how exactly does a bp get mouth rot... do they get it when they eat the mouse/rat from the butt up?
05-31-2006, 07:19 PM
joepythons
Re: mouth rot?
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Originally Posted by Ace-of-spades
how exactly does a bp get mouth rot... do they get it when they eat the mouse/rat from the butt up?
NO,from my understanding it starts from upper resp then progresses into the mouthrot.When i was doing rescues i adopted a boa that had mouthrot big time.Other then that the part that really killed me was the guy bought it from the Tinley park show in Chicago.It was sold with mouthrot since the guy was rather new to reptiles he had no clue something was wrong.Do you have a snake that might have mouthrot? Or are you just asking about it?
05-31-2006, 07:27 PM
Adam_Wysocki
Re: mouth rot?
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Originally Posted by joepythons
NO,from my understanding it starts from upper resp then progresses into the mouthrot.
Ulcerative Stomatitis aka "mouth rot" is an infection of it's own and not caused by or necessarily related to upper respiratory infections.
There are a ton of bugs that have been associated with stomatitis in herps like A. aerophila, A. hydrophila, Proteus sp., Staphylococcus sp., and Streptococcus to name a few that I've seen.
Stomatitis is very often the result of poor husbandry which could also be the cause of a URI ... but one doesn't necessarily cause the other.
Hope this helps.
-adam
05-31-2006, 07:34 PM
Ace-of-spades
Re: mouth rot?
no i was just asking to know... so from my understanding it is not caused by the bp eating wrong... more like a rp that got worse and spread..?
05-31-2006, 07:36 PM
Adam_Wysocki
Re: mouth rot?
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Originally Posted by Ace-of-spades
so from my understanding it is not caused by the bp eating wrong
Incorrect ... a scratch or cut on the inside of the snakes mouth from a rodent tooth or claw could get infected and result in mouth rot.
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Originally Posted by Ace-of-spades
... more like a rp that got worse and spread..?
What's a rp?
-adam
05-31-2006, 07:49 PM
Ace-of-spades
Re: mouth rot?
lol opps.... sorry i meant RI ^_^
05-31-2006, 07:56 PM
Adam_Wysocki
Re: mouth rot?
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Originally Posted by Ace-of-spades
lol opps.... sorry i meant RI
Oh ... that makes more sense. Well in that case ...
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Originally Posted by Ace-of-spades
more like a rp that got worse and spread..?
No. Absolutely not.
-adam
05-31-2006, 10:30 PM
joepythons
Re: mouth rot?
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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
Ulcerative Stomatitis aka "mouth rot" is an infection of it's own and not caused by or necessarily related to upper respiratory infections.
There are a ton of bugs that have been associated with stomatitis in herps like A. aerophila, A. hydrophila, Proteus sp., Staphylococcus sp., and Streptococcus to name a few that I've seen.
Stomatitis is very often the result of poor husbandry which could also be the cause of a URI ... but one doesn't necessarily cause the other.
Hope this helps.
-adam
Ok thanks for setting this straight.
05-31-2006, 10:36 PM
4theSNAKElady
Re: mouth rot?
Can't snakes also get stomatitis from a small piece of bedding lodged in the gums (like a splinter) that subsequently became infected??
05-31-2006, 10:39 PM
Adam_Wysocki
Re: mouth rot?
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Originally Posted by 4theSNAKElady
Can't snakes also get stomatitis from a small piece of bedding lodged in the gums (like a splinter) that subsequently became infected??
Right .. above when I said a "scratch or cut" I was only using rodent teeth or claws as an example of a possible cause.
-adam
06-01-2006, 10:06 PM
Lioness
Re: mouth rot?
what are some symptoms? my snake opens her mouth sometimes..kinda looks like she's stretching it out or something.. could that mean she has an RI??
she actually just did it like 15 minutes ago..it doesnt happen often.. but it still happens. i think from the 3 weeks i've had her.. i've seen her do it like 2 or 3 times.
06-01-2006, 10:28 PM
tigerlily
Re: mouth rot?
There's a difference between open mouth breathing and just a quick yawn. If you notice any whistling while they breathe or any bubbles in their mouth get yourself to a vet asap, as those are positive indicator of a respiratory infection. Mouth rot is indicated by a cottage cheese like substance in the mouth.
06-02-2006, 05:24 PM
Lioness
Re: mouth rot?
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Originally Posted by tigerlily
There's a difference between open mouth breathing and just a quick yawn. If you notice any whistling while they breathe or any bubbles in their mouth get yourself to a vet asap, as those are positive indicator of a respiratory infection. Mouth rot is indicated by a cottage cheese like substance in the mouth.
ahh ok..thanks! yea.. i never really saw anything in her mouth when she did it.. just open..and close. looked like a yawn.. but i didnt know they did it. anyway..good to know its nothing too serious. im taking her to a herp show tomorrow to get her sexed so i know for sure what it is.. and im just just guess-timating from the tail :rolleyes:
06-02-2006, 06:32 PM
Ginevive
Re: mouth rot?
All of mine will do the quick yawn; that's nothing bad. If you hear any wheezy, hissy breathing (like hissing without being provoked) then you should be off to the vet.
