Pics of Kali's Tub... Need Advice

Before I place my baby blood girl Kali in her new tub I snapped some shots to make sure everything was perfect and ready to go! The last thing i need to do is attach the heat pad to the bottom!

Shot #1 top view
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...pofKaliTub.jpg

Shot #2 Side Top View
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...iewKaliTub.jpg

Shot #3 Pic of the Holes I made
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...tOfKaliTub.jpg

Is it ready to go?

Oh yea one more thing. The NERD's caresheet says I can keep the entire tub at an ambient temp of 84-86 providing that the overall room temp is not constantly fluctuating. Is this true?

Oh yea and one more small thing. Where should I pace the heat pad? (if the above is true) dead center? or the left or right side?

~Kyle

I would have melted the holes. Drilling them like that can make rough spots that if the snake rubs against them causing abrasions. I would try and make some sort of gradient.

I just finished melting them...

Snakey where are you I need your opinion about the heat pad placement and ambient temp!

What do you need to know about the heat pad?

read the bottom of my very first post lol!

I would put it on one side of the tub in a single corner with a hide on that.

even though the NERD's care sheet states that i can keep the entire tub at an ambient temp of 84-86?

And ambiant should be fine but I still like the idea of a gradient. If you put the heat mat at one side, he can still chose between a high of 88-90 and 80-85 cool side. Its really your call. People have kept bloods both ways with success

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Originally Posted by Kilo

even though the NERD's care sheet states that i can keep the entire tub at an ambient temp of 84-86?

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yes mate , place the heat pad at one end so you have a good gradient running underneath. They like to lay on heat after a meal but will spend most of their time on the cooler side in my experience.

Also I would add another hide mate , stick on at each end with the heat pad located under one end. Dont make it choose between regulating temp to feeling secure, it should be able to do both.

Aprt from that looks great.:sweeet:

Ok awsome! I have taken 2 more pics. One with 2 hides and one with a visual on how im going to place the heat pad!


Shot #1
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...NewTopView.jpg

Shot #2
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...dPlacement.jpg


So in your bloody exp am I ready to rock and roll? Or do I need more enhancements?

As long as you have some way to monitor and control temps, Your good to go!!

looks good to me, hows the humidity?

lol you didn't see that perfect Acu-Rite sitting in there? (I bought lowe's last one)

lol, didn't see that. Thats what I use too!!!

It's been about 5 minutes.. and my pad does not feel warm at all... the temp hasn't budged

Is it hooked to a dimmer or thermostat? It takes a while to get them warm.

it is hooked to a lamp dimmer... the only one I could find at lowes! To make sure the dimmer is good enough I took it off and plugged in the pad by itself. Now its warm enough for me to know it works. So now I ran it back through the dimmer so i can see it the dimmer lets enough volts pass through! (if not it will cool right back down right?)

How low or high was the dimmer set???

Was it this one?

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...39-TT300NLH-WH

It ws exactly that one.. and it was ALL the way up (to warm up faster).

I still have not moved my girl Kali from her tank yet.. I want everything to be perfect. (less stress)

Well hook it up to the dimmer and leave it for a while and come back. Good idea about not moving him yet. Good decision!

OMG all this time has passed (without the dimmer because i believe it cooled back down) and it has only raised 3.7 degrees! Show me a pic of and stats of the dimmer you use.

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Originally Posted by Kilo

OMG all this time has passed (without the dimmer because i believe it cooled back down) and it has only raised 3.7 degrees! Show me a pic of and stats of the dimmer you use.

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Don't worry, your heat pad's fine. That's normal for it to be slow to heat up. Mine took a few hours to get up to my desired temperature for my BP.

Btw, good move on the switch to a tub! You'll find it to be SO much easier to maintain than a tank.

Oh, and I saw the pictures of your blood python. Really nice!

Here ya go.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...21-06_2225.jpg

My dimmer is the same thing as you. My thermostat I'm asking for Christmas is a Herpstat. That way I can make a rack and get some flexxwatt.

Dimmer

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6...21-06_2230.jpg

good and yours works? about where do you have it set to keep perfect heat? OH and can you show me some pics of thermostats? It doesn't make sense at all how a thermostat is going to heat a rack or tank or tub! Or I'm sure the thermostat is regular the temp pf something else that is heating it? BUT WHAT?

The thermostat has heat tape, or heat pads hooked up to it, like a dimmer, but it has a probe, so it monitors the temp in one tub. ( Still, use a thermometer for monitoring temps/humidity) When it senses the temperature is too high, it cools the heat source down to the preffered temperature.

go to www.mgreptiles.com and click heating supplies. Then click thermostats and look at them. I've heard the best he has are the Herpstats, Rancos, and Johnson Controls.

IM SO PISSED. My damned temp won't rise above 84!!!


Could this be why?
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...ersideview.jpg

The bottom of the tub is not flush with a table. It is between 2 tables. (still not hooked up to the dimmer)

GRRRR

Yup. I just put mine under the tub. Some people like to put it an inch under the tub, but that is too high up.

The heat pad it attached to the tub? I don't have it not touching it? If I understand correctly although my heat pad is attached the space between it and the desk is causing the loss of heat?

Is it under the thermometer?

The thermometer is in the back left so it's about about 1/2"-1" away. I just moved it on top of the back of the heat pad along the back wall! (tongue twister) I guess I lied it's at 84.4. It is moving so slow!!!

I like having the thermometer away from the edge of the heat pad. Sort of like in the middle of the heat pad. You will get a better reading IMHO.

How on earth can I put it in the middle of the pad? that is the left side middle of the tub? all in my baby girls way :( But I supposed you are correct.. I need an accurate reading I can't have my blood burn.. My fiance would seen a grown man cry.

Ohh I could do what i think i saw in your pics... which was the thermo on the outside of the tub and just the probe in the middle of the pad correct under the newspaper?

I wouldnt do that because that tub I showed was for my corn snake. They only need a reading of the hot side and cool side, no humidity. You could put the accurite on the cool side, and put the probe in the hide, which looks like the middle.

That's probably where she will spend most of her time too... good idea lol. The reason i set it up like that is because (I BELIEVE YOU DID LOL) someone told me to put the main component on the hot side and probe on the cool side!

you should put the thermometer probe where the snake will be, inside the hide on the warm side.

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Originally Posted by Kilo

That's probably where she will spend most of her time too... good idea lol. The reason i set it up like that is because (I BELIEVE YOU DID LOL) someone told me to put the main component on the hot side and probe on the cool side!

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You could, but in your case it sounds better to do it the other way.

HOLY :cens0r::cens0r::cens0r::cens0r:. I put the main component on the cool side in the far corner and the probe in the middle of the hide (practically the middle of the pad) and the temp hit 100 degrees and appears to be climbing... I immediatly plugged in the dimmer! Now my only problem is in the one spot it is 100 but 4 inches away it was at 84.9. HOW in the heck am im going to know the actual temperature?????? How will know the snake will be ok if it leaves its hide!

just turn the dimmer down until you get the right temp.

HOW in the heck am im going to know the actual temperature when she is not in her hide??????? How will know the snake will be ok if it leaves its hide!

is it the hide area thats 100 or around the outside of the hide?

I have the prob directly under the newspaper directly in the middle of the hide/pad). And I have the dimmer on, and set to what i saw bpkid's at in his pic.

just turn it down until it gets to the temp you want.

it's at 90.1 then it dropped to 90 even so i slightly moved the dimmer to obtain a perfect temp. Again with my questions though. what about when the snake leaves the hide? or is anywhere else that the hide that prob is in! The main component of the acu-right sits on the cold side and read about 83-84

are you worried the snake will get too cold or hot from moving from one end of the tub to another?

wtf I move it up after that and the damned thing is still dropping.. I have the dimmer maxed out (making the red light on it brighter) and it is still dropping!!! DOES MY DIMMER WORK?

Thats a dimmer for ya, If you cant get the temps right then imo buy a thermostat. If you decide to buy a thermostat then get you some flexwatt along with it. Much better than the heat pad.

How does everyone else do it?!?!?

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Originally Posted by Kilo

How does everyone else do it?!?!?

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flexwatt and a good thermostat.

OMG WAIT LMAO... i cannot believe this.. i was moving it the wrong way.. when i thought i was turning it up i was turning it down!

Trust me.. when I start racking I will purchase a thermostat and flexwatt.