childrens Python
    you know what's messed up! lol
    I've never heard of the childrens python, so I looked it up on yahoo images, and a picture of a snake skin boot pops up!!! I just had to laugh...
  • 08-25-2006, 09:14 PM
    uro1001
    Re: Ball Python x Childrens Python
    it is impossible. balls and childrens are in a different genus thus not being similar enough to produce offspring. ive seen a woma and ball crossed but that is EXTREMELY unlikely to happen again. 100% of eggs are infertile but once in a million maybe one will be fertile.

    you will have better luck with python curtis. also if you want a nice intermediate hybrid you can get antaresia maculosa x antaresia childreni. or a.stimsoni x a childreni. there are 4 species in the antaresia genus(a stimsoni,a. maculosa,a. childreni,a.perthensis) and all can be bred together.:)
  • 08-25-2006, 09:23 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Ball Python x Childrens Python
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by uro1001
    it is impossible. balls and childrens are in a different genus thus not being similar enough to produce offspring. ive seen a woma and ball crossed but that is EXTREMELY unlikely to happen again. 100% of eggs are infertile but once in a million maybe one will be fertile.

    you will have better luck with python curtis. also if you want a nice intermediate hybrid you can get antaresia maculosa x antaresia childreni. or a.stimsoni x a childreni. there are 4 species in the antaresia genus(a stimsoni,a. maculosa,a. childreni,a.perthensis) and all can be bred together.:)

    Now days anything is possible;) .Ever heard of the blood python and the ball python cross?I know a guy who has crossed king snakes with milk snakes and corn snakes.He has also crossed the milks with the corns and they are sweet looking:D .Where did you get the idea that the woma and ball cross produces unfertile eggs? Check out kingsnake and look at what has been crossed with the womas,some are ugly some are sweet.
  • 08-25-2006, 09:25 PM
    uro1001
    Re: Ball Python x Childrens Python
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by joepythons
    Now days anything is possible;) .Ever heard of the blood python and the ball python cross?I know a guy who has crossed king snakes with milk snakes and corn snakes.He has also crossed the milks with the corns and they are sweet looking:D .Where did you get the idea that the woma and ball cross produces unfertile eggs? Check out kingsnake and look at what has been crossed with the womas,some are ugly some are sweet.

    balls and bloods are in the same genus. python. kings,milks and corns are in the same genus, lampropeltis. ive heard of python curtis x python regius thats why i said "you will have better luck with python curtis" :)
  • 08-25-2006, 09:28 PM
    Shelby
    Re: Ball Python x Childrens Python
    The closer the relation, the better chance you have. I have no first hand experience with hybrids, but cross genus breedings have certainly occured. Corn/king crosses are cross genus. The corn snake is a rat snake of the guttata genus.

    True impossibilities would be crossing snakes with different reproductive processes.. such as an egg laying python and a boa which gives live birth.
  • 08-25-2006, 09:33 PM
    uro1001
    Re: Ball Python x Childrens Python
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Shelby
    The closer the relation, the better chance you have. I have no first hand experience with hybrids, but cross genus breedings have certainly occured. Corn/king crosses are cross genus. The corn snake is a rat snake of the guttata genus.

    True impossibilities would be crossing snakes with different reproductive processes.. such as an egg laying python and a boa which gives live birth.

    ill believe it when i see it. you have a better chance of a burm x ball then a childrens x ball.


    ps:lol guttata is the species name. s corn snakes scientific name is Pantherophis guttata. :)
  • 08-25-2006, 09:36 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Ball Python x Childrens Python
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Shelby
    The closer the relation, the better chance you have. I have no first hand experience with hybrids, but cross genus breedings have certainly occured. Corn/king crosses are cross genus. The corn snake is a rat snake of the guttata genus.

    True impossibilities would be crossing snakes with different reproductive processes.. such as an egg laying python and a boa which gives live birth.

    See i thought i was correct about the king/corn crosses.Funny you should mention the egg layers and live bearers.Once i had a lady tell me she had a burmese boa constrictor:eek: .I walked away laughing :P .
  • 08-25-2006, 09:40 PM
    Shelby
    Re: Ball Python x Childrens Python
    Oops I meant elaphe not gutatta. lol I thought it was elaphe guttata guttata.. did they go changing genus names on me again?
  • 08-25-2006, 09:42 PM
    uro1001
    Re: Ball Python x Childrens Python
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by joepythons
    See i thought i was correct about the king/corn crosses.Funny you should mention the egg layers and live bearers.Once i had a lady tell me she had a burmese boa constrictor:O .I walked away laughing :P .

    lol ive rescued several "ball boas":D

    shelby- yes they did indeed change the genus from elaphae to pantherophis
  • 08-25-2006, 10:13 PM
    SPJ
    Re: Ball Python x Childrens Python
    Actually there is someone who has been attempting the burm x ball cross for some time now. Even took pics of them mating. So far no eggs but you never know.


    ball x angolan, ball x blood, ball x woma, burm x retic, carpet x GTP, gaboon x rhino......there are all kinds of crosses out there.

    I don't think anything is impossible anymore except for egg laying x live bearing crosses.

    I am just toying with the idea right now. My wife seems to think that this pairing would result in one very large snake (ie: one eating the other:D ).
  • 06-14-2012, 12:38 AM
    student
    Re: Ball Python x Childrens Python
    I'm curious were you successful with the breeding project. I would love to see a picture of a hybrid (children's balls). I have a large female children's pythons and a small male bp so I'm debating on trying to breed them.
  • 06-14-2012, 01:38 AM
    WingedWolfPsion
    Yes, the North American rat snakes were separated from the Elaphe, and assigned to Pantherophis.
    The corn/king hybrids are indeed across Genus boundaries, as kingsnakes are in Lampropeltis. It was quite a surprise. Reptiles don't seem to care as much about our taxonomic classifications as we do. ;)

    Burmball (Python X Python--same genus)
    http://www.johnberryreptiles.com/images/Burmball_3.JPG

    Wall (ball/woma cross) Python X Aspidites -- Different genus
    http://www.spitfirereptiles.com/sphp...4-0901.med.jpg

    Carpall (Carpet/Ball cross) Python X Morelia -- Different genus
    http://www.fororeptiles.org/galerias...1_Carpall_.jpg

    So, intergeneric hybrids don't appear to be very far-fetched at all, in snakes.

    However, from what I've read, someone has attempted to cross a spotted python with a ball python, and got locks, but there's nothing reported anywhere on any babies produced, yet. So, that's discouraging for the success of a Children's X Ball cross. Antaresia might not be compatible with Python.
  • 06-14-2012, 10:28 AM
    Mike41793
    Whoa this is an old thread! 6 y/o, thats like a new record lol!
  • 06-14-2012, 02:33 PM
    Anatopism
    Re: Ball Python x Childrens Python
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike41793 View Post
    Whoa this is an old thread! 6 y/o, thats like a new record lol!


    LOL I know, I was reading through this and was getting all huffy, thinking "It IS possible, it's been done, I even can find the photos.. just a second.. Yeah see! this hybrid HAS been do--- oooh.. I wonder if the thread is old. Yep. Thread is old." :cool:
  • 06-14-2012, 03:22 PM
    MasonC2K
    Zombie Thread!

    Kill it with fire!!
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