nipped tail Pied

I have been wanting a pied for a while now but the price has gotten to my wallet. My own buisness outside my love for snakes is farley new. However i found one I may be able to afford. It is a cutie but may not be able to breed. Is this a great once in a life time kind of deal or a crazy risk?

http://www.reptileauctions.com/aucti...ls.php?id=7347

Boy, tough call...he's awful pretty, but even beyond breeding, is he going to be okay as he gets older? =P

I would be interested in how this happened and when and more pics of this issue with this animal....

Hard to say. The guy says he eats fine and poops fine. He also got the ok from the vet but who knows if it was even a herp vet. He left his number though so if you all can leave some good questions to ask, that would be great!

How did this happen?
When did this happen?
Can you provide me w/ records from your vet regarding this injury?
Can you provide me with more accurite pics of the injury?

I wouldnt touch that deal! To close to the Berry's!! LOL

Yikes. If you could inspect the snake in person, that would be one thing. If the seller is willing to send you clear, detailed, close-up pics of the injury, that would be a lot better than the fuzzy, can't-quite-tell-what's-going-on photos already posted.

As far as it being able to breed, don't necessarily count on it unless you see a pic of everted, intact hemipenes. Tail damage *can* have a big impact on a males ability to breed, and since the seller hasn't provided an up-close-and-personal pic of that injury, I'd be very leery.

Just my $4.00 (adjusted for fuel surcharge).

K~

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Originally Posted by KLG

Just my $4.00 (adjusted for fuel surcharge).

K~

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LOL, ain't that the truth!! I need to hurry and finish inventing my car that uses snake poop as fuel. :P

Wow, it looks like it got cut off right below the cloaca. I'm not sure how the hemipenes would have made it through that ordeal. Still, I'm sure it would make a nice pet, but still kind of pricey for one that can't breed.

Thank you all for your advice. Even if it is a great price, his health may be in question. If it is more than harmless nip that adds a bit of charcter I am out. I would rather pay for a healthy happy pet.

Man that is a gorgeous snake!!!! I too, would think it would have been extremely lucky if it hadn't lost one or both hemipenes...that "nip" is just a little too close for comfort!!!!! I wouldn't be interested at all unless he could provide you with a photo of the snake being popped. But, man, if the guy was fine, that would be one sweeeeet deal!!!!

I'm sorry...we are waaay past the point of "nip" here...just for perspective. That snake was a Greenie for a gnaw-happy rat. While there are psycho rats on occasion, most often injuries like this are from a rat left in with a snake too long. Makes you wonder what other details may not be covered...

Let's put it this way. If I wanted to sell a deformed/injured snake, and was selling it as possibly breedable, i would take several high-res photos of the area, including photos of the intact hemipenes, as well as a copy of the vet note, and the vets number for confirmation of his/her opinion on the matter.

The way they are selling it, I would almost guarantee one of the following:
1) The seller is lazy
2) That snake is almost definitely unbreedable

everything else aside, your first clue here should be the fact that they are selling it on a reptile auction site. not much good comes from those places...

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Originally Posted by mlededee

everything else aside, your first clue here should be the fact that they are selling it on a reptile auction site. not much good comes from those places...

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i agree i like looking and watching the site but thats about it.
and that i a pretty peid but in that state i would invest alot of money in him. as a pet maybe but for a lot less then he wants

that's not a male anymore! i would call it a unic... makes me scared just thinking about it:bolt:


run forest, run :soapbx:


vaughn

I'm really interested in HOW that happened. Would a tail be surgically removed if it were bitten bad enough by a rodent?

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LOL, ain't that the truth!! I need to hurry and finish inventing my car that uses snake poop as fuel. :P

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When you get that one finished put me down for 2!! :sweeet:

He will not tell anyone how it happened.One of the last times he had it on the auctions people had asked him how it happened and he never reasponded to them.I agree the snake is nice looking but why take the chance on it as there might be other health issues with it not disclosed before you buy it.I am not sure about the rest of the males that looked at the pic,but i kinda had to take a deep breath looking at how close the nip is to the vent :eek: .

I don't think I would buy it , breeding is very important and fun. When you have such a beauty you wanna make more of them. And 1600 dollar's for a world of limitation's is not for me , 400 more get's you an Albino.

Besides all the above stated points - how much value (besides pet value) is a non-breedable pied male? Because in all likelyhood - I doubt seriously that kid will ever be able to produce offspring.


So, with that said - is he worth $1600 for his looks alone? As much as I want to own a pied myself - I'm also being practical. If I'm going to invest that much in an animal - I'd want it to breed. I know that he's less than a flawless animal - but he's still too highly priced for a pet with cool markings.

I totally agree Robin. Without the equipment, he is useless as a breeder. $1600 is way to pricey for a pet. If you don't mind spending a little more for a cool looking snake pet, there are many other less expensive choices out there. And lets face it, people who are looking to invest that kinda money on a BP is definately lookin for a snake he can breed. Buying that guy would almost be the same as taking the 1600 to a casino and pullin' the lever all night......BOTH are an expensive gamble. Like emilio said..." for $400 more, you can get an albino"....:clap: :clap: