Shipping Snakes???

Going to put a couple of guys on Kingsnake.com and want to know what everyone thinks about all of the different shipping companies and how to go about shipping them. Any suggestions welcome. thanks.

Here is the info for getting certified theu fedex.Do not try to ship snakes thru the USPS as it is a federal felony. Here is the link to the thread. http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...light=shipping

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Originally Posted by Bernie

Going to put a couple of guys on Kingsnake.com and want to know what everyone thinks about all of the different shipping companies and how to go about shipping them. Any suggestions welcome. thanks.

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Delta Dash or FedEx. Thats it as far as I am aware unless things have changed. Delta requires certification and a visit from a representative. FedEx requires certifications (there is a thread here and if you search for it, you will find all the instructions). Anything else is illegal.

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Originally Posted by jglass38

Delta Dash or FedEx. Thats it as far as I am aware unless things have changed. Delta requires certification and a visit from a representative. FedEx requires certifications (there is a thread here and if you search for it, you will find all the instructions). Anything else is illegal.

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We both posted about the same time ;)

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Originally Posted by joepythons

We both posted about the same time ;)

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Thats because we are both wicked smart :D

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Originally Posted by jglass38

Thats because we are both wicked smart :D

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Well, I think that is up to debate. ;)

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Originally Posted by Wild Bill

Well, I think that is up to debate. ;)

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Awwwwwwww thems fighting words :sabduel: lol

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Originally Posted by Wild Bill

Well, I think that is up to debate. ;)

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:giggle:

Shipping snake using UPS is illegal?

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Originally Posted by monk90222

Shipping snake using UPS is illegal?

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I don't think UPS ships reptiles knowingly.Shipping thru the United States Postal Service is illegal BIGTIME.Only FEDEX and Delta Dash are the only ways to ship snakes from my knowledge.Fedex you have to go thru there certification and sign a waiver before you are approved to ship thru them.

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Originally Posted by joepythons

I don't think UPS ships reptiles knowingly.Shipping thru the United States Postal Service is illegal BIGTIME.Only FEDEX and Delta Dash are the only ways to ship snakes from my knowledge.Fedex you have to go thru there certification and sign a waiver before you are approved to ship thru them.

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UPS allows shipping of some live animals. Snakes are not on the list.

Shipping Live Animals
UPS provides service on a limited basis for packages containing some types of live animals. The term "animal" as used herein refers to anything living, except plants. While the list of "Accepted Live Animals" provided herein is an exhaustive list of animals that can be offered for transportation in accordance with the conditions listed, the list of "Prohibited Live Animals" is only a partial list of animals provided to clarify specific species that are not accepted for transportation and may not be shipped via UPS. Any animal not specifically listed on the "Accepted Live Animals" list is prohibited by UPS and will not be accepted for transportation.

Packages containing live animals must be prepared in accordance with the requirements as specifically stated herein. Packages containing live animals must provide for the basic humane care and safety of the animal during transportation. Any package containing a live animal shall be considered a perishable commodity and will be accepted for transportation solely at the shipper’s risk for any damage or loss arising from the perishable nature of the item. UPS shall not be liable for any special, incidental, or consequential damages.

In the event a package containing a prohibited item is found en route or in the UPS system, that package will be stopped at the location or UPS facility of the discovery. UPS reserves the right to dispose of the package. http://www.ups.com/img/1.gif

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Endangered or Threatened Species
In addition to the Prohibited Live Animals list provided here, any live animal that is an Endangered Species is prohibited by UPS and will not be accepted for transportation. Shippers must refer to the list posted on the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service Web site, and the Endangered and Threatened Wildlife and Plants 50 CFR 17.11 and 17.12, December 1999 (pdf file). http://www.ups.com/img/1.gif

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Service Type
Live animals will only be accepted for transportation when shipped via UPS Next Day Air service, and such shipments will only be accepted Monday through Thursday. http://www.ups.com/img/1.gif

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Packaging
Design and Construction of the Primary Container: All live animals offered for transportation must be in a new box. Corrugated boxes must be constructed of a minimum of 275 # bursting strength corrugated or 44 edge crush test. It is recommended that any package containing animals requiring moisture during transportation be constructed of water-resistant material such as wax coated, wax impregnated, or plastic corrugated. Minimal ventilation holes should be provided as necessary.

Internal Packaging and Other Considerations: Internal packaging materials must be used based on the characteristics of the animal, taking into consideration the necessary humane care for the animal while in transportation. Lizards and geckos should be individually contained in bags constructed of breathable material, such as burlap. Insects should be contained in individual primary containers such as plastic jars with ventilation. Fish must be double bagged in strong plastic bags with a minimum thickness of 4 mils. Each primary bag should be approximately one third full of water with the remainder filled with oxygen.

Package Testing: Any packaging used or developed to transport animals should be submitted to an International Safe Transit Association (ISTA) certified package testing laboratory for pre-shipment testing in accordance with ISTA Procedure 3A before being offered for transportation.

Additional Considerations: Additional components such as food, moisture, and temperature controls should be added as necessary to provide a safe environment during transportation. Additional dunnage should be added to prevent movement of the primary containers or receptacles within the outer box. http://www.ups.com/img/1.gif

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Accepted / Prohibited Live Animals
Accepted Live Animals

This is a comprehensive list of live animals accepted for transportation. Shippers are prohibited from shipping any animal not listed here, and all other live animals will not be accepted for transportation. The following live animals are accepted for transportation unless poisonous, venomous, and/or a Threatened or Endangered Species.

• Amphibians (All): Examples: frogs, salamanders, toads
• Crustaceans (All): Examples: crabs, crawfish, lobsters, shrimp
• Fish (All)
• Insects (Limited to beneficial insects only): Examples: bees, butterflies, crickets, lady bugs
• Mollusks (All): Examples: clams, mussels, snails
• Reptiles (Limited to the following):
  - Lizards: Examples: chameleons, geckos, iguanas, monitors, flying dragons
  - Turtles: freshwater turtles (except: snapping turtles), land tortoises, sea turtles
• Worms (All)

Prohibited Live Animals

Live Animals that are prohibited from being shipped and are not accepted for transportation include, but are not limited to:

• Any poisonous, venomous or threatening animal
• Any Threatened or Endangered species
• Arachnids (All): Examples: mites, scorpions, spiders, ticks
• Birds (All)
• Crocodiles (All): Examples: alligators, caimans, gavials
• Mammals (All)
• Obnoxious Insects: Examples: flies, locusts, mosquitoes, roaches, termites, weevils
• Snakes (All): venomous and non-venomous

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If I am not mistaken, UPS allowed live snake shipments at one point in time. Those people that had accounts before UPS changed their policies are still allowed to ship snakes via UPS, but new 'snake shipping' accounts will never be opened. That is why some of the breeders that have been around for 10+ years still ship UPS. Maybe someone like Kara elaborate more since I am pretty sure NERD still ships UPS.

Fedex works great and I have yet to have any problems with them. Actually, they have treated me so nicely over the last year that I will go to them for even non-reptile related shipments.

LOL....UPS had trouble finding my house the last time a package was sent (non-reptile).....

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Originally Posted by daniel1983

If I am not mistaken, UPS allowed live snake shipments at one point in time. Those people that had accounts before UPS changed their policies are still allowed to ship snakes via UPS, but new 'snake shipping' accounts will never be opened. That is why some of the breeders that have been around for 10+ years still ship UPS. Maybe someone like Kara elaborate more since I am pretty sure NERD still ships UPS.

Fedex works great and I have yet to have any problems with them. Actually, they have treated me so nicely over the last year that I will go to them for even non-reptile related shipments.

LOL....UPS had trouble finding my house the last time a package was sent (non-reptile).....

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Yea at one time UPS did ship snakes but they changed there rules.Like you said some still do ship the UPS since they were allready approved.Fedex and myself got off on the wrong foot at first,long story lol.UPS totaly damaged a item i bought and was shipped thru them and told me it was not there fault :mad: .It does not shock me that they were unable to find your home :rolleyes: .Fedex all the way!!!!!!

I've shipped a bunch of times with FedEx and everything has been perfect.