quesetion re: albinos + axanthics = a white snake?

I have read that breeding an albino to an axanthic produces an all white BP; first of all, is this true? Second, if so, is this how to produce a leucy? I thought that involved yellowbellies...? I am very con-fuzzled here; please enlighten me!

To the best of my knowledge, albino x axanthic was the first "combo" morph to be accomplish. Or the first double-het combo, anyhow. It's called "Snow" and they are mostly white with red eyes. But they do have some pattern visible and get darker with age.


http://ballpython.com/morph.php?morph=snow

yeah the Albino x Axanthic with get you hets to produce the Snow ball, YB x YB makes an Ivory.

Here's another question (thanks for the info.) Would all the babies from that clutch be snows, or would there be anything resembling a normal? My brain has trouble believing anything normal could come out of that; am I a nut? :)

Depends on which clutch you're talking about. If you have a pair of Double Hets (albino and axanthic) these are the possiblities that you could see in any given clutch:


normal
het albino
het axanthic
double het
albino
axanthic
albino het axanthic
axanthic het albino
snow

Any normal looking babies would be "poss dh for snow" meaning they could be carrying both genes or one of either. The visible morphs would be "albino poss het axanthic" etc....because there's no way of knowing which genes went where until they prove out via breeding.

Aren't Double Hets FUN??? :P

(disclaimer....I THINK I got all the above info correct...I'm sure someone will let me know if I left something out or otherwise messed up!)

wow; thanks!
I was talking about breeding an albino male to an axanthic female..

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Originally Posted by JLC

To the best of my knowledge, albino x axanthic was the first "combo" morph to be accomplish. Or the first double-het combo, anyhow.

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Nope, it was the caramel glow by Kev@NERD.

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

Nope, it was the caramel glow by Kev@NERD.

-adam

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Aha! I did not know that. In that case, let me rephrase....the Snowball was the first DH combo that ~I~ ever heard of! :P

But at least I got my list of possible babies right! ;) Didn't I?

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Originally Posted by Ginevive

wow; thanks!
I was talking about breeding an albino male to an axanthic female..

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In that case, all the babies would LOOK normal, but they would all be 100% DH for Snow.

Okay, Ms. Smarty Pants! :)

Adam and I were talking on the phone a few weeks ago, and we were discussing all of the possible outcomes from a Bumblebee Het Axanthic to a Pastel Het Axanthic. See if you can list all of the outcomes... :) (There's a bunch!)

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Originally Posted by ddbjdealer

Okay, Ms. Smarty Pants! :)

Adam and I were talking on the phone a few weeks ago, and we were discussing all of the possible outcomes from a Bumblebee Het Axanthic to a Pastel Het Axanthic. See if you can list all of the outcomes... :) (There's a bunch!)

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Pp Ss Aa

x

Pp Aa

Pastel
Pastel het Axanthic
Pastel Axanthic

Spider
Spider het Axanthic
Spider Axanthic

Het Axanthic
Axanthic

Super Pastel
Super Pastel het Axanthic
Super Pastel Axanthic

Bumble bee
Bumblebee het axanthic
Bumblebee Axanthic

Killer Bee
Killer bee het Axanthic
Killer Bee Axanthic



I may have missed some, its early

That's my goal; I am getting an albino male to breed to all my girls; then I'll get an axanthic girl and snow will fall! (or hatch..)

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Originally Posted by Ginevive

That's my goal; I am getting an albino male to breed to all my girls; then I'll get an axanthic girl and snow will fall! (or hatch..)

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You realize that breeding an albino to an axanthic will result in normal looking offspring that carry the gene for both albinism and axanthism ... and then breeding those normal looking offspring together is what actually produces a snow? .... about one out of every 16 eggs give or take. :sweeet:

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

You realize that breeding an albino to an axanthic will result in normal looking offspring that carry the gene for both albinism and axanthism ... and then breeding those normal looking offspring together is what actually produces a snow? .... about one out of every 16 eggs give or take. :sweeet:

-adam

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That's the tough nut to crack, but once you have a double homozygous male, yay odds!

Brian,
You did miss one in your list above. Highly unlikely, but you could get a Normal as well.

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Originally Posted by muddoc

Brian,
You did miss one in your list above. Highly unlikely, but you could get a Normal as well.

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darn it! :) you got me!


1/32 chance?

LOL! I still think you did pretty good.