Caramel Albinos

I know caramel albinos are their own morph but I have questions. Can I make my own caramel albino from 2 diff morphs? I assume a regular albino is involved and what would the other one be? Caramel albinos ROCK

You got my attention real quick with that title! Caramels are my fav too! :love: (I'm gonna make some in the near future!!)

They are their own morph. It's not a combination. ;)

in the future i hope to get a pair of het hypos and a pair of het caramel albinos and breeding there offspring to make caramel glows!! they totally rock!!!

I am certainly no expert and would welcome the correction, but I "believe" that if you breed the het hypo offspring with the het caramel offspring, you'll get double hets and would have to have a 3rd generation from the original for a chance to see a caramel glow. If I understand correctly. I may be WAY off though! LOL

sorry, i think i got my words mixed around. i ment breed the het hypos to make a male or female hypo and breed the het caramel albinos to make a male or female caramel albino and then breed the male or female hypo with the male or female caramel albino.

Hypo is co-dominant. A 'het' hypo IS a hypo.

Caramel albinos are a tyrosinase positive albino.. versus the 'normal' albino being a T- or tyrosinase negative albino. Tyrosinase allows the body to synthesize melanin (black pigment), therefore T+ albinos are typically darker in color from T- albinos.

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Originally Posted by Shelby

Hypo is co-dominant. A 'het' hypo IS a hypo.

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Are you sure? I'm pretty sure they're recessives based on my conversations with both Adam and RDR.

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Originally Posted by Shelby

Hypo is co-dominant. A 'het' hypo IS a hypo.

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Not in ball pythons.

-adam

lol, shelb. i think you've been around to many different types of herps.

Oh well. lol I'm stuck on milk snakes or something.

You're right, Mr Python. I am exhausted from work too.. doesn't do good things for the old brain.

(Off topic for a sec..) Hypomelanastic (Ghost) is a Simple Recessive trait.

(Back on topic..) You're still talking about three generations (at least) to get to a double homozygous animal from two pairs of hets.

Gen 1 = Het Hypo x Het Hypo & Het Caramel x Het Caramel (hopefully yeild 1.1 homozygous Hypo's and Caramels from each clutch..)

Gen 2 = Hypo x Caramel = 2.2 DH Caramel Glow

Gen 3 = DH CG x DH CG = 1/16 Caramel Glow, 3/16 Caramel Poss Het Hypo, 3/16 Hypo Poss Het Caramel, 9/16 Normal Poss Het Hypo, Poss Het Caramel

So if you luck out with your odds and hit the double homozygous on that third generation's first breeding, then we're only talking about 8 to 9 years.

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Originally Posted by ddbjdealer

So if you luck out with your odds and hit the double homozygous on that third generation's first breeding, then we're only talking about [b

8 to 9 years[/b].

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Is that all? ;)

But it's SOOO worth it!! :psychotic

I've always loved "some assembly required" so recessives are right up my alley! LOL

I'm not a patient person by nature, so recessives are just torture! But apparently I'm a masochist. :imslow:

I thought there is a codominant hypo ball python......AKA Fireball ;)

Caramels are awesome......they are beautiful in their own.....and have great combo potential like caramel glows and caramel pastels.....I hope that we get to see caramel pieds soon.

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Originally Posted by daniel1983

I thought there is a codominant hypo ball python......AKA Fireball ;)

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LOL ... those guys need to make up their minds ... can't have your cake and eat it too ya know! :P

-adam