Humidity problem and a stuffed snake

Happy monday everyone!
I was able to get my tank heated properly but the humidity problem is still going strong.:tricho:

My tank is 4 feet long, 1 foot wide and 1 foot 10 inches height.

I have one UTH and 120W bulb on the hot end. one 50W on the cool end and a black bulb doing the center right.

these are the options Ive tried to get the humidity to 60
1. large water dish in center with soaked sponged in dish with whole :mad:
2. large water dish under uth and hot bulb with an extra water dish along with the soaked sponge. Even tried covering 1/3 of the tanks top.:irkd:
3. using a funky fogger from some thing my dad has inside of a dish placed on the top of the tank so the fog falls into the tank.
That idea seems to work and bring us the most humidity but it exceeds the right amount of humidity and soaks the tank after a while which isnt good. also it can decrease the tanks heat to much in the middle. :confused:

What the heck should I do? Its not so easy to spray the tank down with a mist bottle cause i have to get it really wet and it last about 5 minutes.
What options have you guys and gals tried and what works best?

Also, we fed Khan a rat "hopper" that seemed mighty big for him (khans about 2 1/2 feet about 190-200 grams) and although he ate it his stmoach looks HUGE :O and in the last 2 and a half days he has not moved. every now and then we will pull his head up to check out whats going on. Is it possible his eyes were bigger than his stomach and we feed him something to big and we hurt him?

We house both our BP and BCC in 20L glass vivs and are able to keep the temps and humidity pretty much right on. Have a look at the guide my fiance Rick wrote up. =)

if you have the money i would reccomend getting a second UTH and thermostat to create the cool side and then one CHE in the middle for ambient temps. then cover most of the rest of the screen with sran wrap, plexiglass, aluminum foil, etc. and that will help the humidity too.

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Originally Posted by gmmuscle91

if you have the money i would reccomend getting a second UTH and thermostat to create the cool side and then one CHE in the middle for ambient temps. then cover most of the rest of the screen with sran wrap, plexiglass, aluminum foil, etc. and that will help the humidity too.

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would I get rid of some bulbs then if I purchased another UTH since most of the cage top has lights on it?
Thanks for your advice I really need it..i spent the whole weekend trying all sorts of things.

Heat light bulbs will suck more humidity from the air than a heat emitter...

In both our vivs, we have two UTH's set up with thermostats and then a CHE plugged in with the warm side UTH. The CHE is centered over the water bowl, which acts as a water source for the snake as well as an evaporation pool to help keep the humidity up.

Then the screen lid is covered with a custom cut piece of plexiglass - although Saran Wrap or whatever plastic will also probably work, we just like the "cleaner" look of the plex.

http://www.onlinethingy.com/files/gr...opic13_big.jpg

What's not listed in the above picture is the daylight lamp above and to the right of the moonlight lamp (daylight set from 6am-6pm, moonlight 6pm-6am). Neither provide that much additional heat to the viv, maybe 1-3 degrees. They are there since our house is dark most of the time (closed blinds) so to enforce when day and night is and so we can see the girls. =)

I see,

so do you think I should get frid of a bulb, maybe a 125 watt black and do the ceramic heater that can give me just the right amount of heat? I mean so far it looks as if it is truly the lighting thats sucking my humidity.

I am looking into getting a Exo Terra Fogger, should I cut loose with the moola and get one or try the other options first....
ahhh I am going nuts here!

Here is what I do for my tank. I have Beauty in a 55 gallon tank as he is 4 foot long. I have flex watt on warm side with ranco thermostat. On cool I have a 11 watt uth with another thermostat. The temps are 90 on warm and 85 on cool. I then have the water dish in the middle under the main light. This produces a humidity level of 64%. Then when shedding starts I bump up the humidity by placing warm water in the dish.

I have also covered 3/4 of my screen on top to hold in the moistuer.

I hope this helps.

Regards,
Beauty the BP

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Originally Posted by Beauty the BP

Here is what I do for my tank. I have Beauty in a 55 gallon tank as he is 4 foot long. I have flex watt on warm side with ranco thermostat. On cool I have a 11 watt uth with another thermostat. The temps are 90 on warm and 85 on cool. I then have the water dish in the middle under the main light. This produces a humidity level of 64%. Then when shedding starts I bump up the humidity by placing warm water in the dish.

I have also covered 3/4 of my screen on top to hold in the moistuer.

I hope this helps.

Regards,
Beauty the BP

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i have never seen flex watt used, how does it work and how do you use it according to a tank/how much/ where?

contact matt at www.mgreptiles.com and he will help you with all your needs. he is a great guy and everyone here will agree. also, his username here is justcage, so if you want you could probably pm him. i have a shipment of flexwatt on the way with a ranco thermostat from matt. for your 4 foot long tank i would get 2 feet of 11in flexwatt with a thermostat( which kind depends on what you are willing to spend).
that would be best for the warm side. BTW, what are the temps for your hot and cool side of the cage?

why is flexwatt so great?? and what does it substitute for?

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Originally Posted by Swizzle

why is flexwatt so great?? and what does it substitute for?

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flexwatt substitutes for UTH's. flexwatt works just as well or maybe even better that say a eco-terra UTH and costs considerably less, at like 3.70 or so per foot+the 8.00 for the wiring, which still comes up cheaper.

also would it be recomended to change from a basking light to a ceramic heat lamp. I see alot of people say yes but i want to make sure

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Originally Posted by gmmuscle91

contact matt at www.mgreptiles.com and he will help you with all your needs. he is a great guy and everyone here will agree. also, his username here is justcage, so if you want you could probably pm him. i have a shipment of flexwatt on the way with a ranco thermostat from matt. for your 4 foot long tank i would get 2 feet of 11in flexwatt with a thermostat( which kind depends on what you are willing to spend).
that would be best for the warm side. BTW, what are the temps for your hot and cool side of the cage?

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my hot end is about 90-92
my cool end is 78 ish give or take when the fogger flows
the middle gets about 80

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Originally Posted by Swizzle

also would it be recomended to change from a basking light to a ceramic heat lamp. I see alot of people say yes but i want to make sure

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yes. heat bulbs take out more humidity than CHE's.

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Originally Posted by 4Khan

my hot end is about 90-92
my cool end is 78 ish give or take when the fogger flows
the middle gets about 80

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your hot end is good but you want your cool end to be about 82-84, so you want to bump that up a bit. anything below 80 has a risk of causing RI.

Thanks!

I honestly cannot keep the middle and the cool end steady temps, mostly because I am still working on the humidity problem.

I am going to switch to a heat emitter this week, for my 4ftLength tank should I use a 165W for the hot end? lower or higher?

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Originally Posted by 4Khan

Thanks!

I honestly cannot keep the middle and the cool end steady temps, mostly because I am still working on the humidity problem.

I am going to switch to a heat emitter this week, for my 4ftLength tank should I use a 165W for the hot end? lower or higher?

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im not sure why you want a che for the hot end? if you want it for ambient temps then you just need a 50 or 75 watt bulb for the hot end or it will change the ground temp to much. as for the cool end i would get another uth, preferably flexwatt, but if you cant afford a thermostat than i would get a 150 watt che for the cool end and try that out. remember, you want belly heat, not back heat, and as few lamps as possible, that will help your humidity most.

thanks again.

Im going to get a UTH for the cool and a CHE for the ambient temp. which would then cut out like two or three extra lights i got going. Thanks again for the help.

I got a joke for you....
Why do seagulls fly over the sea?
:giggle:

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Originally Posted by 4Khan

thanks again.

Im going to get a UTH for the cool and a CHE for the ambient temp. which would then cut out like two or three extra lights i got going. Thanks again for the help.

I got a joke for you....
Why do seagulls fly over the sea?
:giggle:

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good. remember to get a thermostat too. you should really consider getting the flexwatt from matt and if you already have a thermostat for the hot side i would switch that over to flexwatt too. put the che in the middle and then cover most of the rest of the screen with saran wrap, contac paper, etc.

oh, i have no idea why seagulls fly over the sea!!!

Because if they flew over the bay, they'd be bay-guls (bagels
)!! lol

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Originally Posted by tigerlily

Because if they flew over the bay, they'd be bay-guls (bagels
)!! lol

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LMAO. that was pretty funny!!!

yay!!! i love that joke!
I read it on a popsicle stick when I was a kid!

gots another one for ya....

Why did the elephant sit on his watch?......:giggle:

to smash time????

he wanted to BE ON TIME!!!!! :pinkele:
oh my gawd thats some funny stuff!!!!!!

LMAO wow...

I have a solid wood top and have never had to worry about humidity. I have a water dish on the cooler side and that does the trick. It is hard to keep humidity in a tank when the top lets everything out. When she is obviously in shed I put a second very small water dish in the middle and it ups the humidity within 10 minutes to where it needs to be. I love my solid top cause the humidity isn't a problem.

ok, I have another dumb question. I keep seeing a lot of acronyms in here and dont have much of a clue as to what they mean. You all have some kind of web site I can visit to find out what I'm missing?

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Originally Posted by Gurgie

ok, I have another dumb question. I keep seeing a lot of acronyms in here and dont have much of a clue as to what they mean. You all have some kind of web site I can visit to find out what I'm missing?

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which ones?
LMAO=laughing my *** off

Yeah, I need to set up a rubbermaid setup so I can get my humidity up. I can get 65% humidity with an open top, but thats about it.

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Originally Posted by Vomitore

Yeah, I need to set up a rubbermaid setup so I can get my humidity up. I can get 65% humidity with an open top, but thats about it.

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as for now Khans big ole glass tank is doing alright. but this month we are getting another BP and Im gonna do the storage bin thing. Im looking into how exactly the set up should work. I cant wait to have one day where Im not messin with all the things trying to get it right. :P

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Originally Posted by 4Khan

as for now Khans big ole glass tank is doing alright. but this month we are getting another BP and Im gonna do the storage bin thing. Im looking into how exactly the set up should work. I cant wait to have one day where Im not messin with all the things trying to get it right. :P

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you can get great deals on everything you will need for a setup.

if you are thinking of getting more ball pyhtons, i would highly suggest a rack setup. a nice proportional thermostat like a helix and a rack will do you and your snake good. racks are easy to setup and the balls do really well in them. check out these sites for racks


www.herpenclosures.com

http://market.kingsnake.com/detail.php?cat=22&de=394088

http://www.animalplastics.com/

www.herpcages.com



vaughn

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Originally Posted by Gurgie

ok, I have another dumb question. I keep seeing a lot of acronyms in here and dont have much of a clue as to what they mean. You all have some kind of web site I can visit to find out what I'm missing?

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Here ya go. I found a translator for ya. If you have a question on any specific ones just ask. ;)

http://www.netlingo.com/emailsh.cfm

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Originally Posted by 4Khan

as for now Khans big ole glass tank is doing alright. but this month we are getting another BP and Im gonna do the storage bin thing. Im looking into how exactly the set up should work. I cant wait to have one day where Im not messin with all the things trying to get it right. :P

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Me too! I got alot of things I want to do this weekend. Just not enough hours in the day.

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Originally Posted by Vomitore

Me too! I got alot of things I want to do this weekend. Just not enough hours in the day.

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your telling me....I gotta paint the bathroom this weekend and fix a toilet among the many other things i do each weekend (i.e. clean the house, laundry visit family).

i need a vacation!

Cassandra, how did you fix the plexiglass to the screen on top of the tank?

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Originally Posted by Gurgie

Cassandra, how did you fix the plexiglass to the screen on top of the tank?

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It just sits inside the metal lip holding the screen. It's mostly a tight fit, but then we don't turn the screen lid upside down either.

http://www.onlinethingy.com/files/cleoweb/cage4.jpg

http://www.onlinethingy.com/files/cleoweb/cage5.jpg

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Originally Posted by 4Khan

which ones?
LMAO=laughing my *** off

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no, no *grin* I *know* that one
I meant like CHE and others of that sort. It like you all are speaking a foreign language or something *grin*

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Originally Posted by tigerlily

Here ya go. I found a translator for ya. If you have a question on any specific ones just ask. ;)

http://www.netlingo.com/emailsh.cfm

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ah, excellent! :)

thank you so much...I really apreciate it that you all take the time to help people like me out. its really nice.

Cassandra, thanks for the info. your set-up looks really nice. I showed my fiancee last night and told him "THIS is what I need" ! lol

CHE is a ceramic heating element. It's like a heat lamp, but emits heat and no light.

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