new viv's

okay, so rather than taking over greenmonkey's thread...

here's the viv's i just set up. i'm going to add some pieces of driftwood into the red eyed tree frog enclosure...

http://www.timelessspirit.com/images...deyedfeb06.jpg

and this one has the water in the bottom... a few danios will go in there... and i have vines and plants for the reticulated tree frogs and anoles.

http://www.timelessspirit.com/images...reticfeb06.jpg

so anyone know... are these good to go or do i need to do something different with them?

both have lights on them... red eyes have a 60 watt light and the retics have a 100 watt light. (for warmth and for the plants to thrive)

Those are gorgeous! I don't know about the husbandry needs or if anything needs fixing or changing.....but they sure do look nice!!!

well i've been trying to find husbandry needs on them and am coming up empty handed :( i've found stuff on the red eyed tree frogs but not the reticulated... if that's even the right name (you know how pet stores are... sometimes something comes in under a name... )

well, i'll give them a tropical care and hope it's appropriate. man i hate being undereducated when it comes to caring for my critters :(

for the red eye enclosure make sure the lamp doesn't heat it up too much. anything over about 82 for prolonged periods is too hot for them. you might want to take temp readings at the top of the enclosure on the glass, because chances are high that they will often sleep there and it will be warmer there as opposed to other places in the tank. also make sure you have a constant clean water source--i can't tell if you have one or not from the pic. i use a square but short rubbermaid container--i think its made for sandwiches.

for the other enclosure make sure your lamp provides UVA and UVB for the anoles. i don't know about the frogs but the anoles definitely need it.

both tanks look great! :)

yes i have clean water... in the waterfall as well as a little container in the bottom :)

oooh i see the waterfall now. :) i had one of those in with my red eyes for a while and i really liked it, but it ended up being kind of a pain to keep clean. they tend to defecate in their water so you have to change it out every few days. i'd imagine cleaning will be a bit easier with the enclosure you have since it opens in the front as opposed to the mega tall aquarium that i am using. i'd like to get one of the exoterra eventually for my red eyes too.

okay so you have red eyes... i AM worried about getting these ones... cause they are so tiny - 1/2" so i wonder if i should not get them after all.

i so deserve this you know... normally i do so much reading on anything before i buy it... and this time, for some stupid reason (well i know the reason... the petstore is a ways away so i picked up the vivs while i was there... {and they were a really good price})

so now i'm sitting and doing my research and finding that some sites say not to buy the red eyes smaller than 1" and these captive bred guys are half that size.

i'm also concerned about the size of the viv. 12x12x18 - i was going to get 4 red eyes but now i realize i should only get 2 for this viv.

so i'm wondering if i should get something else for this viv...

and then the larger viv... i can't mix breeds... so i'm just going to put the frogs in it... these ones are much larger and i'm not too worried about their care. i have firebelly toads and a pacman frog... so i think i can handle them. i can't find any caresheets at all on them.

i got all of my red eyes when they were adults or very close to it, however if you are sure you are getting cb frogs you may be ok getting smaller/younger ones. my experience is that you either get a hardy, healthy frog or you get a weaker one that doesn't seem to thrive quite as well and when this is the case it usually does not reverse and the frog eventually dies regardless of special treatment/feeding/housing etc. that being said i also believe that at least some of my red eyes were wild caught and that may have a lot to do with it. i think perhaps this is why some consider red eyes to be delicate--some seem to be but others are totally fine and thrive with no issues whatsoever. i guess the trick is lucking out and getting hardy ones on the first try. again, this is probably much easier if you get cb frogs to start with.

as a general rule you should have 5 gallons of space per red eye, so it would probably be best just housing 2 in the enclosure that you have.

okay... i think i'll have them hold the red eyes at the pet store till they get a little bigger and then i'll know if they are hardy ;)

thanks so much for sharing with me!

okay my plans have changed... so this is the newly updated version of what i'm hoping to do.... any comments or suggestions are VERY welcome!!!

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Originally Posted by recycling goddess

here's the viv's i just set up. it's going to house a crested gecko...

http://www.timelessspirit.com/images...deyedfeb06.jpg

and this one has the water in the bottom... a few danios will go in there... and i have vines and plants for 4 red eyed tree frog

http://www.timelessspirit.com/images...reticfeb06.jpg

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okay so the larger viv 18x18x24 isn't going to have tree frogs in it. at this point... all it has is some endlers and plants... obviously 4" of water in the bottom for the endlers.

what do you suggest i put in it? will anoles be okay with a watery bottom? anyone think of anything that will work well.

i've checked out salamanders, newts, dart frogs, water frogs and one of them seem to be what i'm looking for. i want something which will be aboreal for the most part and not need 'ground space'. AND something which, from the time of purchase can live in this enclosure and not need to be 'grown up' in another viv for a length of time.

so... any ideas?

a baby water dragon will work in that viv, but it wil need one alot larger when it is and adult.
let me think some more....
white's tree frog,monkey frogs, red eyes. the red eyes are not hard to keep at all, i had one and i just fed it crickets mainly and sometimes mealworms.


vaughn

the breeder and the reptile expert at my lfs says that the 1/2" red eyes wouldn't do well in such a large viv - not until they are full grown and that would be 6-12 months (they are 2 months old right now) so that's why i'm not getting them. i don't want to set up another viv to grow them up.

they are concerned that they won't find their food (although i sugggested putting the crickets in a bin within the viv and they could climb in for their food) they thought the bucket idea was a good one... but still didn't feel the frogs should go into that size of a viv.

unfortunately i bought the viv and then found this out... so now i'm trying to find something to fill it :(

could the white's or monkeys be in the viv right away or will they need to be grown up as well?

my red eye was a sub adult. i didn't know you were thinking little babies. for little ones i would use a critter keeper until big enough for a nice size viv. you could grow up some nice plants and moss in the viv, and feed the heck out of some babies frogs in the meantime. dart frogs are cool the fruit fly cultures take a little work and patience.

well here's an update:

we decided to get four red eyes... and they are in a different viv... letting them grow up before putting them in a larger viv 18x18x24 - they are sooooo cute!

:D

where did you get those vivs at, i want a new one for my frogs. The one with the water is awesome.

they are exo-terra (hagen) and i bought them from a local petstore :)

so.... we ended up putting three anoles and our two firebelly toads in the 18x18x24 viv... everyone is doing great. with endlers (fish) in the bottom.

we got another one the same size and put in three green tree frogs.

the other smaller vivs are holding the crested geckos and the other holds the 4 red eyed tree frogs.

man, i'm such an addict...

wanders off aimlessly...