Want a morph. Price range?

Hi everyone. Ive been looking at morph pictures and I aboslutely love them all. I hope to, one day, be able to breed some. My question is, which would be the least expensive one to start with?

Pastel ball pythons are one of the least expensive morphs and a good beginner morph. It is a co-dominant trait, so you can produce visable morphs in your first breeding and you have the potential to produce super pastels. You still need to spend a little extra and get quality stock when getting a pastel....cheapest is not always best.

What do you consider inexpensive? Do you have any female ball pythons yet? Females take 2+ years to get to breeding size, so it is good to start with them first.

Im actually not planning on breeding for a couple of years, i just want one as a pet for now so ill probably go with a female. I have NO idea what the price range is though. I do want to breed them , but further down the line, right now I just want a pet :P

I'd rather not go over the 1k mark. I get about 2k back from my financial aid and thats money I can burn since its not in the paycheck so I don't feel guilty.

howabout a male het albino. they're about 200 bucks and you can get a female for about 500-800 (im pretty sure thats about right). you might want to look into them.

remember, never get a morph/animal because its cheap. it's better to save up and get what you love then to get the cheaper thing because its easier.;) :)

To be honest, I love them all. I'd rather love one and not be broke than love one and be completely ripped. Though I do understand what you're saying, I just want one for husbandry purposes right now and Ill love him as much as I love my normal BP Stewie.

btw, what does het mean? Not actually albino bt carrying the gene? Ive seen posts of 100% het albino's that aren't albino.

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btw, what does het mean? Not actually albino bt carrying the gene? Ive seen posts of 100% het albino's that aren't albino.

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Yes, you understand right. It takes two "albino" genes to make a visible albino. A "het for albino" has one of the genes necessary. If you see "66% possible het for albino" it means that particular snake might be carrying the gene, but you can't be sure until you prove it through breeding.

I'd go with a female if you don't plan on breeding for a year or two anyways. By the time you are ready she should be up to size, and in terms of het albino for recessives you'll have the expensive one (female) already taken care of and then you can get a male later on to breed to her if you would want albinos.

Just my two cents

kk, thanks guys, one more q, any idea where I can get one of these 100% hets?

Lots of breeders sell them. You just have to check around and see what folks have available. I would highly recommend clicking on our ad banners to start with...it helps support BP.net as well as directing you to some premier breeders!


Best place to start is browsing their websites, but many "available" pages aren't always up to date...so when you get serious about buying, you should also e-mail or call the breeders to find out if they have what you're looking for.

Definitely will do, although i don't get financial aid until september. Is there a specific season where these are more available or is it mostly a year round thing?

June, July, August...those are probably the months that a person would have the biggest selection of new babies. September should be fine, too. But you can find what you're looking for pretty much at any time of the year...just might have to look a little harder sometimes.

as judy said, sept. will be fine! if you're looking for cb babies, breeders are hatching them now through the rest of the year. by sept. you should be able to find nice well started babies. pastels are a great way to into morphs! you can sell/trade the babies and make morphs you're first year!:rockon:



vaughn

Be smart when you are buying Hets. Don't just jump on the first "good deal" that you see. Check out the breeder before you buy, ask for references, etc... There are far too many scumbags out there that will prey upon the uninformed and pass off normals as Hets, then 3 years later if they don't prove out the original seller has disappeared. Caveat emptor! ;)

Ok, i just spent a little time researching hets. If I mix 2 100% het, i should get 1/4 normal, 1/2 het and 1/4 homozygous right? That means that two 100% het's should yield atleast one homo on the first try right?

Here another question, when breeding homo's, they should be from completely different parents right?

Also, these het rules apply for albino, what other morphs work this way?

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Ok, i just spent a little time researching hets. If I mix 2 100% het, i should get 1/4 normal, 1/2 het and 1/4 homozygous right? That means that two 100% het's should yield atleast one homo on the first try right?

Here another question, when breeding homo's, they should be from completely different parents right?

Also, these het rules apply for albino, what other morphs work this way?

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Use hypos for example....If you breed two het hypos together....each egg will have a 25% chance of being a homozygous hypo, 50% chance of being het hypo, and 25% chance of being normal....You can not tell hets from normals so all normal appearing offspring are labeled as 66% hets...which means they each have a 66% chance of being heterozygous.

Each egg has its own odds. The more eggs you have, the better your odds of getting a homozygous animal will be. Nothing is guaranteed in reptile breeding....you may get all normal appearing offspring from a het to het breeding....but then again, you may get all homozygous babies....it depends on how the ball python morph gods favor you.

albino,hypo,pieds,caramels,axanthic,stripes,clowns off the top of my head. with a slew of other combos and designer morphs to cross with. do a little search on this site and others like nerd's ,ralph's (rdr), they have a bunch of morph info.



vaughn

When I pray, its ALWAYS to the Ball Python gods! :)

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When I pray, its ALWAYS to the Ball Python gods! :)

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LOL, nice, ill be sure to remember that. last question (I promise) If I have two visible albino parents, will all the offspring be albino?

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LOL, nice, ill be sure to remember that. last question (I promise) If I have two visible albino parents, will all the offspring be albino?

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Yes...unless there are unexpected het genes from something else hiding in there.

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Yes...unless there are unexpected het genes from something else hiding in there.

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Visible albino het pied x Visible albino het pied (the het pied part is invisible!), could yield an albino pied (just giving an example from what JLC said above)

Anther cool example


Caramel Albino het hypo x Caramel Albino het hypo could make caramel glows

Can't wait to see what the Bp god's have in store for me.

hey, Im from Miami too, did you get your het's from some breeder around here?