Striped?

Can you get a Genetic stripe by breeding a normal ball python with a stripe to a normal ball python with a stripe? like this one- http://www.reptilebasics.com/ball_python_available.html

no, a genetic stripe like this one http://www.8ballpythons.com/stripe.htm


is a recessive trait, both parents need to have the gene for stripe. the ones you linked to are not genetic stripes and are considered normals. nothing has been proven to my knowledge of that kind of stripe yet. they are still cool looking and i like them even if not genetic.


vaughn

i like them too, i am getting one or two.

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Originally Posted by herplover92

i like them too, i am getting one or two.

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One or two...where did you find this money tree, and can I have some? :P

I hope you know that just het for genetic stripe males are going for 3k, and females around 6.5k

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Originally Posted by JBallPython

One or two...where did you find this money tree, and can I have some? :P

I hope you know that just het for genetic stripe males are going for 3k, and females around 6.5k

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But normal stripes are like $200 I think, just not genetic :)

Ah, I think I read that post wrong, I figured that it was a response to the link, and that he liked those too (genetic stripes). I get it now. :oops:

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Originally Posted by SnakeySnakeSnake

But normal stripes are like $200 I think, just not genetic :)

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$200 is steep for a non-genetic stripe!!

-adam

I think they throw around the two terms too easily. The genetic stripe looks so much different than a normal stripe. Maybe people should start referring to the genetic one as a "Patternless stripe", although that would be an oxymoron. :P

Another problem with the current name is if someone does discover that their normal looking stripe is genetic, couldn't they refer to it as a genetic stripe as well?

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

$200 is steep for a non-genetic stripe!!

-adam

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Just going by prices on kingsnake :) They always hype it up by saying "who knows what you might produce, could be the next bla bla bla"

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Originally Posted by SnakeySnakeSnake

Just going by prices on kingsnake :) They always hype it up by saying "who knows what you might produce, could be the next bla bla bla"

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Gotta love that part of the hobby. Could be, might be, something special, etc etc etc...

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Originally Posted by jglass38

Gotta love that part of the hobby. Could be, might be, something special, etc etc etc...

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It could be a magical snake that will grant wishes, or makes you rich and more handsome.... but I doubt it :(

the one i was talking about is this one http://www.reptilebasics.com/ball_python_available.htmland they go for as low as 75.

Biiiiig difference between a normal with a nice stripe and genetic stripes.

Look at them side by side. First is the normal BP with nice striping courtesy of Reptile Basics. The second is a genetic stripe courtesy of Corey Woods (by the way an excellent guy and breeder of fine reptiles up in Canada, eh).

http://www.glassreptiles.com/pictures/normalstripe.jpg
http://www.glassreptiles.com/pictures/geneticstripe.jpg

Hrm, those two look identical to me... I can see why there would be confusion

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Originally Posted by SnakeySnakeSnake

Hrm, those two look identical to me... I can see why there would be confusion

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Wait, what? They do??? No more soldering fumes for you buddy! :)

Striped BP's are only worth what the buyer is willing to pay. They are pretty but when you see CH babies for $200 and up going for sale that's nuts especially when they got them for. 1000 ch BP's delivered from Africa to my airport would run $8 per snake if I wanted them. This would be straight from the farm. No one would have the chance to handpick all of the good one. In that crate would possibly be yellow bellies, stripes, ringers, pastels, who knows. There could also be many dead ones and dehydrated ones. That is where these people are getting them and them dramatically marking them up for resale.


Now a genetic stripe on the other hand is completely different that a normal with a stripe. Those are proven and the trait is able to be passed on.

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Originally Posted by SPJ

No one would have the chance to handpick all of the good one. In that crate would possibly be yellow bellies, stripes, ringers, pastels, who knows.

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"Specials" are picked out in Africa and crated to importers separately from normals. They are also more expensive. The exporters in Ghana and Togo know ball python morphs better than anyone ... they get their money. ;)

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

"Specials" are picked out in Africa and crated to importers separately from normals. They are also more expensive. The exporters in Ghana and Togo know ball python morphs better than anyone ... they get their money. ;)

-adam

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I always assumed that was the case, but I've seen a few posts of people "finding" cinnys, axanthics, yellow bellies... Are they pulling our legs?

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Originally Posted by xdeus

I always assumed that was the case, but I've seen a few posts of people "finding" cinnys, axanthics, yellow bellies... Are they pulling our legs?

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I just don't see how it's possible. Everything "special" comes in bags and the bags are labeled ... 3.0 cinny, 3.4 yb, 2.9 granite ... it's all invoiced and accounted for ... the africans are very picky about getting every nickle that they can out of each crate.

I think what those people mean is that when they get to the importers place and go through the crates, they "find" those animals in the bags of "specials".

-adam

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Originally Posted by Adam_Wysocki

I just don't see how it's possible. Everything "special" comes in bags and the bags are labeled ... 3.0 cinny, 3.4 yb, 2.9 granite ... it's all invoiced and accounted for ... the africans are very picky about getting every nickle that they can out of each crate.

I think what those people mean is that when they get to the importers place and go through the crates, they "find" those animals in the bags of "specials".

-adam

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That makes more sense. I could see perhaps a yellow belly getting through, but I'd think the people in Africa would look at all of them pretty close to find what would amount to a year's salary or more in one morph.