PETA/peta2 Rant

I hope I don't start a flame war with this but I gotta share with other snake-type people.

Monday night I went to see Nine Inch Nails in concert (killer show BTW), and there were the obligatory radio-station and social-group tents along the entry to the venue.

While standing in line to look at overpriced black T-shirts, a young lady came up and asked my group if we had "signed the petion yet?". Her T-shirt said www.peta2.com on it. It took me a few seconds to figure out it was People For The Ethical Treatment Of Animals. I asked "what is the petition about" (good english on my part) and was told "to protect animals".

My big issue with PETA is that one of their their eventual goals (according to their spokeswoman/president) is to stop humans from "owning" animals. Essentially, they find "keeping" pets unethical.

I declined to sign the petition "because I have and love pets", this confused the young lady and then asked what kind of pets. My answer was "exotics, including snakes".

She then proclaimed that "people shouldn't be allowed to keep exotic animals". -- That really got me warmed up.

After about 30 seconds of asking her about the things uncovered by Showtime's Bulls---! show (penn and teller) and asking if she supported PETAs method of killing healthy cats and dogs versus putting them up for adoption she explained that killing them was best for them. This really honked off the two dedicated dog/cat resucers in my group.

Not sure if I'm fishing for comments, or just needed to vent.

PETA is a PITA....and that's about as close as I can come in this forum to expressing my opinion about them. :banned1:

Thanks for posting. In my opinion:

I am a member of PETA. I fully support the "People Eating Tasty Animals" group.

What a crock of ****. If it wasn't for people owning pets, the world would be over run with animals. I've seen the Penn & Teller episode agains PETA...and they're right. so right...i would blow up on someone who asked me to sign a stupid petition like that. Good job on the refusal. And thanks.

edit: Every time i hear "PETA" and something they've done....it makes my tummy go "grrrrrrr i want a steak...a fat juicy steak"

I once got approached by a PETA person...I told her I couldn't sign it because I keep snakes and feed them live rodents on a weekly basis. She just walked away immediately. It was awesome. Probably doesn't help our cause as keepers to have that kind of attitude, but sometimes you just have to come back at them as tough as they come at you.

Yes, yes and yes to what you guys said. The Penn and Teller expose on PETA is very enlightening.

We're having juicy steak tonight! Mmm!

OT: Hey Mike, I'm coming home to Indianapolis to visit my mom later this month. Do you have any recommendations for cool reptile shops to visit in Indy? =)

:cens0r: Hippies! :fishslap: :groinkick :fork: :matrixfig :explosion :sabduel: :twisted:

I'm a big fan of PETA (People for the Eating of Tasty animals) and believe there is a place for all Gods animals.... right next to my mash potatoes. I think that yes people should be held responsable for mistreating the animals they care for. But lets face it 99.999995 % of captive critters have it better than the homeless population in our nation. Most captive animals are provided 3 hots and a cot 365 24/7 and medical care.

Frankly(oops, not a pun) I do not wish to start a debate on any of the hot topics brought up in this thread so far.
But, caring for people is a totally seperate thing from caring for animals. Not that it is more important or less. Would you have everyone make sure that every human is fed and clothed before they saw to the abused, starving animal in the front yard next door? That is why there are organizations for both.
If an organization is for animals, to say that they should concentrate on helping people is totally wrong. If they wanted to help homeless people then they would be doing that instead.
That said, PETA is a pita, and have way too extreme views. Would they have domestic dogs, domestic cats, domestic cows, etc go extinct by killing them all off? A domestic dog cannot survive as a wild animal. At best it will go feral, resulting in needless suffering on its part until someone has to kill it defending themselves.
I keep pets, to the best of my ability and truely believe that if you cannot take proper care of a animal, exotic or domestic, then you either find it a good home that can take care of it, turn it over to an organization that can find it a home and care for it, or have it humanely euthanized. My feeder rats have better lives than some pet dogs.
Final word from me would be please don't start an abortion debate, nor a religious one.
Wolfy

Many, many years ago I recall PETA going to a dog show and getting into peoples vehicles and turning all the dogs loose, FOR WHAT, SO THEY COULD DIE ON THE HIGHWAY!!! Claimed crates were cruel. Funny, my dogs consider their crates personal space the same way we feel about our bedrooms. My dogs attempt to open their crates themselves to get IN if I'm too slow.


Here ya go PETA:zerb: :cens0r:

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Originally Posted by nathanledet

I am a member of PETA. I fully support the "People Eating Tasty Animals" group.

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LOL!!

Do you have this shirt?? Do you wear it?

If not I will bring you one when you let me crash at your place in a few weeks ;)

I remove my comments that may in hind sight been alittle hastly said

The bottom line is the PEOPLE FOR THE ETHICAL TREATMENT of ANIMALS do not view captivity as ethical. Everyone on this sight disagrees or else you wouldn't own pets. True there are some Animals that I believe are'nt pets. I.E Lions, ect. PETA has done wonderfull things to see that people care for thier animals as they should be. It has kept animals for being mistreated and the people that have to pay the price. But when they start telling me what I can and can't keep as a pet. thats where it steps on my toes. I was only making referance to the abortation and religion thing. Please forgive

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Originally Posted by cassandra

OT: Hey Mike, I'm coming home to Indianapolis to visit my mom later this month. Do you have any recommendations for cool reptile shops to visit in Indy? =)

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Cassandra, there aren't too many but the ones I frequent are:

Pet Jungle - Michigan Road and 106th street (technically Carmel, IN).
They have many snakes, lizards, T's, live fish, and small mamalls. They have a decent "pile" of large snakes on display in the front window. Ask to see "Chilli" the Kinkajoo. They may have baby skunks in again soon.

Safari in Pets - on Rockville Road (aka 136 in Avon, IN)
They have a smaller selection of snakes and reptiles, more small mamalls, and puppy/kittens.

Specks - on Rockville Road in Avon, IN
Very few snakes, more lizards and live fish.

I'm in at least one of these 3 every week picking up something.

ha. no i don't have the shirt. i want one tho.

hey...is it illegal to destroy a petition? I'll let you wonder what i'd do if i was asked to sign a PETA Petition....freedom of speech right?

I have one of those shirts and one that says

I love cats but I can never eat a whole on myself..

I do love cats I own one so no one think I am really a cat hater its just a funny shirt.. LOL

Thanks Mike! Mom lives up near Keystone, so the Avon stores might be a bit of a hike, but we may have to check out the store in Carmel...if only to annoy Rick (drives him nuts that American tend to pronounce "car-a-mel" as "car-mel"...so to take him to a town called "Carmel" would rock). =D

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

I have one of those shirts and one that says

I love cats but I can never eat a whole on myself..

I do love cats I own one so no one think I am really a cat hater its just a funny shirt.. LOL

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Hehe, I keep asking Rick, mostly as a joke, if I can get a kitten. He always replies "you haven't eaten the first two yet".

Hey man I hear their great with soy sauce and some fried rice

*looks at my new kitty*

:wuv:



here's how i view this: i've seen elderly people who are so lonely, and then you bring a cat or dog into their life and they get a renewed sense of living! same with handicapped people...

how could anyone, anywhere deny the love you can see in a person's face when they are loving their pet?

PETA - nope, not for me!

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Originally Posted by recycling goddess

i've seen elderly people who are so lonely, and then you bring a cat or dog into their life and they get a renewed sense of living! same with handicapped people...

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Oh yeah. My girlfriend once trained a dog for the specific purpose of helping people in need.

I don't remember what the compnay is called, but she got a pup...trained it, and now that dog is helping a man in a wheelchair so the man can be more independent. PETA would argue, "well that's just work for the dog. it's cruel"

SHUT UP. If that dog could talk, i guarantee you it would say "I love my job and I wouldn't trade it for anything". That dog is smart and well trained. every time you give a command, it wags its tail which means he's HAAAAAAAAAPPY!!

Now, If PETA would help support groups such as the SPCA...I would support them. I love watching Animal Planet...and I love watching these cops go in and cease animals that are in very poor health and almost dead...and then arrest the *******s who are responsible for the animals condition.

i totally agree!

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Now, If PETA would help support groups such as the SPCA...I would support them. I love watching Animal Planet...and I love watching these cops go in and cease animals that are in very poor health and almost dead...and then arrest the *******s who are responsible for the animals condition.

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Agree 100%. PETA and SPCA are worlds apart when it comes to the positive benefits they bring to animals across our nation.

If PETA would spend a fraction of what they spend on Lobbying on actually helping animals, they might actually help animals instead of trying to take away the rights of individuals.

i wonder though... why the idea was created in the first place. who sat down and hated pets so much they wanted to stop everyone from enjoying their presence in their own lives... hmmmmm

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Originally Posted by JLC

Agree 100%. PETA and SPCA are worlds apart when it comes to the positive benefits they bring to animals across our nation.

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Actually, the SPCA isn't that great either. Check out this article about their views on exotic animals. For some reason they lumped all exotic animals together whether it's a monkey, lion, or cornsnake. :zerb:

Well PETA first started when the medical, movie and cosmetic industry was useing animals in a manner other than directed. And really hurting alot of animals. It help a ton of animals. However now that they have won that fight it seems like they are always out looking for the next one. And if you can't find a fight start one

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

I have one of those shirts and one that says

I love cats but I can never eat a whole on myself..

I do love cats I own one so no one think I am really a cat hater its just a funny shirt.. LOL

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oh my gawd! thats gotta be the bestest shirt! I love my cat dearly, heck more than i love some of my own family! i'd still wear it.

my stand on peta.....
dont care all that much. what little bit I can contribute to local shelters I do because I believe every living thing deserves a chance. Rather its my pet, somenones ex-pet, or a blind one eared aardvark in the wild.(do they even have ears?) Do i believe I need to shove my views down other peoples throat? No. what gets me bye everyday is knowing Im doing what is right/logical to me. Thats why people who badger you about your views or your reasons for not signing there pettion get punched in the face or get their clipboard thrown into oncoming traffic.

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Originally Posted by recycling goddess

i wonder though... why the idea was created in the first place. who sat down and hated pets so much they wanted to stop everyone from enjoying their presence in their own lives... hmmmmm

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hippees! they mess everything up! lol just kidding

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Originally Posted by 4Khan

hippees! they mess everything up! lol just kidding

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Ok cartman :P

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Perhaps PETA was started with the best of intentions, perhaps not. Whatever was meant to be it's certainly not an organization I spend one minute on. When they have employees arrested for dumping dog carcasses in private garbage dumpsters (not their own dumpsters of course...wouldn't want that now would we), well I just have to write off folks like that.

Fact is PETA is about fanatics and fanatics are always dangerous no matter what cause they've attached themselves to. I just never have understood blind obedience or focusing in like that on something and losing one's common sense completely. I've always figured there must be something critical missing in your life if you have to find something to get fanatical about to the point of intruding on some else's freedoms.

I'm going to be very nice on this one. I will only say this and shut up.

They have the whole "one bad apple spoils the whole bunch" attitude, they see one sheep getting killed for there wool and feel that every body else is killing sheep. Alpaca should be shorn for there fiber, if not they can over heat in hotter parts of the world. They feel that this is cruel. They truly need to get a clue on life, the forces of nature and the whole "Survival of the Fittest”.

A snake needs to eat. I would love to see them try to force feed or even try to get a snake to eat a salad.

Or take all the dogs and cats in the world that are pets, let them go and see what happens to there “beautiful animal friends”, there little friends would all be eaten. If they did get there way we would all be wearing plastic as clothing, eating our super-sized tofu burger with processed cheese. And living a dull and boring life.

Ok here is a kicker for them. Plants: A living viable creature. To my understanding if you cut a plant it will weep sap or a form of liquid to create a scab like structure over the wound. If cut badly enough it too will die.

It might not feel pain in the way an animal with a brain could but a plant can get stressed, sick, and I think in a way it too can feel pain.
They should think next time before they just slice open that big ripe melon, and ask themselves “could I possibly be abusing this living form?”

I love a good salad, and I really loves me a good thick rare stake.
But PETA really needs to get a clue.
I'm done now.

Just another cult that brainwashes people who originally had good intentions, into mindless automatons who follow an illogical and uninformed agenda.
The most ludicrous thing I have herd regarding them, is how they say your pet dog/cat should eat a VEGETARIAN diet... there are not words enough for me to tell ya what I think o' that!

My favorite PETA/Vegetarian slogan:


"For every animal you don't eat, I'm going to eat three!"
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Oh, and I love animal crackers, best anti-peta product ever!

-Jason

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Originally Posted by jessie_k_pythons

I'm going to be very nice on this one. I will only say this and shut up.

They have the whole "one bad apple spoils the whole bunch" attitude, they see one sheep getting killed for there wool and feel that every body else is killing sheep. Alpaca should be shorn for there fiber, if not they can over heat in hotter parts of the world. They feel that this is cruel. They truly need to get a clue on life, the forces of nature and the whole "Survival of the Fittest”.

A snake needs to eat. I would love to see them try to force feed or even try to get a snake to eat a salad.

Or take all the dogs and cats in the world that are pets, let them go and see what happens to there “beautiful animal friends”, there little friends would all be eaten. If they did get there way we would all be wearing plastic as clothing, eating our super-sized tofu burger with processed cheese. And living a dull and boring life.

Ok here is a kicker for them. Plants: A living viable creature. To my understanding if you cut a plant it will weep sap or a form of liquid to create a scab like structure over the wound. If cut badly enough it too will die.

It might not feel pain in the way an animal with a brain could but a plant can get stressed, sick, and I think in a way it too can feel pain.
They should think next time before they just slice open that big ripe melon, and ask themselves “could I possibly be abusing this living form?”

I love a good salad, and I really loves me a good thick rare stake.
But PETA really needs to get a clue.
I'm done now.

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My snakes love to eat lettuce; is this normal?

Ive bee approached by these PETA idiots numerous times at the boat ramp. The ramble on that because we fish we are killing the fish, and our [fisherman's] boats destroy the earth with pollution. Its a load of garbage. We were launching the boat in a few months ago and 4 of those people came up to us trying to pass on flyers they said "Your daddy is a muderer" -a campain to stop fishing because they say fish feel in pain whent hey bite the hook.

Ive seen them dump a guy's catch over the end of the pier when the guy went bAck to the boat for his knife. I truley cant stand them.

One weekend we were fishing and pulled the boat in and they friggin came up to me yelling "because you drive that boat, you set a bad example for other kids." WTF kinda BS is that?
They got on me about my motor [Yamaha 250 vmax 2-stroke] that it pollutes and all that garbage. I left the dock all the way trimmed up and drenched them with about 300 gallons of water when I gunned it.:D

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Originally Posted by Ginevive

My snakes love to eat lettuce; is this normal?

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Depends... Iceberg or Romaine?

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Originally Posted by xdeus

Depends... Iceberg or Romaine?

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Romaine..

Italian or Ranch?

Peta is ridiculou's , I love me a steak right about now.Outback sound's good.How about every single living organism stop eating other living oranism's what would that do. Peta do you think the bacteria and worm's would not eat our remain's includeing our furry friend's.This is the way it was suppose to be , let's go Disney on them remember lion king.Let's start singing the Circle of life. They are dumb a's

I grew up on a dairy farm and steak, pork chops, roast or a chicken / pheasant / venison was a regular Sunday dinner meal. I can understand the concern and fight against puppy mills, and the veal farms, but come on!!! Do they REAAAALLY think some stock contractor, dairyman or chkn rancher is going to neglect and abuse his animals???!?!!!!!!! NWIH!!!! Those animals are the livelihood of that person. They're going to be cared for or that farmer/rancher and his family is going to starve.


PETA and one of their lunatic offshoots released all the minks at the OSU mink farm....Uhhhh, can U say WEASELS????? Man!! The animal/small pet/family chicken/turkey damages around here were horrendous....PLUS some of the mink became road kill or ended up w/rabies. And they were just "freeing the poor mink from captivity and neglect". Yes, they're wild, but most if not all had been CBB.

Personally??? I'd looooooove to live as my cats, rats, snakes, dog, etc. Warm house, regular vet care, regular (if sometimes over) feedings, soft bed, and lots of WUUUUUUUUUUUVIN'S :love:. SPOILED ROTTEN and loved, groomed, petted every day. Stripe finally died of nothing but old age and her body shutting down. I hope < I > can die as happily!

To quote a fav book....PETA members are nothing more "than a total waste of human protoplasm" *%*%&$&$&&$%&%&* :cens0r:

RuLyn