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First Crestie Questions

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  • 08-13-2006, 12:05 PM
    frankykeno
    First Crestie Questions
    Okay little Sprocket seems to be doing okay....just a couple of questions though.

    He's got lots to vines, a tree, etc. to climb on at different angles. He does seem to find a spot he likes though and spend hours in one position (at least from what I've seen last evening and so far today). Is he napping? Is he scared to move or is this just normal Crestie behaviour?

    As far as I can tell he hasn't touched his gecko diet. How long before I should worry about that? Should I try to spoonfeed a bit to him (I seem to remember Emily mentioning something about doing that but can't find the thread now).

    Just to check that I've got his feeding schedule down right.

    1) I was planning on offering the crested gecko diet meal replacement daily. Should I offer it at night or in the morning or does it matter?

    2) He gets misted through the day and also has a tiny bowl of water if he wants that as well.

    3) I got the live worms for him that I will offer Monday, Wednesday and Friday and dust them with the recommended vitamins.

    4) Should I offer natural fruit (no sugar added) baby food as well? How often? Should I also mix vitamin powder in that?

    Okay and really dumb question but I can't find the answer anywhere online. What does their defecations/urinations look like? Sprocket's currently on papertowels. I seem to remember someone talking about them picking a toileting corner but I can't remember if that was leopard gecko's or cresties.

    Sorry for the tons of questions. I thought I'd done some decent research but this little critter is to alien to me I'm a very nervous first time crestie mom LOL.
  • 08-13-2006, 01:27 PM
    Schlyne
    Re: First Crestie Questions
    Leo's tend to pick a tolieting corner, cresties will go anywhere.

    How often were you planning on offering the baby food?

    I always offered the MRD at night, but that had more to do with my schedule and the time I am walking around changing water and the like for everybody.
  • 08-13-2006, 01:39 PM
    Glaedr
    Re: First Crestie Questions
    1. I offer mine at night because they are nocturnal and probably wont eat during the day.

    2. Sounds good!

    3.Cresties won't always eat worms because they don't move as much as crickets, however, my crestie, Tigger, prefers worms, so there are exceptions.

    4.Baby food is fine to give to them but most people feed it as treats rather than a staple diet. You can add the vitamin powder to that, but if he has it on his crickets, he'll be fine.

    Their defications and urinations have a small dark brown sausage shaped bit on top with some white urates underneath. They're really small on baby cresties, and sometimes hard to see if it's in the leaves.


    Oops, forgot your first question. Cresties spend lots of time in their leaves. You can tell if he's napping because his eyes will appear a little sunken in and his eyelashes will droop.

    Glad your asking questions - it shows you care!!! Hope this very long post helps!!!
  • 08-13-2006, 01:43 PM
    recycling goddess
    Re: First Crestie Questions
    my cresties LOVE their silkworms!!! they also love their crickets and honestly, i dont' know if they eat their babyfood with the crestie powder added in but i offer it regardless. ;)

    and yup... they hang around and don't move unless they are on the hunt for food!
  • 08-13-2006, 01:44 PM
    recycling goddess
    Re: First Crestie Questions
    oh my goodness... i didn't notice it was you jo! congrats on your crestie... it's about time you came over to the crestie side LOL

    :D:D:D:D
  • 08-13-2006, 04:18 PM
    mlededee
    Re: First Crestie Questions
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by frankykeno
    He's got lots to vines, a tree, etc. to climb on at different angles. He does seem to find a spot he likes though and spend hours in one position (at least from what I've seen last evening and so far today). Is he napping? Is he scared to move or is this just normal Crestie behaviour?

    he's just napping or resting. gotta take a break from the leaping around sometimes. :)

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by frankykeno
    As far as I can tell he hasn't touched his gecko diet. How long before I should worry about that? Should I try to spoonfeed a bit to him (I seem to remember Emily mentioning something about doing that but can't find the thread now).

    it is quite common for cresteds not to eat at first while they are adjusting and settling into their new environment. i usually don't even offer food until they have been in their new enclosure for 3-4 days. give him at least a week before you start to worry about him not eating and after that you can try dabbing some food on his nose and letting him lick it out of a spoon if you want to.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by frankykeno
    1) I was planning on offering the crested gecko diet meal replacement daily. Should I offer it at night or in the morning or does it matter?

    i offer it at night since they are generally sleeping during the day. you can leave it in the enclosure for up to 48 hours or until it starts to mold. you can observe how much sprocket eats and mix up enough to last for 2 nights at a time.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by frankykeno
    2) He gets misted through the day and also has a tiny bowl of water if he wants that as well.

    perfect

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by frankykeno
    3) I got the live worms for him that I will offer Monday, Wednesday and Friday and dust them with the recommended vitamins.

    what kind of worms? mealworms aren't really a good choice for cresteds because their chitinous shells are too hard for them to digest, therefore cresteds don't get much nutritional value out of them. if you have to feed mealies you can cut off their heads or prick them multiple times with a pin so that the nutrional goodness gets out when they are being digested. wax worms are really high and fat and should only be offered as a treat. on the other hand, silk worms and phoenix worms are both great sources of nutrition.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by frankykeno
    4) Should I offer natural fruit (no sugar added) baby food as well? How often? Should I also mix vitamin powder in that?

    if you feed the t-rex diet there is no need to feed any other kind of mix. baby food should really only be offered as a treat, once per week or less. if you feed it too often they won't eat their cgd, but instead will hold out for the baby food, which doesn't contain all the vitamins and nutrients that they need.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by frankykeno
    Okay and really dumb question but I can't find the answer anywhere online. What does their defecations/urinations look like? Sprocket's currently on papertowels. I seem to remember someone talking about them picking a toileting corner but I can't remember if that was leopard gecko's or cresties.

    it looks kind of like a really small bird dropping. black with a little white bit of urates on the end. cresteds go whenever and where ever they please, unlike leos, which will use a certain spot, making it super easy to clean their cages.
  • 08-13-2006, 06:50 PM
    rabernet
    Re: First Crestie Questions
    Emily, I see that Petco also sells what they call a superworm. Would that be better than a mealworm? Also, where do most of you get your silkworms from?
  • 08-13-2006, 07:04 PM
    mlededee
    Re: First Crestie Questions
    no, superworms are basically big mealworms and it seems like their shell is even tougher. they also can bite your gecko in the tongue or inside of the mouth which can cause injury. i don't even feed them to my leos anymore, i just use lots and lots of mealworms for them. my vet once told me about a chameleon that got its tongue bitten by a superworm--that resulted in some bad things.

    right now i just feed cgd and crickets, so i'm afraid i can't help you with where to get silk worms. you may be able to pick some up in daytona and breed them yourself if you are interested.
  • 08-13-2006, 08:24 PM
    frankykeno
    Re: First Crestie Questions
    Thanks everyone for all your help. I'm starting to feel far more comfortable with the little fellow. He's found the hidey hole in his tree (like a little cave inside) and has been napping in there on and off all day. His enclosure is nice and stable other than I have to move it during a few hours in the afternoon as the sun comes through the window and pops his temps up too much. I'll be rigging up some sort of window shade tomorrow to deal with that problem. Other than that his temps and humidity are within the correct ranges.

    Gosh but these little boogers are cute!

    Oh last question is about handling. How much is okay and how much is too much for these precious cuties. As much as I just enjoy watching him bop around I'd like to occasionally handle him but don't want to overdo it especially when he's just a little one right now.

    Btw Mike and I both held some baby Bearded Dragons at the show. Oh but they are sweet things. One of them is definitely in our future at some point.
  • 08-14-2006, 05:05 AM
    Glaedr
    Re: First Crestie Questions
    I handle mine as and when, they don't seem to mind. I just let them walk across my hands and don't really 'grab' them. I know when to put them back because they get jumpy, and this is usually after about 10 minutes.
    Hope this helps.
  • 08-14-2006, 09:25 AM
    frankykeno
    Re: First Crestie Questions
    We had little Sprocket out for a few moments last night and he happily licked some CGD off his nose when I dabbed it on. I tried to offer him some on the end of a teaspoon Emily and the silly boogerhead hopped right on the spoon and got it all over himself LOL. How cute!

    Anyway this morning there are clear lick marks in his bowl of GSD (right down to the bottom) so he must have been eating overnight. Yay for Sprocket!
  • 08-14-2006, 10:15 AM
    mlededee
    Re: First Crestie Questions
    ha haa, mine LOVE to jump in the spoon and make a huge mess. :P

    *splat!* *run up mom's arm leaving sticky footprints everywhere!*

    sounds like you have a good eater on your hands there! since sprocket is from matt i guess i should've expected that. :gj:

    as for handling, about 5-10 minutes once or twice per day now, and as sprocket gets older and more used to handling you can increase the time some. they definitely calm down some as they mature, making handling easier, although i have found that adults that weren't handled as juvies are somewhat insane to handle and really don't tame down. i have a few cresteds that i got as adults, or close to it, and they obviously were never handled much--i pretty much only handle those when necessary, otherwise it's just too much stress on everyone.
  • 08-14-2006, 04:20 PM
    tigerlily
    Re: First Crestie Questions
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by frankykeno
    Okay and really dumb question but I can't find the answer anywhere online. What does their defecations/urinations look like? Sprocket's currently on papertowels. I seem to remember someone talking about them picking a toileting corner but I can't remember if that was leopard gecko's or cresties.

    Congrats to the dark side Jo! :devilish: What a cutie, and I love the name. (plus I can spell it!! :neener: )

    You wanted to know what crestie poo looks like? Here ya go....
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...9/geckopoo.jpg
  • 08-14-2006, 05:00 PM
    cassandra
    Re: First Crestie Questions
    This is why I love this forum...we share pictures of poo and we like it!

    Seriously, I need a t-shirt that says "I <3 Herp Poo!"
  • 08-14-2006, 05:58 PM
    frankykeno
    Re: First Crestie Questions
    Yay I have Crestie poop! LOL Peeked in while gabbing on the phone to Jeanne this morning and there was this lovely little poop (my gawd you know you are wierd when you are asking a friend on the phone to describe crestie turds to you LOL). Anyway he's eaten and pooped so those are all good things. He feels so lovely to handle...like a cross between the best velvet and a really buttery suede.


    I'm so in Crestie love :love:
  • 08-14-2006, 09:40 PM
    tigerlily
    Re: First Crestie Questions
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cassandra
    This is why I love this forum...we share pictures of poo and we like it!

    Seriously, I need a t-shirt that says "I <3 Herp Poo!"


    LOL!! You're right. It didn't even occur to me, that anyone would be grossed out or offended by that lovely picture of poo. :rofl:

    This is such a great place!! :grouphug:
  • 08-14-2006, 09:43 PM
    tigerlily
    Re: First Crestie Questions
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by frankykeno
    Yay I have Crestie poop! LOL Peeked in while gabbing on the phone to Jeanne this morning and there was this lovely little poop (my gawd you know you are wierd when you are asking a friend on the phone to describe crestie turds to you LOL). Anyway he's eaten and pooped so those are all good things. He feels so lovely to handle...like a cross between the best velvet and a really buttery suede.


    I'm so in Crestie love :love:

    Cresties are just great. They're so sweet, and remind me of little dragons (just softer ;) ) I'm so glad you are enjoying your residence on the dark side. :sweeet:
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