-Mice & Rats-

is there only 1 size of feeder MOUSE...or do they have large ones also?

like when ur snake gets too big for mice do u go right to rats or do they have bigger mice?

Mice only get so big once your snkae out grows them move to rats of just a little bit bigger than a full grown mouse. For most people this is a weanling or a small rat. but you have to judge.

there are diff. sizes to mice, but mice don't come very large. 3 inches at most.

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Its easier to think more in terms of weight.

An adult mouse can weigh in anywhere from 30-50 grams. Its Rat counterpart would be a "weaned" rat which runs about the same weight.

Ryan, it all amounts to what you have available to you in terms of what you should do. Most people have a hard time finding live rats in smaller sizes, others don't.

All sizes available, I'd start a hatchling on hopper mice, move them to rat fuzzies/pups after a few weeks, then go up to weaned rats, then smalls, etc etc...

Multiple adult mice at the proper interval can be fed to 400-500+ gram ball pythons without any concern.

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Originally Posted by elevatethis

Its easier to think more in terms of weight.

An adult mouse can weigh in anywhere from 30-50 grams. Its Rat counterpart would be a "weaned" rat which runs about the same weight.

Ryan, it all amounts to what you have available to you in terms of what you should do. Most people have a hard time finding live rats in smaller sizes, others don't.

All sizes available, I'd start a hatchling on hopper mice, move them to rat fuzzies/pups after a few weeks, then go up to weaned rats, then smalls, etc etc...

Multiple adult mice at the proper interval can be fed to 400-500+ gram ball pythons without any concern.

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weaned rats r different then SMALL rats?

yup...slightly smaller than a small!

http://www.rodentpro.com/products.asp

That may help...click on mice and rats and it will show you a list of their sizes. It varies slightly from supplier to supplier, but that should give you a broad idea of how the sizes work! :sweeet:

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Originally Posted by elevatethis

http://www.rodentpro.com/products.asp

That may help...click on mice and rats and it will show you a list of their sizes. It varies slightly from supplier to supplier, but that should give you a broad idea of how the sizes work! :sweeet:

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awesome..i like that site...thanks

so if i went into my pet store...is this what i would ask?

"Can I have a small feeder rat?"

A "small" is a totally ambiguous term, especially in a pet store of all places. Just ask to see the sizes, and pick something that is slightly smaller than the max point of girth for your snake.

Are you switching to rats from mice right now?

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Originally Posted by elevatethis

A "small" is a totally ambiguous term, especially in a pet store of all places. Just ask to see the sizes, and pick something that is slightly smaller than the max point of girth for your snake.

Are you switching to rats from mice right now?

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not right now but soon i will have to, Ryan Jr. is getting bigger...

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Originally Posted by elevatethis

A "small" is a totally ambiguous term, especially in a pet store of all places. Just ask to see the sizes, and pick something that is slightly smaller than the max point of girth for your snake.

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Totally. One reptile shop* (that sells feeders) small will actually be more like a rat weanling, not a "small adult", another shop's small will really be a medium adult...you gotta see the sizes.

Check out the pictures and measurements on themousefactory.com - their pictures have better comparisons, I think. And Mouse Factory is a high recommended seller of F/T feeders here on BP.net, well above that of RodentPro (just in case you were thinking of buying F/T).

That does give a better side by side for size.

But now I have a question. I have only two snakes how do you thaw out ony two if they come all frozen together in a container like that ??

just a side note I feed PK and am thinking of switching the FT.

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Depends on where you buy your f/t from. The Mouse Factory www.themousefactory.com packages them side by side on a styrofoam freezer tray (like steaks come on at your grocery store) and then seals them. You just slit open one end and slide them out, pop off whatever you need, slide the tray back in and then I always popped the whole deal in a big freezer grade ziploc since I'd broken the vacuum seal on the original packaging. No idea how any other company packs them though.

While I've not ordered them myself, they are flash frozen, so they're not stuck or frozen hard together, so you can easily deattach the one you want to feed, like Jo said...=)

Thanks I just didn't want to have to cut them apart or have to thaw the whole thing out to get two or three of them off.