Albino's?

I know morphs would be more, but what about albinos? What would be the average price range? Like I got my normal for $29. Not an exact, but an average. And where?

you might want to look on kingsnake.com to get an idea of price range and to see who has them available. of course there are many good breeders that you may not see advertising there, but you can at least get a feel for things by looking around there.

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Originally Posted by Gizm0BP

I know morphs would be more, but what about albinos? What would be the average price range? Like I got my normal for $29. Not an exact, but an average. And where?

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Albinos i have seen average around $2000 for either sex. You might find some lower or some higher.

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Originally Posted by Gizm0BP

I know morphs would be more, but what about albinos?

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Just for clarification, an albino IS a morph. The least expensive morph you are going to find is a pastel male which can be had as a baby for $400 on up.

Currently on Kingsnake.com there are Albino BPs going for $1,445.00 :O up to $3,400.00. Remember that age and sex are more or less the determining factor on final price.

Personally I can not believe how cheap they are selling 2006 Males for: $1,445.00!!!! When I purchased my het for high contrast albino pair (two separate NERD bloodlines) any albino was no cheaper than $3K.

All this shady salesmanship is killing BP sales. "Got to move it quick, money problems at home, my dog stubbed his toe, my car needs tires!" Everyone seems to have a lame ass excuse why they are cut throat pricing these gorgeous animals. They are worth what they where getting for them last year. I don't know and apologize if I pissed anyone off. Sorry it
just kills me knowing my hets have a couple years to grow yet and
By the time they are primed, albinos will be probably $250.00 because someone needs a new barbecue! I just do not want to see them turn into the next pet store fad like the albino Burmese did. :irkd:

Aaaah Just my $0.02

Again I apologize for being cynical but I am here for the BPs not for money. The sales of any of my albinos that I receive from the BP Gods would just fund new caging and feeding supplies. As well as acquiring new morphs for my collection. I enjoy handling, feeding and yes even cleaning all of my assorted reptiles. I Love Ball Python breeding for the art it is, not for the money it could make you. Everyone says "Nothing like cleaning up poop from an animal that you do not enjoy"

SORRY AGAIN FOR THE RANT :oops:

It is too early on a Sunday to be talking BP Politics
-DANNY :firstcup:

Preach on brother man! I with u all the way.

Well I personally have only seen 1 person list albinos at that price, so that doesn't mean that is the new market price. ;)

I don't think the price will go down that much at all.If you look back the first Albino's were sold for $8,000 dollar's. I believe it's been 12 year's on the market and their still 2g's ,that's a $500 dollar drop per year give or take.I'm in the same boat I will be selling offspring to aquire other morph's.

At least I know the three of you are the real deal. I care a lot more about my snakes than my wallet. BUT, I would love to acquire a spider,clown,platty so on and so forth. I will NEVER have that much cash flow to spend on a BP. I think the "wild/normal" BPs are BEAUTIFUL TOO! But again the shady people out there are not going to stop me from pursuing my dreams of higher end morphs. So far the albinos and pastels are satisfying my BP appetite. Thanks again guys for the support and I know you will always be there. I wish I started these forums like 6 years ago when I got into BP hardcore. If I knew then what I know now, I might have gone farther in the BP realm by this time in my life.

LOL, good luck ladies and gents in the future!!!

Godspeed

-Danny

I love how everyone "is in it for the snakes" but the same people are always whining about the return on their "investment".

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Originally Posted by bigboyslims

I love how everyone "is in it for the snakes" but the same people are always whining about the return on their "investment".

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Why do you feel the need to make those two concepts mutually exclusive? I could easily invest my captial into real estate, oil & gas, munies, etc ... BUT I just happen to love snakes ... if you love snakes and don't have investment captial, buy normals ... if you have some personal wealth and love snakes, why not invest in them? .... and if you're going to invest, you'd be a fool to not want a return on your investment ... otherwise your money would be better off as a donation to a worth while charity.

-adam

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Why do you feel the need to make those two concepts mutually exclusive? I could easily invest my captial into real estate, oil & gas, munies, etc ... BUT I just happen to love snakes ... if you love snakes and don't have investment captial, buy normals ... if you have some personal wealth and love snakes, why not invest in them? .... and if you're going to invest, you'd be a fool to not want a return on your investment ... otherwise your money would be better off as a donation to a worth while charity.

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Nicely put. Good job.

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Originally Posted by bigboyslims

I love how everyone "is in it for the snakes" but the same people are always whining about the return on their "investment".

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I got the point. You don't invest in oil because you love oil, you invest to get a return on your investment. You don't invest in snakes just to turn a profit or just because you love snakes. In that case it is a little of both unless you get them just to have them and don't breed them.

At any rate, the basic law of supply and demand governs the prices. As more breeders produce more morphs, the prices will natrually drop because the supply increases. If you want to maintain the prices on morphs, you have to limit the supply or increase the demand. This is basic economics.

What you have to remember is that, while there are more and more breeders breeding more morphs, there are also more and more new people getting into the game, every year you see more and more people getting into the ball game, whether its people who have had normals, and are now ready to move up to morphs, or total newbies getting into ball pythons in general, and we all know that leads to wanting a morph LOL or last years morph newbies who have made some money from breeding their snakes and want to spend bigger money, on higher end morphs, so in essence, what Im trying to say is that while supply is increasing, demand is also increasing as well (demand moreso than supply in my opinion) so Im not worried at all about supply exceeding demand.....thats my two bits

Thank you Adam for the Quick Draw Mcgraw response! If I was home from work earlier I would have had a similar response but it may have not been in so many words. LOL, I love educated people. That is why this forum stands alone in being the best BP forum in the world. That is also why I am here.

Now in response to "bigboyslims" comments-

"I love how everyone "is in it for the snakes" but the same people are always whining about the return on their "investment".

I am not whining about the return on my investment. Being a business man myself I was simply stating that it is "shady" to undercut the market you are in and use excuses along the lines of "need cash fast so the BPs have to go". Obviously I am being sarcastic about the car tires and dogs toe in the previous posts. But it is true. People are letting go of their BPs too soon. Why? Maybe because they fear an upcoming BP market crash or is it truthful to say they realized how much WORK it is to take PROPER CARE of their reptiles.

If the market goes south, so will the prices of the higher end morphs so I will just purchase them then. To me it is a win/win situation. I either produce more capital to reinvest or I end up with a lot of gorgeous snakes from years of my own selective breeding. Where am I going wrong here. I win either way.

All my geckos, monitors, bearded dragons and snakes get treated alike, with tender loving care because I will not settle for less. I personally have enough money invested in my assorted collection of PETS that I could say what I want about reinvesting earned money from breeding projects back into the market.

Get me.

Thank you again for your opinions and comments. I am going to end this thread hijack right now. I apologize for such a long post and the hijack gizmo.

Everyone have a good night and be safe.


-Danny

Well put Danny. It actually does sound like you're in it for the animals.

I could not agree more with Adam and Danny.


I love my snakes, and have had "normal" ball pyhtons for years. I am at a position in my life where I have the capital, (and my back can't take jumping ATV's any more), so I choose to "invest" in a few morphs. Sure I would like to make some money in return some day, but that is not the only reason I have the morphs. This is my new hobby, and I enjoy it. Anyone who is in it just for the money will not last, and I think it shows when you see the KS adds for entire collections of 30 or more snakes.

Neil