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Morphs percentages

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  • 05-25-2006, 05:42 PM
    Cubby23
    Morphs percentages
    Ok so I'm getting a pair of het albinos and I know that when I breed them the chance to get an albino is 25%. Does that mean I am absolutely going to get one albino if I only had 4 eggs? Would it be possible to have 4 eggs and none of those be albinos? What are your experiences with small clutches and hets breeding.
  • 05-25-2006, 05:46 PM
    JLC
    Re: Morphs percentages
    What it means is that EACH EGG has a 25% chance of hatching as an albino. You are not guaranteed one albino out of every four eggs.

    EDIT: In other words, it's possible to have a whole clutch of eggs that turn out to look normal (they'll all be possible hets for albino)...and it's theoretically possible to hatch out all albinos.
  • 05-25-2006, 05:51 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Morphs percentages
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cubby23
    Ok so I'm getting a pair of het albinos and I know that when I breed them the chance to get an albino is 25%. Does that mean I am absolutely going to get one albino if I only had 4 eggs? Would it be possible to have 4 eggs and none of those be albinos? What are your experiences with small clutches and hets breeding.

    I've had 12 eggs from Pastel x Normal yield no pastels and 11 eggs from Lesser x Normal yield nine lessers.

    4 eggs from het albino x het albino give me 3 albinos and 7 eggs from het hypo x het hypo give me 1 hypo.

    It's all up to the ball gods ... there are no guarantees.

    -adam
  • 05-25-2006, 05:53 PM
    Tony2Dogs
    Re: Morphs percentages
    Nope, I had 7 eggs two years ago and 9 the year before that from albino hets
    and got 00000 albinos. Its all a roll of the dice.
  • 05-25-2006, 05:57 PM
    cueball
    Re: Morphs percentages
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tony2Dogs
    Nope, I had 7 eggs two years ago and 9 the year before that from albino hets
    and got 00000 albinos. Its all a roll of the dice.

    Well that's a pretty solid :groinkick

    Any chance in your mind that they are not hets?
  • 05-25-2006, 05:57 PM
    Cubby23
    Re: Morphs percentages
    Well I guess I better start praying. I hope I get lucky. I'll also make sure my female is as large and healthy as possilble.
  • 05-25-2006, 06:00 PM
    elevatethis
    Re: Morphs percentages
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tony2Dogs
    Nope, I had 7 eggs two years ago and 9 the year before that from albino hets
    and got 00000 albinos. Its all a roll of the dice.

    That smells funny. Were the parents 100% hets (i.e. proven possible hets or offspring from albino x normal)? Where did you get you "hets" from?
  • 05-25-2006, 06:01 PM
    Tony2Dogs
    Re: Morphs percentages
    "Any chance in your mind that they are not hets?"

    I gave them to my brother and the next year he got two that year. And 1 the year after.

    My luck!
  • 05-25-2006, 06:02 PM
    elevatethis
    Re: Morphs percentages
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
    11 eggs from Lesser x Normal yield nine lessers.

    I hope you had a change of shorts when you opened up that egg box...:rockon:
  • 05-25-2006, 06:02 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Morphs percentages
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tony2Dogs
    Nope, I had 7 eggs two years ago and 9 the year before that from albino hets
    and got 00000 albinos. Its all a roll of the dice.

    I would be calling the guy that sold them to me.

    The odds of missing a homozygous animal in a het to het breeding with 16 eggs total is .... 1 in 100 ... possible, but not likely.

    -adam
  • 05-25-2006, 06:03 PM
    elevatethis
    Re: Morphs percentages
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tony2Dogs
    "Any chance in your mind that they are not hets?"

    I gave them to my brother and the next year he got two that year. And 1 the year after.

    My luck!

    The ball gods don't like you one bit!
  • 05-25-2006, 06:04 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Morphs percentages
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tony2Dogs
    "Any chance in your mind that they are not hets?"

    I gave them to my brother and the next year he got two that year. And 1 the year after.

    My luck!

    So you purchased a pair of het albinos in 1998? WOW ... Talk about getting in early!!!

    Just curious, but what were female 100% hets going for back then? :O

    -adam
  • 05-25-2006, 07:24 PM
    Tony2Dogs
    Re: Morphs percentages
    "So you purchased a pair of het albinos in 1998? WOW ... Talk about getting in early!!!"

    Who siad i got them in 1998? Made a trade for them in 2002.
  • 05-25-2006, 07:28 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Morphs percentages
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tony2Dogs
    "So you purchased a pair of het albinos in 1998? WOW ... Talk about getting in early!!!"

    Who siad i got them in 1998? Made a trade for them in 2002.

    Well ROCK ON then! ;)

    4 clutches between 02 and 05 is good stuff! :D:D:D

    -adam
  • 05-25-2006, 07:45 PM
    ddbjdealer
    Re: Morphs percentages
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tony2Dogs
    Who siad i got them in 1998? Made a trade for them in 2002.

    Neato
  • 05-25-2006, 08:43 PM
    Tony2Dogs
    Re: Morphs percentages
    Its not hard! one in 02,one in 03,one in 04 and one in 05=4
  • 05-25-2006, 08:46 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Morphs percentages
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tony2Dogs
    Its not hard! one in 02,one in 03,one in 04 and one in 05=4

    Exactly!! .. Good stuff :sweeet: ... Even cooler that someone gave up a gravid 100% het albino female in a trade!! ... Would have liked to have gotten a crack at that deal! :D:D:D

    :rockon:

    -adam
  • 05-25-2006, 09:31 PM
    Emilio
    Re: Morphs percentages
    Wow this one's getting good.
  • 05-25-2006, 11:20 PM
    SnakeySnakeSnake
    Re: Morphs percentages
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
    I've had 12 eggs from Pastel x Normal yield no pastels and 11 eggs from Lesser x Normal yield nine lessers.

    4 eggs from het albino x het albino give me 3 albinos and 7 eggs from het hypo x het hypo give me 1 hypo.

    It's all up to the ball gods ... there are no guarantees.

    -adam

    It has been a while since math in college, :) Wouldnt the pastel odds be (1/2)^12 = 1 in 4096 chance of having 12 eggs turn out all normals? Thats madness!
  • 05-25-2006, 11:28 PM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Morphs percentages
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SnakeySnakeSnake
    It has been a while since math in college, :) Wouldnt the pastel odds be (1/2)^12 = 1 in 4096 chance of having 12 eggs turn out all normals? Thats madness!

    You should have seen the daze I was in after I cut the clutch ... the real killer is that she had produced pastels the previous two years from the same male and has gone on to produce many other morphs ... wasn't too happy with her that year though.

    -adam
  • 05-26-2006, 12:55 AM
    SnakeySnakeSnake
    Re: Morphs percentages
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki
    You should have seen the daze I was in after I cut the clutch ... the real killer is that she had produced pastels the previous two years from the same male and has gone on to produce many other morphs ... wasn't too happy with her that year though.

    -adam

    I bet, did you buy a lotto ticket that day?
  • 05-26-2006, 01:00 AM
    Adam_Wysocki
    Re: Morphs percentages
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SnakeySnakeSnake
    I bet, did you buy a lotto ticket that day?

    Nope, I bought an adult male lesser platty. ;)

    -adam
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