My Burms

Hi, I am new to the forums and am just posting some photos of my animals in their appropriate threads...

As far as giant pythons go, I keep a female albino Labyrinth Burm and a male Green/Patternless. :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...pig/burms4.jpg

They are very beautiful! I love burms.

Have you considered the risks of keeping them together? ..such as disease/parasite transmission, stress caused due to one exerting dominance over the other (this can appear as them being 'friendly' or curling up together, when they are really just competing for the best spots in the cage) or even cannibalism.

It is generally said that one snake per cage is the best for the animal.. snakes are not social and were not made to live in close quarters with each other.

That said, they are gorgeous and look very healthy. :)

I suppose I am not fully aware of all the risks of keeping snakes together. I do it with almost all of my snakes... I keep my 3 young corns together, a couple baby balls together, the burms together, an adult pair of balls together, and my two young Columbian red tails together. I haven't had any problems as of yet, but I think I will consider more seriously a good way to set them all up in their own quarters.

The Burms competed like that a lot when I had them in a 55 gallon aquarium but they have since been moved to the equivalent of about a 200 gallon tank, and don't share the same spot often at all anymore, so hopefully that is at least a little better for them.

But thank you for the feedback and I am always eager to learn more to better care for my animals.

Wow, that patternless is absolutely beautiful. Nice Looker.

Beautiful snakes! Your male looks like he has such a sweet curious face and I love his color, just beautiful. :) I second Shelby on the seperate enclosures. If one gets sick, they all get sick, and the risks of cannibalism and stress are just not worth it.

Thanks for the input... most of my reptile knowledge comes from an exotic pet store I used to work at, and now that I don't work there anymore, the more I learn from other sources, the more I realise what a crummy (for lack of a more harsh word) job they are doing with their snakes.

Yeah, pet stores can feed you a lot of bad info and it seems to work at first glance.. but your animals will be healthier and happier (as happy as snakes can be anyway lol) if they have their own enclosure.

I'd worry especially about the corn snakes cannibalising.. colubrids are more apt to do it than boids, but I have seen pics of a red tail that had eaten his ball python cage mate.. then regurgitated him. Not charming.

Wow, a boa with a python, huh? I definately at least heard about not caging different families of snakes together, which is why I thought it was acceptable to keep the same species together.

It's apparent that you do your best to take great care of your snakes. They look awesome! It's always great to see someone willing to learn new and better ways of doing things. :colbert2:

Welcome fellow Texan :cowboy:


Great looking burms!!

Will you be attending the ETHS show in Sept?

Not unless it is in Houston...

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Originally Posted by Rapture

Not unless it is in Houston...

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It is in Houston and is a great time! You should check it out. I'll prolly be there screwing around :carouse:

http://www.eths.org/

HEY ANOTHER TEXAN IN THE HOUSE!!!! Im going to the show, its going to be awsome:banana: .

Love the burms!!! Exspecialy the green!

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Originally Posted by cueball

It is in Houston and is a great time! You should check it out. I'll prolly be there screwing around :carouse:

http://www.eths.org/

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I can see it know ,hehe Ill be walking with my parents through the show and this guy comes runnign through the iels (sp) and hits someone and he gets kicked out :P . I need to figure out what I want to get from there!! Its hard. Welcome to BP.net!!

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It is in Houston and is a great time! You should check it out. I'll prolly be there screwing around :carouse:

http://www.eths.org/

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Thanks for the info, I am now planning on attending... A couple questions though, what does it cost to get in and which events can non-members attend?

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Thanks for the info, I am now planning on attending... A couple questions though, what does it cost to get in and which events can non-members attend?

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Im pretty sure members can attend all events, im nopt sure on the price ,ill email and ask though!

also you might want to worry about them breeding, i can't tell how big they are by the pic, but they look huge :-D

They are beautiful BTW

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Im pretty sure members can attend all events, im nopt sure on the price ,ill email and ask though!

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Thanks!

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Originally Posted by MAG_Pythons

also you might want to worry about them breeding, i can't tell how big they are by the pic, but they look huge :-D

They are beautiful BTW

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Well neither one of them are breeding size yet I don't think, and if they did in fact breed I would only worry if the female was not in breeding condition first... I did get a male and female for a specific reason.

your sig is cute :)

Haha, thanks :P

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Thanks for the info, I am now planning on attending... A couple questions though, what does it cost to get in and which events can non-members attend?

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You can go to as much of it as you like. The Fri night thing is cool, but you need to sorta know people t enjoy it. The speakers on Sat are always interesting and the dinner and auction that night is fun. The door cost for the show on Sun is usually 6-10 bucks. Or free if you are with me :P

No offense, but I doubt I will be with you... :P

I told my friend about it and she wants to go with me on Sunday, and hopefully I can get my Beloved to come as well.

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No offense, but I doubt I will be with you... :P

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I have been owned on bp.net...shocking :O

I think you will have a great time. Tons of great vendors. If you do not like standing in long lines I would suggest waiting to go until around 1pm ;)

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I have been owned on bp.net...shocking :O

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Not the first time and probably not the last, brother!! :D

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Not the first time and probably not the last, brother!! :D

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No kidding. I get owned almost daily...thanks to you :sabduel:

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No kidding. I get owned almost daily...thanks to you :sabduel:

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You are ok in my book...Of course my book is a Stephen King novel but whatever...

So THAT'S what that chapter was about... Ah HA! I understand everything now.

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You are ok in my book

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:hump: 4 life!

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Of course my book is a Stephen King novel

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hahahahaha

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I have been owned on bp.net...shocking :O

I think you will have a great time. Tons of great vendors. If you do not like standing in long lines I would suggest waiting to go until around 1pm ;)

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Oh I think I will thoroughly enjoy myself. I have never gotten to see all the cool ball morphs in person before, I am looking forward to that. I just have to see if I can save up some money for the occasion... :hmm:

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Originally Posted by cueball

I have been owned on bp.net...shocking :O

I think you will have a great time. Tons of great vendors. If you do not like standing in long lines I would suggest waiting to go until around 1pm ;)

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How come youll be standing in line for a long time? Ill stick with cue!!! hehe.

Here's a new shot of the Green.

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k1...111/green3.jpg

:)

he's beautiful!!!

Beautiful burm! If I wasn't paranoid about the health issues I've heard about greens having, I'd be tempted to get one, but I already have one burm (a granite) and no room for another really.. lol

Really, what kind of health problems are you referring to? I love the granites and the labyrinths. :)

It seems to be that greens are prone to 'burm's disease' -symptoms include chronic respiratory infection, among other things that have slipped my mind for the moment. Many die after they are a couple of years old.. the problem is that they die after they are old enough to breed, so the gene is perpetuated. It seems that greens are genetically unhealthy.

However, I don't know anyone who keeps them, so my knowledge is not first hand, just stuff I have read online.

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...but I already have one burm (a granite) and no room for another really.. lol

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Harry the Ham! Methinks it's time for new pictures of Harry...=D

Hang on, are you going to seperate all those snakes or leave them to compete for the best spots? It'll probably happen however large the vivarium you have is, there can be only one best spot. Then there is always the absloute ease with which disease spreads.

I am planning on seperating all of the snakes, however that is going to take some time and money on my part, although I still conclude that they are not competing as much in this larger enclosure as they were before. But yes I plan on seperating them all ASAP.