Logical breeding plan..? What's yours?

I am getting my pastel male in the coming week. Now my plans are, to breed him with my 2 breedable females this year. Hopefully, let's say, the odds will be in the 2 clutches, 6 pastels and 6 normals; selling them should give me enough room to keep one female Pastel and buy a female Spider. Then I would continue in the coming years to breed my Pastel male to the adult females, until the Pas female and spider are grown.. so is it logical that in breeding a Super Pastel to a Spider, I could produce Bumble Bees? If not, what would be the result..?
Oh, and what are your breeding plans for this year and on.. I am curious :)

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Originally Posted by Ginevive

I am getting my pastel male in the coming week. Now my plans are, to breed him with my 2 breedable females this year. Hopefully, let's say, the odds will be in the 2 clutches, 6 pastels and 6 normals; selling them should give me enough room to keep one female Pastel and buy a female Spider. Then I would continue in the coming years to breed my Pastel male to the adult females, until the Pas female and spider are grown.. so is it logical that in breeding a Super Pastel to a Spider, I could produce Bumble Bees? If not, what would be the result..?
Oh, and what are your breeding plans for this year and on.. I am curious :)

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If you breed a Super pastel to a spider you will get pastels,bumblee bees and a few normals.I am not sure if you would get any spiders,i might be wrong.O yea you have the same ideas i have for the future:cool: .I might do the super pastel not sure,i will have bumble bees though some day :P

I believe the Super Pastel would produce all pastels and you would get a chance at 50% of them being bumblebees from the spider gene. You shouldn't get any normals with a super breeding. If you breed a pastel to a spider you will get normals, spiders, pastels and a possibly some bumblebees. ;)

Bill is correct on this one. You will get by odds, %50 Pastels and %50 Bumblebees.

OK thanks guys now we will know :cool:

my "breeding plans" are just too breed my two normals. it should be happening this season because my females already 1300+ grams.

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Originally Posted by mr~python

my "breeding plans" are just too breed my two normals. it should be happening this season because my females already 1300+ grams.

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Nothing wrong with that,thats how i started out;) .Once you get the experiance of the breeding and incubating its all up hill from their lol:P

Thanks! My plan for the Supers, is to breed the keeper female to my male Pastel. Of course, that is many years down the road :)

That sounds like a sweet plan Jen, bees would be so cool!!


My plans are super simple. Black eyed leucistic with some random neat ball python morphs along the way :clap:

Awesome; a black-eye leucy would be well worth your time/money :D

I agree! Crossing my fingers for this time next year :clap:


Oh yeah...the rest of my plan includes my santapython program. From which Luna came from :D

Are you just crazy excited about your pastel Jen???

I am going nuts; made the final payment. Now I think I just need to wait for the Sutherlands to get home from Daytona to ship him!

What/who is santapython? Is that the snake who brings my BPs their christmas presents?

Lets see...... i want to make some albinos(IM CRAZY FOR BINOS:rolleye2: )

Id like a yellow bellie pair...a lucy and a fire ball....and bummble bees!!



Theres some other spiceies too.....hehe.

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Originally Posted by cueball

I agree! Crossing my fingers for this time next year :clap:


Oh yeah...the rest of my plan includes my santapython program. From which Luna came from :D

Are you just crazy excited about your pastel Jen???

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Am I on Santa pythons List??

I want a female reduced pattern..please(or an albino ,lol:rolleye2: )

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Originally Posted by stangs13

Lets see...... i want to make some albinos(IM CRAZY FOR BINOS:rolleye2: )

Id like a yellow bellie pair...a lucy and a fire ball....and bummble bees!!



Theres some other spiceies too.....hehe.

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Stangs you just crazy because you are from Texas :P .Sorry for hi-jacking here but could not resist it :cool:

I'm going to breed my two normals when they are ready. Then I'll just wait until either I move out of a college dorm(if I have to live in one) or finish college to breed a Mojave that I'm buying next two years to my female, then I breed a female Mojave back to the daddy, and make some LUCYS!!!!! I might even start a bumblebee project when I'm done with college.

My plan for this year is pastel x normal in Nov , next year is when thing's get alot more interesting. Albino's might be on the menu and I'll definitely breed my Hetpied male so I can get those possible female's. My pastel goal's are as follow's sell some male's and keep one female , My ultimate goal is to produce a Super. There might be a Spider in my future which I resisted at daytona. You all know what happen's if I get the Spider. Beee'sss

If you breed a Super Pastel and a spider, you are going to get Killer Bees in the clutch also, btw.

not always.

True, but you have a GOOD chance.

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Originally Posted by mr~python

not always.

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Odds for bumblebees on a super pastel X spider should be 50% pastels and 50% bumblebees. Pretty good odds. ;)

Actually, you won't get any killerbees. Both parents have to be atleast Pastel to get Killerbees. Ways to make Killerbees:
Pastel x Bumblebee
Bumblebee x Bumblebee
Killerbee x Pastel
Killerbee x Bumblebee

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Originally Posted by muddoc

Actually, you won't get any killerbees. Both parents have to be atleast Pastel to get Killerbees. Ways to make Killerbees:
Pastel x Bumblebee
Bumblebee x Bumblebee
Killerbee x Pastel
Killerbee x Bumblebee

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Good catch Tim, I was thinking bumblebees as you can tell by my post. :oops:

Oh yea, thats right.

Sorry for the mix up...

But killer bee's, bumble bee's, any bee's are fine in my book.

Getting my female pastel is my top priority atm, then a male pastel the year before she turns three. Breed them an hope i get something good.
I'm not relying on a super- but i would love to get some pastels to sell as yearlings and a normal female or two to sit on and raise up. if nothing else i'll start collecting 'nice' female normals to raise and then sell. there will always be a market for those. eventually when i do get my super depending (im hoping for a male! please!) i'd breed it back to ma' and once i have me 1.1 of super blushing & clean supers i'll sell my pastels (minus personal collection or fabulous breeders) and move into spiders and homozygus clowns.

year 0 (this year):
Pastel x Normal
SHCTA x SHCT het for albino leopard geckos

year 1 (next year):
Pastel x Normal
Pastel x Pastel (if she is ready)
Irian Jaya Carpet pythons

year 2
Pastel x Normal
Pastel x Pastel
Het ghost x het ghost (if female is ready)

I still have any empty slot in my ball python rack (ok, right now the empty slot is a leo egg incubator :P) , so I may pick up another het ghost female/cinnamon pastel/spider/mojave in the future. I love the pastel cinammon pastel combos.

I don't want to wear my pastel male out, and if he doesn't seem to be interested in breeding, I have a normal male for a backup plan (for this year anyway). Issa has very light coloring for a normal (there are times when he almost looks like a dirty hypo, but he doesn't shed clear), and I'd like to see what that may do when later crossed into some of the morphs. Anyway, considering Q's age, I doubt he's not interested in breeding. Also, with two males that are breedable, I can also combat them in to get them stimulated, if I need to.

Spider (the invert kind :P) and scorpion production will continue (I have like 50-60 scorpion babies atm :omg)

I would like to pick up a sonoran het for albino gopher snake to bred with my female. I don't know if I'll ever breed my short tail pythons.

If i had the cash...


I'd get some Cinnies!

Cinny X Cinny = Super Cinny
Cinny X Pastel = Pewter
Super Cinny X Pastel = Silver Bullet

Theres SO many combos with them.
I wonder what would happen with a YB and a Cinny...hmmmm...rubs chin

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Originally Posted by Ginevive

What/who is santapython? Is that the snake who brings my BPs their christmas presents?

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That's me wearing a lil red hat handing out baby ball pythons to good girls and boys across the land :clap:

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Originally Posted by stangs13

Am I on Santa pythons List??

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You sure are :pinkele:

I would really like to see you hatch out your own albinos some day Justin :gj:

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Originally Posted by shhhli

Getting my female pastel is my top priority atm, then a male pastel the year before she turns three. Breed them an hope i get something good.
I'm not relying on a super- but i would love to get some pastels to sell as yearlings and a normal female or two to sit on and raise up. if nothing else i'll start collecting 'nice' female normals to raise and then sell. there will always be a market for those. eventually when i do get my super depending (im hoping for a male! please!) i'd breed it back to ma' and once i have me 1.1 of super blushing & clean supers i'll sell my pastels (minus personal collection or fabulous breeders) and move into spiders and homozygus clowns.

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Nice plans :gj:

Spiders are sweeeeeeeet :cool: