need help choosing what to get next...

okay, i'm soooo in love with red tailed boas... but because of their size, i don't want to get one (just don't have the room for a nice size encl for them) - so i'd like to stay with something that only gets the size of a ball.

of course my dream snake would be a rtb but a dwarf LOL

i have two cornsnakes - valentino and gandalf and my one beautiful fat squishy ball - dexter.

so, what do you all suggest?

howbout a nicaraguan boa? they're a RTB and they only get about the size of a ball.

Well, a male hog island boa will likely stay under 6'. I know of some breeder age males that are 4.5'.

There are many, many colubrid species to choose from.. kings, milks, corns, rats, and their morphs. Any particular color(s) or patterns you're interested in?

sand boas (kenyan and roughscaled) are lovely little pets.

jungle carpet pythons stay pretty small..

sumatran short tail python or even a blood python

Nicaraguans have muddy patterns usually and are known for being aggressive.

I've recently gotten interested in snakes in the Pituophis family: Bulls, Gophers, and and Pines. I'm actually checking into getting a bull... they can get pretty large---up to 6ft.---but they aren't too heavy-bodied.

Gophers and Pines stay a bit smaller and there are tons of different morphs and colors. And, speaking of colors, there's always Kings and Milks (*cough* *cough* Sinaloan milksnake).

Hog island!! They rock!

Oooh! Or African House Snakes... check out these little cuties (another I've been considering for myself):

Normal phase:
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...housesnake.jpg

Albino phase:
http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...ousesnake1.jpg

I own quite a few of the species I mentioned too, so if you've got questions or want pics, just ask.

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April owns quite a few of EVERY species! I'm jealous!

:)

Not quite. :P Getting there though. ;)

get another Ball Python lol ^_^

Yea I'm having the same problem I'm I also love the Bulls but don't know which would be better since bulls need alot of handling to keep tame.

Why dont you check into different Milks? Like Andeans, Hondos, etc.... Or maybe some kind of king?

i think it's the face of the hog island boa i love... and i really really like the change in coloration from the head to the tail of the boas...

do you have any photos for me cause all the ones i'm finding on the net suck.

here's the local breeders site of what he has...

http://www.a1pythons.com/avail.htm

This is my female hog island. It isn't easy to find one of her quality. I got lucky.

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil.../divafeb06.JPG

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...8/divatail.jpg

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...8/divahold.jpg

oh wow, gorgeous... what do you feed her? rats or bunnies? how big is her enclosure?

... Could get one of these!


http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/575/godzilla66fs.jpg

I am! ... Anyone got a bulldozer and some C4 for when I have to clean up after him?

She gets rats.. usually one large/jumbo every other week. She's in a 4' x 2' boaphile cage.. with plenty of room to spare.

do you know anything about Spot Saddled Pastel Boa?

Hadn't heard of that before.

i've emailed henry to ask him (the breeder) - that's who i purchased dexter from (my ball) last year... i'll let you know what he says. :)

off to search more snakes on the net... or go to bed.. not sure yet LOL

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do you know anything about Spot Saddled Pastel Boa?

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If you are talking about that one listed on Henry's site, it is a differently marked rtb. Its markings may or may not be genetic.

okay so i've been told:

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There aren't to many snakes that only grow to 3', even Children's pythons will get a bit longer than that. Male boas can stay a very manageable size, depending on how much you feed them and to some degree their genetics. You can keep a male under 6 feet pretty much his whole life. This sounds bigger than it really is, a 6 foot boa is very easy to handle even for a child. I have an albino male that is 4 years old now and is only 4.5 feet long and lives in a 2.5 x 2 foot cage. Hog island boas are a smaller race of boa and only grow to about 5 feet for males, usually a bit less.

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you boa lovers... (and yes you know who you are) - do you agree with these statements? cause when it comes to anything except balls and corns... i'm completely uneducated. :firstcup:

Another snake to consider in your future is a Vietnamese Blue Beauty...cuz a little birdy told me we might know someone who's gonna breed them next year. =)

They are awesome!

well that same birdie told me we have a border between us :(

Isn't Canada part of the US yet and under our control? What is taking so long!?! :)

we're too busy drinking beer and chasing bears eh!



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hah..Exactly! :sweeet:

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Dont forget hockey!!!

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Dont forget hockey!!!

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Only the greatest sport in the world. Go Rangers!!!

i'm not much into hockey... i'd rather watch paint dry!

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Only the greatest sport in the world. Go Rangers!!!

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I love you, Jamie! ^_^

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i'm not much into hockey... i'd rather watch paint dry!

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Isn't that considered Blasphemy in Canada?

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Woohoo!!! ;)

ya, but i stay in the closet regarding my opinions LOL

Don't be a closet case.

Oh...and get another Ball. O_O I LOVE balls.

well if i get another ball i want it to be something amazing... and that's just a little much $$ for me to spend.

okay so i've been told:

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There aren't to many snakes that only grow to 3', even Children's pythons will get a bit longer than that. Male boas can stay a very manageable size, depending on how much you feed them and to some degree their genetics. You can keep a male under 6 feet pretty much his whole life. This sounds bigger than it really is, a 6 foot boa is very easy to handle even for a child. I have an albino male that is 4 years old now and is only 4.5 feet long and lives in a 2.5 x 2 foot cage. Hog island boas are a smaller race of boa and only grow to about 5 feet for males, usually a bit less.


you boa lovers... (and yes you know who you are) - do you agree with these statements? cause when it comes to anything except balls and corns... i'm completely uneducated.

(i'm reposting this as it's lost on earlier pages and i haven't received an answer)

A six foot boa is a pretty manageable snake... for an adult. I wouldn't agree with the child part. Kinky is 6' long and I doubt that I would let a child hold her for any amount of time (and I'm talking 12 and under). It's all right if she's on the floor and kids are around, but she's a big, solid snake, and very strong, even with her condition. If they would get scared, or she would get scared, well... I just wouldn't trust it (my opinion).

Also, there are no guarentees as to how long a male boa will be get. Yes, you could keep a snake's size down if you don't feed him every week. He'll stay small. But why would you not want to feed your snake properly? A properly fed male boa (BCI) can be anywhere from 5-7 feet long. Even bigger sometimes (though not very often).

Hope this helps.

very much... thank you.

it just didn't sound right to me.

so this is correct regardling hog island boas?

Hog island boas are a smaller race of boa and only grow to about 5 feet for males, usually a bit less.

what size enclosure do they need as adults?

True it is! As adults, A 4 X 2 X 2 is sufficient in my opinion. They are awesome snakes and they go through very cool color changes based on the time of day. There are some good breeders out there so make sure you get a PURE Hog from one of them. I'm not a fan of the crossing of Hogs.

thanks jamie!

Recycling goddess, look no further......
This... (leucy rat snake) ......
http://snakeneggs.com/snakepics/Star%20coiled.jpg

...or this....(rosy boa)..only gets about three feet and super friendly!!!!
http://snakeneggs.com/snakepics/happy%20momma.jpg
...both are great snakes!!!!!

I agree even a large hog island would be fine in a 4' x 2' cage. They're awesome boas.. and not so common as a colombian BCI!

Rosy's (rosies?) are pretty darn neat. I held an adult rosy at the IRBA show we went to...very calm and "hi!" kind of snake. =)

so i realize this may be a stupid question but... what size enclosure will my male ball need when he's grown?

we actually really like rosy boas but everyone we've talked to said they are "boring" - i'm not sure why or how they could be... but i love the colours of the rosies. ;)

although i'm sitting here thinking... the kids don't REALLY need a family room... perhaps we can convert it to a snake room and get a RTB after all LOL (how big would a RTB enclosure be for an adult?) 12 sq ft is it?

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

I don't personally care for the look of rosy boas, but they are closely related to some of my favorite snakes.. sand boas! Far from boring.