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  • 08-18-2006, 02:10 PM
    Pork Chops N' Corn Bread
    Which breeding project to do and why
    Decided I am going to do some breeding project. Set on a few of them but I am open. Vote please and HELP me make up my mind

    1. 1.0 het albino and 0.3 normal female adults. Breed back all the pos het female to a het male and hope to make some albinos
    2. a 1.1 pair of het albino and raise them to breed
    3. 1.0 normal het pied and breed him to 0.3 normal females and do the same as option 1.
    4 Other idea that won't make me go broke

    Sorry, the poll didn't work
  • 08-18-2006, 02:16 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Which breeding project to do and why
    I thought you were going with a pair of 100% het albinos? Why waste your time if your possible hets do not prove out?
  • 08-18-2006, 02:17 PM
    cassandra
    Re: Which breeding project to do and why
    You need to decide which morph you want to go as well as decide on a budget.

    If you decide on albino and have the budget and impatience, then go for the 1.1 het albinos...if you decided on albino but have a small budget, then a 1.0 het albino and normal girlies will be a great way to break into breeding with a small amount. If you want pieds, again, figure out your budget and go from them.

    But really, you first need to decide which morph makes you the most excited and then figure out how you can get that with the budget you have. =)
  • 08-18-2006, 02:20 PM
    elevatethis
    Re: Which breeding project to do and why
    Which do you like better? Albinos or pieds?

    1. Takes a long time, cheap. 3 years to raise the normal girls (plus $ for food, caging, etc) then another 3 to raise the possible hets. If you saved $10 a week for the same period of time, 6 years, you'd have $3,120....you could buy a few albinos with that!

    2. 1.1 pair is more expensive but will give you a good shot at albinos. Still a roll of the dice.

    Same goes for the pied scenario. Just some food for thought.
  • 08-18-2006, 02:23 PM
    cassandra
    Re: Which breeding project to do and why
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by elevatethis
    If you saved $10 a week for the same period of time, 6 years, you'd have $3,120....you could buy a few albinos with that!

    That's where I am. I have no patience and in the same amount of time it would take to raise up, breed and hope I got a homogenous animal from het or het to poss het pairing, I could just buy the snake I wanted, know exactly what it looks it and know it was bred by someone far better than me!

    But I'm impatient...=)
  • 08-18-2006, 02:30 PM
    elevatethis
    Re: Which breeding project to do and why
    I think the only "hole" in what I said above could be this- what about the joy and experience of breeding and hatching out your own morph? That's something else that needs to be weighed in to your own equation of what is worth it to you and what's not.
  • 08-18-2006, 02:41 PM
    Pork Chops N' Corn Bread
    Re: Which breeding project to do and why
    I'll see what they have at the show oct 1st. If they have het albinos, I'll get a pair from someone I can trust. If they have a good price on some normal females. I may have to do that. I'm sure you'll see another couple animals in my sig pretty soon...Keep throwing out you oppinions on it though please
  • 08-18-2006, 02:43 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Which breeding project to do and why
    Pieds Baby !!!!!
  • 08-18-2006, 03:00 PM
    elevatethis
    Re: Which breeding project to do and why
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pork Chops N' Corn Bread
    I'll see what they have at the show oct 1st. If they have het albinos, I'll get a pair from someone I can trust. If they have a good price on some normal females. I may have to do that. I'm sure you'll see another couple animals in my sig pretty soon...Keep throwing out you oppinions on it though please

    I'd be incredibly weary on purchasing hets from shows. It just seems too easy for someone to get away with something...

    Give Adam at 8Ball a call...he does payment plans and is so easy to deal with. I've seen his record keeping system myself and trust it completely!
  • 08-18-2006, 03:14 PM
    Sputnik
    Re: Which breeding project to do and why
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pork Chops N' Corn Bread
    I'll see what they have at the show oct 1st. If they have het albinos, I'll get a pair from someone I can trust. If they have a good price on some normal females. I may have to do that. I'm sure you'll see another couple animals in my sig pretty soon...Keep throwing out you oppinions on it though please


    Research your seller before buying. There are a lot of good sellers out there that also do shows. Nothing like picking up something nice from a show to take home... makes the whole day a great one!


    Good luck, I hope you find something nice at the show. :)
  • 08-18-2006, 03:38 PM
    Schlyne
    Re: Which breeding project to do and why
    I'd go for the 1.1 het albino option.

    Ok, this has never happened to me with balls, but I've looked at my irian jaya carpet python project before, and considered selling them. They just don't interest me as much as the others, but I've already invested 2 years into them. They should be ready to breed next year or so. I also have somebody who really really wants one of the babies. Anyway, you might want to keep in mind that after you've spent several years of time invested into them, you might not be real happy playing with the possible hets and still not getting anywhere.
  • 08-18-2006, 03:44 PM
    Pork Chops N' Corn Bread
    Re: Which breeding project to do and why
    Thanks guys. I think the het albinos would be a better idea. I wish I could send out the money now but i have to wait till we are in the new house. Waiting sucks. Almost at 400 cash now!!!
  • 08-18-2006, 03:48 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Which breeding project to do and why
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pork Chops N' Corn Bread
    Thanks guys. I think the het albinos would be a better idea. I wish I could send out the money now but i have to wait till we are in the new house. Waiting sucks. Almost at 400 cash now!!!

    Relax :P .Like i said earlier buy what YOU want.Otherwise you will regret buying something later on because it was something YOU did not want.The money is not going to explode if you do not spend it soon :P .
  • 08-18-2006, 03:49 PM
    Sputnik
    Re: Which breeding project to do and why
    LOL... I know how you feel, waiting sucks big time! :)
  • 08-18-2006, 06:48 PM
    Pork Chops N' Corn Bread
    Re: Which breeding project to do and why
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by joepythons
    The money is not going to explode if you do not spend it soon :P .

    Thats the problem with money. It goes into bad stuff I shouldn't say here If I don't put it into a project. Well rib fest is in a few minutes. Gotta head out
  • 08-18-2006, 06:51 PM
    Shaun J
    Re: Which breeding project to do and why
    DO THE SNOW BOAS!!!!

    Like you said. Lol.
  • 08-18-2006, 07:30 PM
    ssscales
    Re: Which breeding project to do and why
    Regardless I would still like to produce some Super Pastels and Bumble Bees.
    I'd also love to add Albinos and Pieds to the collection.

    I already have 10 females growing nicely and added already my Pastel male. All I need now is the Spider male and I should have a few Pastels and Spiders either next year or the year after and plan on holding back every single one to produce some Supers and Bees by 2010/2011.

    Next year I'd like to acquire 0.3-0.4 100% Het Albino and 100% Het Pied females and in the next 2 years add the Albino & Pied males to go with those girls. Hopefully I'll have some Albinos and Pieds of my own by 2010/2011.

    That's basically all I want out of BP's for now. From there I'll play around and work on some Albino Spiders or Pied Albinos...should be fun seeing what hatches.
  • 08-19-2006, 12:07 AM
    Pork Chops N' Corn Bread
    Re: Which breeding project to do and why
    Snow boas....Man, I don't know if I will be able to feed 2 more boas yet. I'm sure I can though. I'll have to see what the show offers me
  • 08-19-2006, 12:49 AM
    Shaun J
    Re: Which breeding project to do and why
    Well, in that case, I would just do the 1.1 Albino het pair
  • 08-19-2006, 07:41 AM
    ssscales
    Re: Which breeding project to do and why
    I thought this was just referring to Ball Python Projects?

    Boa projects on the table in the next 1-5yrs:
    Albinos including Pastel Albinos & Corals
    Sunglow & Sunglow related
    Snow & Snow related
    Anery
    Ghost
    Motley, Albino Motley, Hypo Motley & Sunglow Motley
    Super Motley & combos
    Salmons
    Hypos
    Pastels
    Poss Caramel or T Positive
    Hypo Hogs
    Sunsets

    I think that covers it, but I'm sure we'll be adding some more to that list as new morphs are discovered or developed.
  • 08-19-2006, 07:52 AM
    Emilio
    Re: Which breeding project to do and why
    Well Jake I would say number 2 , the 100% Het pair for albino. Don't worry the pied's will come in time when you start breeding albino's that's what I'm going to be doing also. I'll tell you this I'm in daytona and all the big breeder's said the pied is king followed by albino's and bumblebee's. Good luck with whatever you decide.
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