Not sure exactly what I have.

I bought this from a herp show. The breeder wasn’t exactly sure what it was. I know it is a piebald.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...4ea2be0117.jpg


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What you have is beautiful.


But for real... Did they tell you what morphs are in the parents? Because otherwise it's not really something you would know for sure unless you were to breed them and see.
People can take a lot of guesses but the only way to really narrow it down is knowing what genes the parents had

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I’m not looking to breed him he’s my pet, he eats great and has a good temperament. He just stood out of the thousands of snake I looked at, I have people ask me what morph of ball python he is but the breeder said she wasn’t exactly sure it was her first time breeding.


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Seems to me that you already have the answer.

Sorry, I just didn’t know what possible het clown was. I looked up the terms, but I wasn’t sure if this a pied clown or possible pied clown. If this was your snake and someone asked you what kind of ball python it was, what would you say?


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I’d tell them it’s a piebald 100% het albino and possible het clown.

Het means heterozygous = one copy of a recessive genetic trait. One of its parents was albino and passed a single copy of that mutation which does not express itself visually.

Possible het means one of the parents was heterozygous for clown and there is a possibility the offspring inherited a single copy, which also would not present itself visually.

Time to do some research into Mendelian genetics and work through some punnet squares.

The short version of the above is you can just say "Pied" when people ask what he is. The other genes honestly don't affect much because they can't be seen.

He has a nice 50/50 look to him though! The way pied affects the markings is so unique and hard to really see when the white is more broken across the body.

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I’d tell them it’s a piebald 100% het albino and possible het clown.

Het means heterozygous = one copy of a recessive genetic trait. One of its parents was albino and passed a single copy of that mutation which does not express itself visually.

Possible het means one of the parents was heterozygous for clown and there is a possibility the offspring inherited a single copy, which also would not present itself visually.

Time to do some research into Mendelian genetics and work through some punnet squares.

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would this specimen be considered “double Het” or “poss triple Het”?

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would this specimen be considered “double Het” or “poss triple Het”?

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No, it would not

Thank you so much.


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No, it would not

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is it because the morphs are comparable or complimentary as opposed to our previous Kahl/T+ Albino discussion?

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is it because the morphs are comparable or complimentary as opposed to our previous Kahl/T+ Albino discussion?

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I'm not trying to hijack the OP's thread so keeping this short and sweet. The animal is listed as 100% het albino. It is not guaranteed het for anything else. Add the numbers up and you'll understand why it can't be double or triple het. Time for you to do some research into Mendelian genetics and work through some punnett squares.

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I'm not trying to hijack the OP's thread so keeping this short and sweet. The animal is listed as 100% het albino. It is not guaranteed het for anything else. Add the numbers up and you'll understand why it can't be double or triple het. Time for you to do some research into Mendelian genetics and work through some punnett squares.

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i didn’t mean to offend - i was just curious and seeing the OP being seemingly satisfied in the previous responses, just thought to ask and didn’t think it would be a grave imposition - thank you for your input

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Thanks for all the feedback, he’s a eating machine and I’m giving him a larger enclosure. I’m moving him into a 40 gallon enclosure next week. After that I’m investing in a 4 foot enclosure. Please feel free to post your setup and recommendations here.


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He’s a beautiful pied. If anyone asks, I’d say he’s a pied. If you were to breed/sell, then it’s important to know he’s pied het albino poss het clown. You would never know if he had clown unless you prove it out by breeding, though. Regardless…those are some good genes. 😊