* Feeding Outside of Tank *

does anyone else here feed their snake in a box OUTSIDE of their tank....not just put the mouse in their tank???

I don't feed my boa in his cage at all, I take him out put him on the bed and feed him there. That is his preference so I do it. I don't see the harm in it, if they are eating great. Do what ever it takes. Does your snake not want to eat in the cage?

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Originally Posted by Alecz

I don't feed my boa in his cage at all, I take him out put him on the bed and feed him there. That is his preference so I do it. I don't see the harm in it, if they are eating great. Do what ever it takes. Does your snake not want to eat in the cage?

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i never tried it in the tank, its just that when i bought it, the pet store told me that its better to feed the snake outside of the tank just b/c then they associate eating w/ outside of the tank and they wont ever bite u when u put ur hand in the tank...it sounds smart...

again, i wouldn't take pet stores advice, The only petstores advice I would take around here about snakes is vet pets because the guy that owns it breeds and keeps snakes and he knows about them, places like hole in the all petshops, petco, petsmart, etc, don't know much about the snakes they sell.

but I have fed in the tank before and havent been bitten, there are plenty of people that feed inside the tank, usually if you get bitten over feeding it's because you still have a hint of mouse or rat on your hand. But honestly, I've never had that problem. You can feed inside or outside the cage, which ever way your snake eats best.

yeah, the snake eats perfectly when i put it in the box to feed so i might as well just stick wit it

Well guy's I feed my snake's in their enclosure's and I've never been bit.I guess it's whatever you feel comfortable doing.But the whole explanation isn't completely accurate.I handle my Bp's twice a week sometime's three they don't confuse my hand for food and never have.

yeah, pet store ppl r stupid cuz BP's are extremely docile...i dont think they wanna bite no matter what happens...

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Originally Posted by emilio

Well guy's I feed my snake's in their enclosure's and I've never been bit.I guess it's whatever you feel comfortable doing.But the whole explanation isn't completely accurate.I handle my Bp's twice a week sometime's three they don't confuse my hand for food and never have.

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If you are referring to the explanation when I said they could bite because you have a hint of mouse or rat on your hand, I was just saying it could happen because I know alot of people it has happened to, but i have never had a problem with it, I have pet rats and hold them all the time and then pick my snakes up, never been mistaken as food or bit.

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Originally Posted by rmune0750

yeah, pet store ppl r stupid cuz BP's are extremely docile...i dont think they wanna bite no matter what happens...

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well some have bad tempers, the reduced pattern balls at vetpets struck at everything, though I wanted them alot I did not have enough money for them and they proper cage so I have to wait on them. But yes over all bp's are pretty docile and if you buy them and they aren't they calm down usually fairly easily.

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Originally Posted by rmune0750

yeah, pet store ppl r stupid cuz BP's are extremely docile...i dont think they wanna bite no matter what happens...

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Not all BP's are docile. And even the docile ones can and will bite if provoked to do so, either out of fear, or due to a feeding error. (If your hand smells like a rodent, for instance). You may never get bit....but don't assume that because it hasn't happened that it never could.

As for feeding inside/outside the snake's enclosure....the whole "theory" that a snake will become aggressive if fed in its own home is bunk, and doesn't even make any sense if you just think about it for a moment. If it were true, then the snake would also associate being taken OUT of its enclosure with feeding time and then become aggressive every time you took it out....yes?

Some people feed outside the enclosure for a variety of reasons, but it is not something you MUST do. If it is working for you, then fine. If it's not, then there's nothing wrong with trying it the other way.

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Yes I do try and make sure my hand's don't smell like rodent that's very important. Also JLC is right if it was so confusing for them then they'd get you when you are taking them out to feed.

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I feed in my tank but thats cause mine are so laid back. If you handle your snake everyday or even everyother day then the imprint of you opening the cage and handleing them over powers the one of them getting food. But it depends on the snake

I also feed in the tank and feed live to boot.
Sometimes when it's close to feed day and I open the cage Ozzy will come out in the "feed position" until he realizes it's just me and no food then he settles down. It's got to be all about the smell and not about the opening of the cage IMO

my snake is hyper but has a great temper

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i never tried it in the tank, its just that when i bought it, the pet store told me that its better to feed the snake outside of the tank just b/c then they associate eating w/ outside of the tank and they wont ever bite u when u put ur hand in the tank...it sounds smart...

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It sounds smart if you don't know anything about simple logic. Here goes my statement I've made over and over and over and over and over and over again in thread after thread after thread like this:

If you make an arguement that feeding a snake inside of its own cage will cause the snake to associate a keeper entering the cage each and every time with feeding, then you can also make and arguement with equal weight that if you remove a snake from its cage to feed it, it will expect to be fed each and every time you remove it from the cage, including for handling sessions.

Alright so theres the 12th grade reading level response...here's the 6th grade response: It doesn't matter if you feed inside or outside. Whatever works for you and your snake.

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Originally Posted by Alecz

well some have bad tempers, the reduced pattern balls at vetpets struck at everything, though I wanted them alot I did not have enough money for them and they proper cage so I have to wait on them. But yes over all bp's are pretty docile and if you buy them and they aren't they calm down usually fairly easily.

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I've been to that store recently, and I was unimpressed with their bp care. They had one gorgeous girl, in very cold conditions, because she likes it that way! :fishslap: One hide and one HUGE water dish. Well of course she's going to prefer one side, the other side is aquatic!! Anyway, he tried impressing me with his bp knowledge but didn't manage to succeed. I've also been in that store and seen animals that have had no water AT ALL!

As for the feeding issue, I agree with whatever works best for you and your snake. Bps are more shy, and so usually feeding in the enclosure will work best. I started out feeding in a separate enclosure with little success. I have much better feeding responses now.

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i have soo much success w/ out of the enclosure....lets battle!
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Originally Posted by rmune0750

i have soo much success w/ out of the enclosure....lets battle!
lol:sabduel:

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Good for you. :rockon:

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Originally Posted by tigerlily

Good for you. :rockon:

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Originally Posted by rmune0750

does anyone else here feed their snake in a box OUTSIDE of their tank....not just put the mouse in their tank???

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No, all fourteen feed IN their enclosures from the security of their hides.

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Originally Posted by rabernet

No, all fourteen feed IN their enclosures from the security of their hides.

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Originally Posted by rmune0750

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Ryan, you can't ask a question and then get angry when people answer it. :rolleyes:

When does school start again?

i feed my snakes in there enclosure. i used to fed them in a seperate box but i didnt like it.

first, ball pythons are shy snakes and the stress of moving before feeding time could cause the snake not to eat.

second, moving the snake after eating always increass the risk of regurgitation.

third, i think its better that they like be able to 'hunt' from their secure hiding spot.

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Originally Posted by elevatethis

When does school start again?

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i think its Sept. 8th for me! LOL:)

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Originally Posted by elevatethis

When does school start again?

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LMAO!

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Originally Posted by rmune0750

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Why are you mad?

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Originally Posted by elevatethis

When does school start again?

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Soon, I hope! :D

I asked this same question when i got mine and Adam gave me a counter argument to it which made perfect sense. feeding in the tank doesnt associate the hand going in (or tongs or whatever) with feeding. Besides i dont let my snake see me actually put it in there in case it was to mistaken accidentally my hand for the food (body heat and the smell of the mouse) I feed in the tank and have no problems picking him up

Yes, both my little tiny corn and my BP have feeding tanks that are used instead of their houses. I started doing that simply because I was told to, then after we had Dax (our BP) for about 2 months, I went into a pet store to pick up some crickets and they showed me their cute little baby corn snake, which they feed in its viv. Everytime something moved within its field of vision, it snapped. It thought everything was food, even people trying to pick it up.

it wasnt snappy because it was being fed in its viv.

if one could argue tey get aggressive when their viv is opened because of feeding in the viv one could argue just as easily that it will get aggressive when its tooken out because of being fed outside of the viv. its common sense.

im so confused right now, when did i ever get mad...ppl r asking me y im mad and that i shouldnt snap at ppl but i dont remember ever typing ne thing that seemed angry....

ooooo that random mad face...i just randomly threw that in there, im not actually mad at all...lol

I feed a lot of my snakes out of their enclosures primarily because I house some of them together (not a good idea, I now know). I think the reason that theory about them not associating being fed when you pick the snake up works because if you take your snake out to feed every week, then you are handling your snake at least once a week. If you just throw food in there and never handle it otherwise, then your snake isn't going to be as accustomed to being handled. Feeding time is really almost the only time that I handle mine, and since I take them out they all get handled once a week, and aren't nippy about it. Now, if you skip a week or two before you feed you've skipped two handling sessions and two meals, and I'm sure the snake will be a lot more eager to eat whatever warm thing gets close to it.

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Originally Posted by rmune0750

ooooo that random mad face...i just randomly threw that in there, im not actually mad at all...lol

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It's very hard to 'read' your threads and figure out what you are intending to say. If you not angry then don't use that smilie, or at least use a j/k or something. We're not mind readers. It would help if you slowed down a bit, and put a little more thought into your posts. I know it would be a well received effort.

i feed all of mine in their tubs, never had a problem with them confusing my hand for a rat? they definately know the difference between feeding day and the other days of the week. it is mostly preference for us keepers, imo. i don't think the snakes have a particular opinion on dining in or out:hungry:


vaughn

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