100% het albino and a normal breeding

I would really like to produce some albinos for 2007. I have a normal male that would be ready to breed. If I got a 100% het albino female and bred it to my normal male, what babies would I get? I would get half %50 hets, and half visible albinos right? I would get the same result if I bred a normal female to a male 100% het albino right? Please I need your help.

That's not correct. If you bred a 100% Het Albino x Normal, the resulting clutch would yield ALL 50% poss hets for albino. In other words, you don't really know whether each one if a 100% het for sure until you prove them out. Basically, if you are looking to get an albino in 2007, you'll need a male that is 100% het for albino and a female that is 100% het for albino- and even then, its still a big roll of the dice. The only sure way to make an albino in the first clutch is to cross two visible albinos.

Check this out http://www.newenglandreptile.com/gen...recessive.html for more info.

I second the info above my post.Even if you buy a pair of 100% het albino pair it would be a couple years before they are able to breed.

What you could do is breed a 100% albino, to a 100% het, and get 50% het albinos, and 50% albinos theoretically speaking, or on the long run breed a 100% albino to a normal bp, then youd get 100% hets, then breed those to the 100% albino parent. Thats the only way youd be sure of what youre getting.
Or you could take your chances, breed 100% het x 100% het, so you would have 25% albino, 50% hets, and 25% normal, that is as elevatethis said a big roll of the dice, but its much less money spent, you could get a pair of hets for less than $1000, and a visible albino would cost you bout $2000, so it really depends on how much are you willing to spend.

Thanks that realy clears things up. I can get a pair of hets from topshelf exotics for 600 right now delivered. If I ordered those this year could I breed them for 2008? And now that I think more about it, before spending all that money on hets I should successfully breed some normals first. So 2008 it is. Thanks again

You might be able to breed them in 2008. It all depends on the female being up to size...it generally takes 2-3 years for a female to reach breeding size. Then you just have to hit the odds.

I would buy a het female this year and a het male next...although when you buy pairs you are basically getting the male for free. Females take so long to raise...so they determine when you will be breeding.

I would by the hets now...and start growing up the female.

OK. I really gotta get another job. (I just got done selling christmas trees) and a job is harder have when you are 14. Im gonna get that het female ASAP. At the very latest july. I'm thinking more like marchish. Have any of you ever ordered from www.topshelfexotics.com ? They look reputable and are all over kingsnake, but I want a real opinion. This is great info

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Originally Posted by avd88

What you could do is breed a 100% albino, to a 100% het, and get 50% het albinos, and 50% albinos theoretically speaking

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Actually, if you bred a visable albino to a 100% het, then you'd get half 100% hets and half albinos. There wouldn't be any 50%'ers. Same with breeding Albino to normal, you'd get 100% hets.

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Originally Posted by ddbjdealer

Actually, if you bred a visable albino to a 100% het, then you'd get half 100% hets and half albinos. There wouldn't be any 50%'ers. Same with breeding Albino to normal, you'd get 100% hets.

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He said that half will be hets, and half will be visibles. He is right

I purchased a female 100% het albino from TSE last month on a $100 per week payment plan. I havent got her yet due to the cold weather but im being patient :) They are very comunicative and a pleasure to deal with. I recomend them!

JT

That is a sweet payment plan. How much interest do you have to pay?

No interest just a 25% deposit and a plan that they will work out for you. Email sales@topshelfexotic.com and I'm sure they can answer all you questions =)

JT

awesome thanks alot. That can probably get me the snake like 2 months faster

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Originally Posted by ddbjdealer

Actually, if you bred a visable albino to a 100% het, then you'd get half 100% hets and half albinos. There wouldn't be any 50%'ers. Same with breeding Albino to normal, you'd get 100% hets.

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I meant the offsprings, half of them will be hets and half albinos, but its just like flipping a coin, you could get all heads, all tails, half and half, etc.

Sorry, I was half asleep when I read/responded...

I have an order in from TSE and they have been great so far, i have not received my snakes yet due to cold weather. i spent $2000 on 1.1 100% het Pied for $1500 and 1.1 100% het Albino for $500
this is the sale they had going on. he gave me $99 off for ordering both from him.
1.1 100% Heterozygous High Contrast Albinos Pairs, $650 ON SALE $599 FREE SHIPPING

1.1 100% Heterozygous Pieds Pairs, $1650 ON SALE $1500 FREE SHIPPING

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Sorry, I was half asleep when I read/responded...

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Lol, that has happend to me before, hey you live in Tucson, my father is living there and Im probably moving over there my last highschool semester.

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Lol, that has happend to me before, hey you live in Tucson, my father is living there and Im probably moving over there my last highschool semester.

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Cool, if you stay in town for a while, you'll have Southern Arizona's premeir BP breeder in right in town! :)

Good luck with your last semester of HS!

:DThis is exactly the type of info I've been looking for - for some time now. The punnet square shed some serious light with respects to breeding designers. The original plan (this year) was to get my hands on a Pastel Jungle and a 100% Het for Albino. This is no longer the case. I am planning on getting a pair of Pastels and taking it from there. This is far from my breeding norm days (12 yrs ago). Thanks to all contributers for the wealth of knowledge this forum delivers. I hope 2007 - 2008 will be the year of "Super Pastels" for my family and I.


Tony...