Not good; really graphic pic..

Well, it all ended as far as this egg was concerned today. We looked in to see how things were going in the r-maid and were greeted by the worst stench I have ever smelled coming out of the egg. We decided to slit the egg, to see what was really going on in there, and the yolk and veins were black mostly; smelled like a rotting corpse. I think that since the yolk was rotting, and had to have been for awhile now, it was only a matter of time before the entire snake died. It was very misshapen and deformed lokoing as you can see from the pic.
This actually happened with the other eggs, though it was right away; they all had this similar smell of death and the rotting.
I am pretty damned upset right now; I just know that this snake was dead before we slit it today. The yolk was black and disgusting and the snake actually was seperated from the sac at the cord; seemed like it was bleeding into the egg and when we took it out, the blood was already in the shell. I have no idea how this happened; we never flipped the egg during candling, never dropped it or anything. I guess mother nature can be a cruel wench sometimes. Here is the pic.. I am really upset.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v6.../deformed1.jpg

Oh Jen, I'm so sorry for your loss! I know you were really pulling for this little guy!

thanks; the worst part is him coming so far and then this happening. I can see how even the skin under his jaw (it was visible throuhg the home in the egg yesterday) took no a blackish hue; I know he was a goner. I don't know if it was a genetic thing, as his bldy is so oddly bloated and bunched up in places. It looks like maybe (I know little about eggs and the science behind them) that maybe the snake was taking too long and possibly outlived its egg's yolk, which started going bad? I wish I knew.

Sorry Jen. We will all have to go through this sooner or later. Hope next year is better for you!

Jen i am so sorry that this happened as i know you had your heart set on this one making it :( .Here is a hug from the family here :grouphug: ,i know its not much.

I'm really sorry things didn't work out. :disbelief I know it has been tough from the start, but I hope this doesn't get you too discouraged from trying again. :petting:

I'm so sorry. I've been following your threads on this and to see it come to this... I'm just really sorry.
But hopefully all your bad luck was used up this year so that next year it all goes to plan.

I'm sooooooo sorry about the loss of your last baby! :hug: to you Gen.

i'm soooo sorry to read this :(

sending loving hugs your way!

:hug: :hug: I'm so sorry, hon... sometimes it's just not meant to be I guess... We were all pulling for the little guy... I hope you don't get discouraged too, and do try again next year! :hug: :hug:

So sorry to hear about this. My thoughts are all for better outcomes in the future. *hugs*
Wolfy

I'm really sorry....hugs and sympathies and better luck next year!

I appreciate everyone's sympathy a ton. I am still upset but I know in the breeding of any animals, this is bound to happen. At least now I have my incubator waiting and know what to expect; next year will be better.

So sorry to read this Gin. I've no experience with egg hatching so little to say of any real consequence but like you I'd be searching for answers and info about what occurred. Big hugs dear and I'm sorry you and your boyfriend went through this experirence with such a sad ending to it.

Jen I wished to extended my deepest condolences. I know what you are going through, as I went through it earlier this year with one of my hatchlings. It is definitely heart wrenching. But, keep your chin up and look forward to next year. It can only get better.

Sincerely,

Thanks guys; I seriously appreciate it. I am still bummed today about it; like something's missing. I guess you really can't count your eggs until they actually hatch.
I have a theory; since the egg was so badly dented, it seems almost like the snake only had half an egg to develop in; maybe that's why his body was so bunched up? I don't know; next time I breed I'll know not to spray the eggs directly with water, and then not to let them get too dry after doing so and finding out that was wrong.
Maybe other can learn from this; other beginner breeders may not know, not to spray water right onto the eggs. I would just ask anyone that has a caresheet on eggs and breeding to advise this.
You guys are awesome.

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Really sorry to hear about that Jen. I hope that this does not deter you from trying again in the future. :(

Thanks; I am definately trying this (for next) year. I am in the process of looking for a weird male, possibly a het for something.

This was a sad thread to click on, Jen. :hug: I'm sorry things turned out this way.

Thanks; I won't forget everyone's sympathy. :)

Oh gen I am sorry we were really pulling for the litte guy. I know your heart broken. Things will work out next year.

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I am very sorry for your loss! I know you where really excited and nervous and worried and hopeful and caring during this whole process. I hope this will not discourage you from trying again next year with the knowledge and experience you gained over the past couple of months.





I have been blessed with healthy baby ball pythons this season(my first also) and I would more than happy to share my success with you. You may have one of my babies if you like.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...bpbabyhide.jpg

Awwww what a sweet gesture Cue! You really are a big softie aren't you LOL

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I am very sorry for your loss! I know you where really excited and nervous and worried and hopeful and caring during this whole process. I hope this will not discourage you from trying again next year with the knowledge and experience you gained over the past couple of months.





I have been blessed with healthy baby ball pythons this season(my first also) and I would more than happy to share my success with you. You may have one of my babies if you like.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...bpbabyhide.jpg

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Oh wow; I don't even know what to say! I think I am going to work today with smudgy eyeliner, being all misty eyed now :)

I will definately accept your offer.. do you have one in mind (the one in the pic?) I can definately promise he/she will live in the best home possible (got a r-maid that was waiting on my other hatchling.)

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Oh wow; I don't even know what to say! I think I am going to work today with smudgy eyeliner, being all misty eyed now :)

I will definately accept your offer.. do you have one in mind (the one in the pic?) I can definately promise he/she will live in the best home possible (got a r-maid that was waiting on my other hatchling.)

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I know you will provide a loving home :grouphug: I'll take individual pictures this evening and let you choose. I hatched one boy and three girls so you will have some variety to choose from.

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Awwww what a sweet gesture Cue! You really are a big softie aren't you LOL

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Here's something to hold you over with Jen :pinkele:


http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...pbabygroup.jpg

Cue, that is one of the nicest gestures I've seen in a while on a ball python forum. :banana:

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Cue, that is one of the nicest gestures I've seen in a while on a ball python forum. :banana:

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Cue is a superstar. No doubt in my mind! That rocks dude!

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Here's something to hold you over with Jen :pinkele:


http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...pbabygroup.jpg

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Wow! I don't know how I'll choose. :) I was thinkin' about this all day at work; not even the nasty lady who hung up on me, got me down :P
I can pay shipping, definately. Can't wait to see individual pics.
I kinda like the one on the outside top right; is that the male or a girl?

Remember when you told me about me own good karma Cue. You just got a whole pile of it yourself hon. Senseless acts of kindness are a wonderful thing!

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Alrighty Jen. Let the fun begin :D

I had four babies hatch out. So far two of them are eating and growing. I would like for you to pick one of those two if that's ok with you. I will feed them a couple of more times and then you may have him/her. Please let me know what you think :)

Here is the female...she's a doll :buttercup
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...n/bpbabyf3.jpg

Here is the male...he's a rascal :cool:
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...n/bpbabym4.jpg

Here is the male above(on the right) with a female(on the left) that has not eaten yet. You can see the size difference already!!!
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h2...zebabycomp.jpg

/super big hugs Jen

I'm so sorry to hear about the baby...=( I'm sure he's slithering away to his hearts content, along with Tim's twins, in snakey heaven (which is, of course, filled with little mousies who can't run very fast!).

And Cue, bless you. What a sweet guy...underneath the makeup, fishnets and pink "I <3 Jimmy" spandex jumpsuit, Chris has a squishy heart of gold. =)

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Thank you Alice. I knew when I read this thread it was the right thing to do. No question about it :grouphug:

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Just trying to keep up with you guys :carouse:

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Remember when you told me about me own good karma Cue. You just got a whole pile of it yourself hon. Senseless acts of kindness are a wonderful thing!

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Pay it forward right? This group has been great to me from day 1 :grouphug:

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underneath the makeup, fishnets and pink "I <3 Jimmy" spandex jumpsuit, Chris has a squishy heart of gold. =)

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How can you see me right now????

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It'll have to be the girl on the top; I heard an audible click when I looked at her!
They are eating mice at this point, right? My friend has a couple of preggo mice that I can buy from her; I was thinking of getting into mousey breeding anyway..
You definately have some awesome karma coming your way, Cue. My first successful clutch, providing everything goes good with it, you get one. :)
Thanks everyone else also, for the outpouring of caring. I honestly know of no other forum that is so awesome.

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Excellent choice Jen!! She is much prettier than in the pictures and is the most outgoing of all of them for sure.

She is eating live rat pinky/crawlers but I'm sure would like mice just fine. If it's ok with you I would like to feed her a couple of more times to make sure she is well started before her big journey.

Thank you for your consideration and kind words! I think you will really enjoy her.

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Cool; it'll give me a little time to get the r-maid set up (not that it's going to take that long. :) How long/how many grams is she? I have 2 dfrnt r-maids and am windering which to set up.

Perfect! She is 92 grams now, up from 72 grams at birth. Think super tiny :D

Yay! I have just the right r-maid. I'll be countin' the days. I'll PM you about the details..
Why Jimmy look so sad now??

That is by far one of the Nicest things I have seen happen in a very long time.

This forum rules.

That's what make's BP.net the best ,Cue you rock that's one of the nicest thing's I've seen on the forum. Jen congrat's and again sorry about what happened , let it give you more motivation for next year.

Thank you for the kind words Chanarita and emilio. It was the least I could do. Jen is getting her new baby ball python tomorrow morning :clap:

I can't wait!!! I got her ltitle cage all set.. c'mon FedEx, hurree!