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Substrate for my BP

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  • 07-14-2006, 07:17 PM
    bernardtheballpython
    Substrate for my BP
    I was wondering what the best substrate for my BP is. I currrently hav him on Repti-Bark.

    Thanks,
    Koolio Jackson
  • 07-14-2006, 07:35 PM
    cassandra
    Re: Substrate for my BP
    We have quite a few threads on this subject, both what people mostly use as well as discussions on why so your best bet might be to use the search tool to have a look. =)
  • 07-14-2006, 08:44 PM
    python kid
    Re: Substrate for my BP
    i use repti-bark also and it works great it keeps the humitidy up,and it doesn't seem to bother him.
  • 07-14-2006, 09:39 PM
    JenHarrison
    Re: Substrate for my BP
    I use Carefresh in my rack tubs, but when I had tanks, I used shredded coconut husk...the kind that comes dry in a compressed brick. It's great for humidity and safe to feed on.
  • 07-14-2006, 09:48 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Substrate for my BP
    I use everyday newspapers for a few reasons.Its easy to clean up and its available as i get the paper everyday.If you think about it i recycle the paper lol.
  • 07-14-2006, 09:48 PM
    rmune0750
    Re: Substrate for my BP
    i just use plain old newspaper...nothing wrong w/ using it and its the easiest by far to clean up...just throw it out and put in new paper....but if ur going for a nice look in ur tank like a jungle or something then newspaper isnt gonna look very nice but it doesnt bother me...
  • 07-14-2006, 09:54 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Substrate for my BP
    For the last couple of years, I've been recommending newspaper ... I use the unprinted kind ... It may not be the prettiest thing to look at, but when it's dirty, you can't miss it ... and when it's clean, you know it's clean.

    The most important thing you can do for your snake (other than fresh water) is to keep his house clean ... newspaper is a great substrate because when you clean the cage you get everything "out" and it only takes a couple of seconds to do so ... other substrates that are commonly "spot cleaned" are never truely clean unless all of the bedding is removed and replaced which is costly and time consuming ... "spot cleaning" always leaves something behind ... you might not see it, but it's there.

    Newspaper is great for humidity too, just mist and go! ;)

    Over the last 25 years I've used just about every bedding you can imagine ... potting soil, sand, aspen, mulch, rept bark, carefresh, etc ... I keep over 250 snakes on newspaper now and I love it.

    -adam
  • 07-14-2006, 09:58 PM
    JenHarrison
    Re: Substrate for my BP
    Adam, where do you get unprinted newspaper from? I was using regular newspaper but they all started getting dirty bellies from the ink, so I switched to non-bleached Carefresh. I like it, but like you said, it's a bit time consuming to change it all out.
  • 07-14-2006, 10:01 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Substrate for my BP
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JenHarrison
    Adam, where do you get unprinted newspaper from? I was using regular newspaper but they all started getting dirty bellies from the ink, so I switched to non-bleached Carefresh. I like it, but like you said, it's a bit time consuming to change it all out.

    www.uline.com

    -adam
  • 07-14-2006, 10:03 PM
    jglass38
    Re: Substrate for my BP
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
    For the last couple of years, I've been recommending newspaper ... I use the unprinted kind ... It may not be the prettiest thing to look at, but when it's dirty, you can't miss it ... and when it's clean, you know it's clean.

    The most important thing you can do for your snake (other than fresh water) is to keep his house clean ... newspaper is a great substrate because when you clean the cage you get everything "out" and it only takes a couple of seconds to do so ... other substrates that are commonly "spot cleaned" are never truely clean unless all of the bedding is removed and replaced which is costly and time consuming ... "spot cleaning" always leaves something behind ... you might not see it, but it's there.

    Newspaper is great for humidity too, just mist and go! ;)

    Over the last 25 years I've used just about every bedding you can imagine ... potting soil, sand, aspen, mulch, rept bark, carefresh, etc ... I keep over 250 snakes on newspaper now and I love it.

    -adam

    He speaketh the truth!! I used newspaper but hated having newsprint all over my hands (and I disliked the smell). I changed to the brown corrugated kraft paper but that stuff really smells. I am loving the unprinted paper! It is awesome and so clean looking!
  • 07-14-2006, 10:05 PM
    kavmon
    Re: Substrate for my BP
    don't hate the brown kraft! :sabduel:



    vaughn
  • 07-14-2006, 10:08 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Substrate for my BP
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jglass38
    I am loving the unprinted paper! It is awesome and so clean looking!

    I was wondering how that worked out for you??

    Bet you wish you would have grabbed more now? :P

    -adam
  • 07-14-2006, 10:09 PM
    jglass38
    Re: Substrate for my BP
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kavmon
    don't hate the brown kraft! :sabduel:



    vaughn

    Hatin it brutha! I dont like the smell when it gets a little moist.
  • 07-14-2006, 10:10 PM
    jglass38
    Re: Substrate for my BP
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
    I was wondering how that worked out for you??

    Bet you wish you would have grabbed more now? :P

    -adam

    I thought I emailed you and told you! Jeez dude, do my emails go right to the spam folder? :)

    I wish I had grabbed more but i'm going to order some this week. I found a site with the 1600 sheet bundle for about $30!
  • 07-14-2006, 10:14 PM
    kavmon
    Re: Substrate for my BP
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jglass38
    Hatin it brutha! I dont like the smell when it gets a little moist.

    then replace it with a clean piece! ( that moistness is snake piss man) jeesh. :rolleyes: :rockon: i do get tired of cutting the rolls to size sometimes.


    vaughn
  • 07-14-2006, 10:15 PM
    jglass38
    Re: Substrate for my BP
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kavmon
    then replace it with a clean piece! ( that moistness is snake piss man) jeesh. :rolleyes: :rockon: i do get tired of cutting the rolls to size sometimes.


    vaughn

    Then spend a couple bucks more and get the precut, cheapskate! ;)

    The unprinted is niiiiice!
  • 07-14-2006, 10:18 PM
    kavmon
    Re: Substrate for my BP
    i'm too anal, i like them to be one piece and fit the tubs perfect! so i cut them and cut them and cut them. lol


    vaughn
  • 07-14-2006, 10:19 PM
    jglass38
    Re: Substrate for my BP
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kavmon
    i'm too anal, i like them to be one piece and fit the tubs perfect! so i cut them and cut them and cut them. lol


    vaughn

    Scary! :)
  • 07-15-2006, 12:49 AM
    Grim91Z
    Re: Substrate for my BP
    I've been using aspen. It looks nice, my ball seems to like it, and I've never had any problems with it. Cleaning it is never fun though, and there are times where I miss stuff then find it later. Also, changing it is not really fun (have to vacuum the stuff that I can't pick up) and costly. I wonder if there's a place around here that sells unprinted newspaper.

    BTW, would blank computer paper work?
  • 07-15-2006, 12:51 AM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Substrate for my BP
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kavmon
    so i cut them and cut them and cut them.

    vaughn

    It rubs the lotion on it's body.

    -adam
  • 07-15-2006, 01:12 AM
    Sputnik
    Re: Substrate for my BP
    Adam, is there are specific type of paper you order from that site?
  • 07-15-2006, 01:14 AM
    sweety314
    Re: Substrate for my BP
    If and when I get fed up with the aspen (not!) I'll contact our local paper and just buy the roll ends. :D Don't have to pay shipping, and there's plenty of "feet" left for only about $15. < I've already talked to 'em about it.....> :) But I use the aspen for the ratties, so it's no trouble using the shop vac and aspen for the snakies.
  • 07-15-2006, 01:16 AM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Substrate for my BP
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Sputnik
    Adam, is there are specific type of paper you order from that site?

    I use the 15x20 unprinted newsprint. A couple of sheets overlapped fit perfectly in my CB-70s and for my baby tubs, we just cut them on a paper cutter! :sweeet:

    -adam
  • 07-15-2006, 02:41 AM
    Sputnik
    Re: Substrate for my BP
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
    I use the 15x20 unprinted newsprint. A couple of sheets overlapped fit perfectly in my CB-70s and for my baby tubs, we just cut them on a paper cutter! :sweeet:

    -adam

    Thank you, much appreciated! :)
  • 07-15-2006, 05:56 AM
    Alice
    Re: Substrate for my BP
    Good mornng everyone. New forum member here. I was wondering if you still get good sheds using unprinted newsprint. I had switched from newspaper to mulch to help with sheds but with what I've been reading about mulch, I'm looking at switching again. I don't have the large number of snakes that some of you do - just 4 racks - so time to clean is not a real problem. I've been looking at sani chips but finding it here in Orlando is a pain.
  • 07-15-2006, 11:29 AM
    JenHarrison
    Re: Substrate for my BP
    Sheds are all dependent on humidity levels. I use Carefresh in my racks and when a snake turns blue, I give him or her a humid hide to use until the shedding process is finished. Basically it's a bowl or kitty litter pan with a few inches of very damp coconut husk substrate in the bottom. Works every time, they always shed in one piece. Plus I have a humidifier in the snake room. :)
  • 07-17-2006, 04:19 PM
    rmune0750
    Re: Substrate for my BP
    what does carefresh look like??

    ne one got a pic??
  • 07-17-2006, 04:21 PM
    jglass38
    Re: Substrate for my BP
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rmune0750
    what does carefresh look like??

    ne one got a pic??

    http://www.erodent.co.uk/Toys/CareFresh.jpg
  • 07-17-2006, 04:21 PM
    jglass38
    Re: Substrate for my BP
    It also comes in bright white and colors...
  • 07-17-2006, 04:25 PM
    JenHarrison
    Re: Substrate for my BP
    Jamie, do you know if the the dyes used in the colored versions would bleed when wet or if they'd be harmful to ball pythons in any way? I use the unbleached grey kind but have thought about using colors.
  • 07-17-2006, 04:27 PM
    jglass38
    Re: Substrate for my BP
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JenHarrison
    Jamie, do you know if the the dyes used in the colored versions would bleed when wet or if they'd be harmful to ball pythons in any way? I use the unbleached grey kind but have thought about using colors.

    I have never used the colored, only the white and grey. According to the company that makes it, it "Contains no contaminants, added inks or dyes, or chemicals, so it's safe for your pets!" . Your mileage may vary :)
  • 07-17-2006, 04:28 PM
    rmune0750
    Re: Substrate for my BP
    i dont like the look of the carefresh....does ne one have a pic of coconut substrate or w/e its called
  • 07-17-2006, 04:36 PM
    JenHarrison
    Re: Substrate for my BP
  • 07-17-2006, 04:45 PM
    rmune0750
    Re: Substrate for my BP
    thankd, i dont like it lol
  • 07-17-2006, 05:31 PM
    JenHarrison
    Re: Substrate for my BP
    What kind of "look" are you going for?
  • 07-17-2006, 05:33 PM
    rmune0750
    Re: Substrate for my BP
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JenHarrison
    What kind of "look" are you going for?

    nothing really but i saw some pic a while ago that i cant find ne where that was these white shredded things that looked really good, looked soft too...dont kno what it is
  • 07-17-2006, 05:37 PM
    JenHarrison
    Re: Substrate for my BP
  • 07-17-2006, 05:40 PM
    JLC
    Re: Substrate for my BP
    Or like this?

    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...atsucircle.jpg
    (Image borrowed from MedusaOwl's gallery...LOVE her snakies!)

    That is carefresh...same as the picture given earlier, but is their "white" version.
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