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  • 07-07-2006, 08:15 PM
    Ginevive
    Herp inventory!
    I thought this would be fun.. it's a post where ya can list your herp collection for everyone to see and acknowledge and go "wow" at :) I thought it'd be fun to see what everyone has; I know our Sigs have these listed, but you can't go writing novels in those.
    Here's mine.

    Ball Pythons:
    Ginger: pre-1999 female BP. Thought to be male until she laid eggs this year; turns out we had our genders mixed up in the pair we bred. Somewhat sporadic feeder, though she is the most massive of all three. A hefty gal, she is mellow as they come and enjoys watching TV on your lap.

    Bela: 2003 cbb, from Alex Hue. Very lovely lady. A tad shy, but comes out of her shell once you have her uncaged. Great feeding response; should make an awesome mama when she's ready this year. "Spotless" pattern (well, she has one spot in it.)

    LaVey: Male, thought to be a 2002. He is pretty fiesty and usually hisses when removed from his cage. Great feeder, daddy to our sole surviving egg incubating now. Was said to be het for ghost; has an axanthic look; just assume he's normal.

    Apache: 2004 BCI. Bought at a friend's pet shop as a near hatchling, he's now around 5'. Awesome feeder, pretty energetic out of cage, technically unsexed at the moment as it really doesn't matter, but we will figure that out later.

    Bene: 2002 albino Cranwell's horned frog. Fat, plump; the most boring pet ever as she spends most of her time buried in the substrate (this is normal.) Hysterical to watch her eat; enjoys rat fuzzies and feeder fish. Ignores crickets. Makes a cute squeak once in awhile if removed from dirt.

    2.2 African clawed frogs: the life of our 125g tank. They constantly fight over food (in a cute way, not a dangerous one) and are the most-loved by people who visit. Awesome animals; if you like fish but are bored by them, get these!

    And that concludes our herp pets. :)
  • 07-07-2006, 09:16 PM
    Pork Chops N' Corn Bread
    Re: Herp inventory!
    Boas
    Ruby-about 2 years old, almost 5' and 5 lbs. Just a nice colored female sold to me as het for pastel lmao. She eats XL rats or XSmall rabbits every about other week

    Topaz- Baby Pastel boa from Alex Hue. Born 4-12-06. Eating weanling mice and rat pups about every week.

    Geckos

    Linda-A normal female about 2-2 1/2 years old. Has laid 4 eggs so far in her life and none of them hatched. Shes got a nice size and since her male died she has been putting on more weight

    2 Unknown sex/named patternless leos- Got them from LLL reptiles about 3 months ago(maybe longer than that) and they are starting to grow faster now that they are housed seperately and get better indivual attention

    Savannah Monitor

    T or Testosterone, Hes my CBB sav male. At a bit over 2' he eats me out of the freezer!! lol 4-5 weanling/adult mice every other day and usually as many bugs as he will eat every day.
  • 07-07-2006, 09:19 PM
    jglass38
    Re: Herp inventory!
    I wont list them all separately but as of today I have 3 boas (BRB, Hog Island and Colombian) and lots o balls! Current count is somewhere around 25.
  • 07-07-2006, 09:54 PM
    mr~python
    Re: Herp inventory!
    zulu, male purchased as an adult at a pet store. i dont know how old he is. i've had him since April of 05. he's over 4 feet and weighs 1650 grams.

    vanessa, my first ball python. she's my little girl. she's 1228 grams and a little over 40 inches. i got her as a hatchling at the pet store she was probably ch but they told me she was cb. i've had her since july 04.

    uluru, my unknown sex ackie monitor. i got him from Frank Retes as a recent hatchling. ive had him for a month and a half and he's more then doubled in weight and has grown 1 1/2-2 inches.
  • 07-07-2006, 10:27 PM
    SatanicIntention
    Re: Herp inventory!
    Ball Pythons:
    *Amani: CBB, Late '04, 1575g, Don Hamper
    *Breth: CH probably, '03, 1300g, Rescue from a local guy who was moving to college and couldn't take her with him.
    *Arith: CBB, '05, 600g, bought at a show from Pat at Wildfire Reptiles
    *Unnamed Blackback girl: CH, '06, 150-175g, bought at a show
    *Unnamed busy patterned girl: CH, '06, 150g, bought at Petco on sale, one of the best eaters out of the bunch(why she is so chunky, apparently)
    *Unnamed Ringer male: '06 CH, 50g or so, bought in Austin, TX at Herpeton pet store
    Boa Constrictor:
    *Ruari: '02 or '03 male Common Boa, 6ft and some change, 20lbs or so.
    Colubrids:
    *Lorcan: '03 probably male Licorice Rat Snake(White Sided Black Rat), 500g, babysitting for a friend
    *Rowan: Male Hurricane motley anery cornsnake, '05, no idea on weight, got in as a trade from my friend
    *Rowena: Ghost female cornsnake, '05, no idea on weight, in trade with Rowan
    Amphibians:
    *Murphy: White's Tree Frog, '04, born August 10th, bought as a froglet when he was 1/2" long at an Austin show
  • 07-07-2006, 11:43 PM
    Tefoe
    Re: Herp inventory!
    Well..................Lets see.

    I currently have 11 ball pythons.5 males,6 females.
    Two of witch were my first and second snakes.Iv had them both about 11 years,they're male & female.
    I also have a gigantic 13 year old female that's around(maybe more)10 lbs.

    5 Boas.
    2 are green anacondas,a pair I'm hoping will breed next year.
    2 sand boas,the male is an anery.I'm hoping for babies next year from them too.And a big male 6 1/2 foot Colombian boa.
    1 Burmese.
    Shes about 13 feet and sweet as can be.Her name is zula btw.
    I rock python.
    A female that dose not like coming out of her cage!
    1 amethystine python.
    Shes about 7 feet and beautiful!

    And then there's all my culubrids.5 Rat snakes,
    2 bull snakes.1 FL king.1 Jelisco milk snake..I think thats it.:)
  • 07-07-2006, 11:58 PM
    Shelby
    Re: Herp inventory!
    Tefoe - I'd love to see pics of your collection! Especially the condas and the amethystine.

    As for mine..

    Pythons:
    0.1 Jungle Carpet Python - Fern - 2.5-3'
    1.0 Ball Python - Kamau - 3'
    1.1 Blood Pythons - Meatball & Habanera both over 4'
    1.0 Granite Burmese Python - Harry - 6'

    Boas:
    1.0 Kenyan Sand Boa - George - about 1.5'
    1.0 Anery Kenyan Sand Boa - Fred - about 1.5'
    0.1 Hog Island Boa - Diva - 6'
    0.1 Roughscale Sand Boa - Demeter - 2'
    0.1 Yellow Anaconda - Rusalka - 4.5'
    2.0 Granite Yellow Anaconda - Lurch 2.5' & Mortimer 6'
    1.1 Dumerils Boa - Donovan 4.5' & Bellatrix 7'4"
    1.2 Surinam Redtail Boa - Rowan 5' Julinar 3' & Ophelia 7'

    Colubrids:
    0.1 Dekay Snake - 1' unnamed
    0.1 Speckled Kingsnake - Mote - 3'
    2.1 California Kingsnakes - Bodacious albino 3', Beauregard albino stripe 4.5' & Gretchen 4'
    0.1 Mexican Black Kingsnake - Lotus - 2'
    0.1 Het Hypo Honduran Milksnake - Mehitabel - 1'
    1.0 Albino Nelson's Milksnake - Skittle - 1'
    1.0 Greyband Kingsnake - Nikolai - 1'

    Other Herp
    0.0.1 Tiger Salamander
    0.0.1 White's Tree Frog
    0.1 Leopard Gecko
  • 07-08-2006, 12:30 AM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Herp inventory!
    250+ balls ... I'm hatching about a clutch every couple of days, so the number is growing. ;)

    -adam
  • 07-08-2006, 10:32 AM
    Mr. Morph
    Re: Herp inventory!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
    250+ balls ... I'm hatching about a clutch every couple of days, so the number is growing. ;)

    -adam

    Show Off


    j/k

    Ball Pythons

    1.0 Pastel Jungle ( 235 grams )
    0.4 Normal females ( 1500, 550,500,450 grams )
  • 07-08-2006, 11:39 AM
    muddoc
    Re: Herp inventory!
    125 Ball pythons(32 males, and the rest females), and 28 eggs still incubating.
    4 Nicuraguan Boa Females
    1 Candy Cane Female Corn
    1 Bloodred het Anery B Female Cron
  • 07-08-2006, 12:10 PM
    JLC
    Re: Herp inventory!
    Awwww...I have such a short little list....for now!


    1.0 Bearded Dragon named Shaggy. He's named after the Scooby Doo character because he likes to eat just about anything you put in front of him. (Although I've only ever offered him food that's good for him! LOL) He recognizes the word "Crickets" and if you walk into the room and tell him you have crickets for him, he stands up taller and starts cocking his head from side to side. He WUVS his crix!

    1.0 Cape Gophersnake named Caesar. Our very first reptile. We wanted a ball python, but when we were finally ready to buy our first snake, the petstore didn't have any at the time, and we were not yet savvy enough to realize we would have done much better ordering off the Internet anyhow. But Caesar is a gorgeous little snake and a joy to handle and care for. And not something you see in people's collections very often. No regrets buying him at all! Might even get him a girlfriend...someday.

    0.1 100% het-caramel Ball Python named Kisasa. Due to "snake issues" with the hubby, it was a long time before I finally got my BP. But when I did, I had some extra spending money, so I went ahead and decided to get a head start on my breeding dreams of the future. Those dreams are still years away, but little Kisasa will be so ready for them when the time finally comes! Her name means Tomorrow in Zulu.
  • 07-08-2006, 12:13 PM
    Evan Jamison
    Re: Herp inventory!
    -about 110 BPs (28 males, the rest females) with more hatching this season.

    -1.0 stillwater hypo bullsnakes.
    -1.2 corns (40+ eggs incubating)
    -1.0 jungle carpet
    -0.1 Bci

    That's about it, for now.......:D

    -Evan
  • 07-08-2006, 12:29 PM
    xdeus
    Re: Herp inventory!
    15 Balls: 12 Ladies, 3 Gents. I have two that have oodles of personality including a partially blind 21 year old lady and my pastel male that seems to forget Balls are supposed to be timid. Then there's the matriarch of the bunch that lets you know when she's not happy (ouch).

    1 Male BCI that must be on steroids. He weighed 78 grams last April, and is now well over 2000.

    1 GTP that is my scariest snake at night and shyest snake during the day.

    1.1 Black Milks that are finally starting to calm down after a year, although
    they still like to do that colubrid thrashing.

    and 1 albino corn that we are fostering over the Summer.
  • 07-08-2006, 12:30 PM
    Lioness
    Re: Herp inventory!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JLC
    Awwww...I have such a short little list....for now!

    Dont worry.. I've outdone you. :oops:

    1 BP - Fendi runt of her clutch.. but the most inquisitive by far. She was hatched last Auguast..so she's about a year old.. she's grown alot since being with me.. so hopefully the progress progresses..lol

    1 Water Dragon - Eden her nails kill me. :zerb: ...other than that she's one happy fat little girl, for sure! i've had her since Dec. 05. Got her at a local herp show. Currently have her in a 40gal tank.. but i NEED to upgrade her to something bigger asap! (Any ideas on good enclosures?)

    1 Rose Hair Tarantula - Chester The Molester "Molester"..cus he has 8 creepy crawly legs that. Anyway.. I got him/her/it for now.. earlier this year. Definitely out of interest and mostly curiosity of the species.. I just love watching them be them.
  • 07-08-2006, 12:30 PM
    Wild Bill
    Re: Herp inventory!
    51 ball pythons (I think, LOL) plus 8 eggs incubating
    20 boas (16 babies, soon to leave)
  • 07-08-2006, 01:12 PM
    Blu Mongoose
    Re: Herp inventory!
    1 ball -Reverend Bob
    1 yellow foot tort.
    1 russian tort.
    1 corn
    1 anole
    2 whites frogs
    1 chubby frog
    1 pacman with bad temper
  • 07-08-2006, 01:35 PM
    Ginevive
    Re: Herp inventory!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Blu Mongoose
    1 pacman with bad temper

    lol; they have the worst tempers, don't they? We always said that if ours was human, he'd be a short, fat, bald guy who's always mad.
  • 07-09-2006, 02:33 PM
    Pork Chops N' Corn Bread
    Re: Herp inventory!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ginevive
    lol; they have the worst tempers, don't they? We always said that if ours was human, he'd be a short, fat, bald guy who's always mad.

    wierd, mines shy and hates food
  • 07-09-2006, 07:11 PM
    Chanarita
    Re: Herp inventory!
    1 Ball Python-Junior- A rescue from a friend who couldn't keep her.She had bought Junior for her boyfriend, and when christmas break came around, he had to find a temp. home (he lived in a Dorm). They broke up that x-mas, he didn't want the snake, and she couldn't keep it. Found out he was a she when I tookher to the vet in April. She is about a year old.

    1 Sinaloan Milk Snake-Monty-My boyfriends pet snake. Just a little tiny sweetie, only about 6 months old. We bought him at this small breeder store in downtown. Red white a black, he sheds ALL THE TIME.

    1 Corn Snake(Formerly the Red Rat Snake)-Xander- I found this snake outside of an old friends apartment..I put him in a printer paper box, and hysterically called my good friend to see if he could take it for the night, until the apartments found the owner. They never did, so I gave it to him. We found out He is a She also, about 10 years old, 4' long. The nicest snake in the entire world.
  • 07-09-2006, 07:17 PM
    ddbjdealer
    Re: Herp inventory!
    5.23 Ball Pythons with a bunch on the way sometime after Daytona.
  • 07-09-2006, 07:39 PM
    frankykeno
    Re: Herp inventory!
    Ohhh you have Black Milksnakes Lawrence! Any idea when they will breed and you'll have some babies available. My husband Mike would like a Black Milk at some point as he's fascinated with the color change they do through and we've been told they are the biggest of the Milks. We're in no rush to own one but would like to do our "shopping" with the members of BPNet. :) (so that's a Black Milk, a Leucy Texas Rat and a VBB all from breeding from BPNet members and gosh knows how many BP's here or there...oh and Sevie the BCI from Lynn....yayyyyyyy I love this place!) You have a Candy Cane corn Tim. Okay you two...I want some pics in the colubrid forums! LOL

    Okay our list as of today:

    Severus - an 05 male BCI, adopted recently from Lynn here on BPNet by our oldest son Lucas - absolutely gorgeous little male with a super clean pattern and the typical puppy dog friendly Columbian personality.

    Emi - an 05 female Albino Nelson's Milksnake - purchased from Ken Wares of Michigan who bred her - purchased by our younger daughter Beth - a drop dead WOW kind of snake who looks like someone colored on her with dayglo markers - is not nippy or prone to musking and snarfs down her fuzzy mice like they are going out of style - Beth is on the hunt for a 100% het for albino male so one day Emi can be bred.

    Malachi - an 05 100% het for albino male Ball Python - bred by Adam of 8BallPythons - Mal is an amazing strapping big male and will breed this coming season for the first time - we will be holding back all of his possible het daughters to eventually prove them out. His name means "my angel".

    Brannagh - an adult normal female BP of unknown age but estimated to be 3 years old or so - found dumped off in a local pet store and highly aggressive - we worked hard with her and she's now a big, gorgeous BP who is finally safe to handle - she is currently under a breeding contract with Eugene from BPNet. Her name means "dark beauty".

    Orlah - female normal BP - also dumped off at the same pet store but from a different owner (we really lucked out walking in just after they both were put up for sale) - probably the sweetest tempered BP around - also unknown age but estimated to be 3 years old or so - she's a bit smaller than Brannagh but not by much - she carries a huge dorsal scar from being exposed to an unprotected hot bulb (or so the vet surmises) but it doesn't bother her - she recently laid 5 eggs and is also under breeding contract with Eugene. Her name means "golden princess".

    Saorise - a WC adult normal female of unknown age - she carries a scar on her side likely from her capture - she came to us after a number of other owners could not get her to eat in captivity - with a lot of work and the support of BPNet and Adam Wysocki's great advice we got her eating and to accept human handling - she did fast over the winter but is eating again now and gaining weight - she came in to us at 620 grams which was way way underweight but is now over 1100 and though still too thin it's getting there. She seems particularily attached to Mike and he to her. She will be bred to Malachi this fall if she gains sufficient weight to consider her. Her name means "freedom and liberty".

    Kyna - reported to be a late 03 - female captive born normal BP that we adopted after her original owners realized they did not know enough about BP's to properly care for her - she was not abused but was underfed and was pretty small for an 18 month old BP when we got her - with proper food she quickly caught up and is now over 1100 grams and gaining steadily. She unfortunately cares scars from a cat falling through the mesh lid of her enclosure when she was a baby snake. She will hopefully breed for us this coming fall. Her name means "love and affection".

    Rionach - sold to us as an early 05 but likely is a late 04 due to her size at that time - a normal female BP that was a Mother's Day present for me last year from Mike and the kids - our most spoiled BP (she'll only eat rats of an exact size...the bratling!). Her name means "queenlike".

    Muirne - an 06 normal female BP that I bought for Mike for Father's Day this year - our only reduced pattern female at this point - a bit of a slow start on eating but she's doing beautifully now. Her name means "high spirited".
  • 07-09-2006, 10:12 PM
    jknudson
    Re: Herp inventory!
    Ball Pythons
    1.1.1 Normal
    1.0 100% Het Hypo
    0.1 50% Possible Het Albino

    Adult Leopard Geckos
    1.0 Bell Albino Leo
    0.1 Tremper Albino Leo
    1.1 DH LV Albino/Blazing Blizzard
    0.2 Normals

    Coming soon: Albino, and normal rescues.

    Babies
    0.0.3 Normals
    0.1 Eclipse Blizzard
    0.1.1 LV albino

    Tortoise
    0.0.1 Redfoot Tortoise

    Bearded Dragons:
    0.0.1 Red/Gold
    1.1 Adults (Told they were Sanfired Reds) (coming soon from neighbor.)

    I hope soon to be adding more caging for future geckos including cresteds, gargoyles, nephurus, diplodactylus sp. :)
  • 07-09-2006, 10:22 PM
    Aric
    Re: Herp inventory!
    3.3.1 Ball pythons plus eggs incubating
    1.1.0 Andean Milksnakes (should be ready to breed this season)
    0.1.0 Motley Cornsnake
    0.1.0 Diamond x Jungle Carpet python
    1.0 Bearded Dragon
    0.0.1 Cali King
    Rescues
    1.0 Leopard Gecko
    0.1 Northern Blue Tongue Skink
    0.0.2 African Clawed Frogs

    +Many more on the way :rockon:
  • 07-10-2006, 09:47 AM
    ssscales
    Re: Herp inventory!
    Lets see if I can remember all of them:

    Adults, sub adults and yearling Boas

    2.4 Albinos

    3.2 DH Sunglows

    3.0 Salmons

    2.1 Hypos

    1.0 DH Ghost

    1.2 Hypo Pastels

    1.2 Anery 66% Het Albino

    0.3 Pastels

    0.2 Classics

    0.2 Hog Island Boas

    1.0 Motley

    14.18 = 32, that's about right.


    Baby Boas
    About 19 babies to go, out of the 48 that were born April/May, it's been a slow year. This season we should have 9-10 pairs going at it and expecting anywhere from 100-250 baby boas next year between March/July. Hopefully we'll be holding back a few Sunglows, Ghosts, couple Salmons and possibly (crossing fingers) a few Snows and Het Snow boas.


    Ball Pythons
    1.0 Pastel

    0.10 Normals
    Hoping to add at least 1.0 Spider by year end.:)
  • 07-10-2006, 12:13 PM
    fish21
    Re: Herp inventory!
    Boas
    Adults
    1.0 Albino Male
    3.0 Proable Super Salmons
    0.4 100% Het Albino
    0.1 66%het Albino And Snow.
    0.3 Normal Females
    0.1 Hog Island
    0.2 Hypo
    Neos
    0.3 Hypos
    About 20 Boas

    1.0 Ball Python

    1.1 Bearded Dragons 15 BABIES ABOUT TO HATCH ANY DAY.

    0.2 Red Eared Slider Turtles

    ?.? Savannaha Monitor

    1.0 Bluebar Ambalobe Panther Chamelion

    15 ?.? Dwarf African Frogs.

    02 Large Tropical Fish Tanks

    Back On The Farm 1 Horse
  • 07-10-2006, 12:37 PM
    cassandra
    Re: Herp inventory!
    0.1 ball python, Cleo
    Purchased from PetCo, she's been an angel and is definitely Daddy's girl. Weighed 120g or so in January, she's now over 400 and has grown over a foot in length. Mouse, rat, dead, alive, f/t...she doesn't care...just gimme!

    0.1 surinam boa, Carmen
    Purchased from LLL, she's been my "problem child" with regurge issues, mites, little to no weight gain and recently, respiratory infection (which I think is cleared up, we have a vet appointment checkup tomorrow). But she's beautiful and I can't wait for her to chill out, eat and get bigger. While I'm flattered her picture won the HOTM, she thinks "well of course it was going to win...duh...look at me!" So conceited. =) I'm just glad we're done with shots...=P
  • 07-19-2006, 08:06 PM
    jessie_k_pythons
    Re: Herp inventory!
    well lets see here... (each one of my reptiles are named after a SubWoofer.)

    Assission A.K.A. Baby.
    he is a 04 or 05 male 900+ gr at almost 4 feet now, from a privite breeder in WV. He enjoys only live dark colored mice, inverting his stuff on my husband (yes he did it to him again) and tearing apart his cage. He is a big mamas boy. anything that scars him he come high tailing it to me. dont know why...

    Distroyer A.K.A Lady
    she is 05 female at almost 1,000gr at hitting 4 feet + from Prehistoric pets in Santa Anna CA. The store swears that she is a YB but they are not fooling me.
    she enjoys bugging people on MySpace, and eating what ever gets in to her cage. She is a VERY BIG mamas girl and trys everything she can to curl around my neck at watch the screen as i type. she is verry agressive twards the kitten. the cat walks by and I hear this hiss/growl come from her as she is watching the cat. (no the two have never met face to face nor will they ever... i dnt trust the cat)

    Havoc AKA Angel.
    she is an 06 ch female from Angols Africa and bought from Ben Siegel Reptiles. she was shy but she is working out of it like a champ. I really dont know much about her yet because she has only been with me for a short time.

    Brama AKA Sweetie & Titon AKA Classy.
    2 06 females from a privite breeder here in Agusta. they are both some what picky about the color of there meals but only time will tell if I can get them to eat. the count down begens...

    I'm not counting the male pastel as he has not arived yet and no one is answering there phone...
  • 07-19-2006, 08:38 PM
    Grim91Z
    Re: Herp inventory!
    Not much for me, but here it goes:
    0.0.1 Ball Python (Nespithe) - Purchased in Feb 2006 when it was a baby, I'm assuming it's 8-12 months old. 22" long as of last week. Easily startled but LOVES to explore.
    0.0.1 Colombian Red Tail Boa (Therion) - Purchased last week as a baby. Probably 2-4 months old. 20" long.
    0.0.1 Chilean rose Tarantula (Placid) - Purchased last week, as well. 3.2" legspan. Age unknown. Very calm, but feisty after feedings.
  • 07-20-2006, 09:25 AM
    cueball
    Re: Herp inventory!
    I have a small group of 25 ball pythons. They are all different types including hypo, albino, het pied, img, fire and a random bunch of silly ones.


    When I was young and spry I had a collection of ~400 herps of all different varieties. While working at a reptile store for 6 years I had access to all sorts of neat ones and would rotate them often. Those where the days!!!
  • 07-20-2006, 09:39 AM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Herp inventory!
    I am a small timer

    Orpheus: he is a CB 04 hatchling no clue on weight or length. But he like to knock things off the desk when i let him play there.

    Odin: He I think is an 05 CB, Het pied that is coming Saturday weight is right around 800 grams (Thanks Daniel)

    Spot: My first born. An 03 CB Petsmart Leopard Gecko. He's the moma's boy.
  • 07-20-2006, 07:34 PM
    WeoStan
    Re: Herp inventory!
    I have 6 now with 2 to get at Daytona from Adam Wysocki, all ball pythons.
    *Beegee* '05 female het albino from Peter Kahl
    *Scout* '05 male het albino " "

    *Tiger* female normal '06 from Brain Cox
    *Striker* male " " So named because nothing comes straight at his head without a strike.

    *Weezie* ? adult wc So named for the RI it had when I rescued it from the bad pet store.
    *Nova* '06 mormal female as told by the person that could not seem to get rid of mites that I got her from.

    As for the 2 I am getting from Adam, a male het. pied and a female SPIDER:spid0r:.:banana:
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