Ball Python escape, could he have gotten out of the house?

My ball python was last scene in his tank last night. I felt like something was wrong this evening and asked my partner to check on him - he had escaped from his tank, it must have been sometime before this afternoon as I sprayed his tank to up humidity - and then closed the door. I can't remember if the door of the tank was closed properly or not when I got there. We have searched all the nooks and crannies of the house and can't find him.

The issue is that the back door has been open for a lot of today and we're fearing that he may have left the house and be gone forever. My HOPE was that him being nocturnal, he wouldn't leave the house while it's bright and sunny outside - but I really have no experience with this situation. I have moved his tank on the floor, - with the doors open in the hopes that he is drawn to the ceramic heat emmiter, and I have set up flour trails that he can disturb, and left his water just outside the tank.

How likely is it that he would have escaped out of the back? I checked the garden, behind the shed and under some of the rubble, and checked the neighbours garden and shed and wasn't able to find him, although thats not to say he couldn't have also escaped the garden.

Thank you in advance for the help. We've had him a year in two weeks time and have never dealt with an escape before.

Well first of all, don't give up!

How far was his tank from the fresh outside air (open doors)? In my experience, snakes ARE drawn to fresh outside air, but BPs usually lay low during daylight hours & move around during the "cover" of darkness. They also don't often travel far, so LOOK in all the nooks & crannies: under beds, & under & in couch cushions, gaps under kitchen & bathroom cupboards, in laundry baskets full of clothes and empty out your closets, because they often end up in there. Upholstered furniture including beds often have tears in the fabric on their underside, or stitching gaps in the crevices under cushions- so look before you sit. Stay up late in semi-darkness & LISTEN for him too.

Snakes are far better at "hide & seek" than we are- most of us have found out the hard way :D & most of us find our snakes unharmed, not counting our stress & sleepless nights. Hang in there.

Good luck!

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Originally Posted by Bogertophis

Well first of all, don't give up!

How far was his tank from the fresh outside air (open doors)? In my experience, snakes ARE drawn to fresh outside air, but BPs usually lay low during daylight hours & move around during the "cover" of darkness. They also don't often travel far, so LOOK in all the nooks & crannies: under beds, & under & in couch cushions, gaps under kitchen & bathroom cupboards, in laundry baskets full of clothes and empty out your closets, because they often end up in there. Upholstered furniture including beds often have tears in the fabric on their underside, or stitching gaps in the crevices under cushions- so look before you sit. Stay up late in semi-darkness & LISTEN for him too.

Snakes are far better at "hide & seek" than we are- most of us have found out the hard way :D & most of us find our snakes unharmed, not counting our stress & sleepless nights. Hang in there.

Good luck!

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Hi, the back door is about 15 feet from the tank, we have the living room, then two glass doors that lead to an extension and then there is the kitchen which is about 6/7 feet between him and the door. I'm in the UK so the temperature outside was 22C/72F at its highest today

my in-laws have been in our living room basically all day, and the sofa they watch TV on is inbetween the tank and garden - and neither of them spotted him - and I'm telling myself that he's be more inclined to hide behind furniture that is closer to him - the issue is that we moved EVERYTHING and couldn't find him - so my feeling is that if he is in the house, he's probably been drivne further into hiding.

We've also looked upstairs, too, we knew it was a long shot but he could have potentially had hours to travel around.

I'm going to stay downstairs in the living room tonight, his tank's got the door open and the bowl of water is just outside - I've defrosted a rat to see if that could lure him, we also turned off the mouse repellent, because we thought it might be better to have the mouse we're trying to scare off still IN the house - on the off chance the snake finds it, in which case we'd probably find him.

- is there any other pro tips?

Thank you so much for the help on such short notice, I'm of course quite stressed but my S.O. is devastated over it

The good news is that is a ball python. A Milk Snake would have already rented a car, booked a plane ticket and be half-way back to its country by now....

Ball python playbook: First day of escape---Hide ASAP somewhere dark and don't move until you are hungry!

-Imagine a fifteen foot radius around his tank, now check every nook and cranny (even really small ones that seem physically impossible to get into). If you have a hole in the wall nearby or radiator pipes that have gaps through the floor--that is bad news.

-They are also adept climbers-so don't forget to check elevated spots that they can wedge their body into (e.g. behind books on a shelf, inside clothes on a hanger, on the upper top edge of a cabinet etc)...

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Originally Posted by Lord Sorril

The good news is that is a ball python. A Milk Snake would have already rented a car, booked a plane ticket and be half-way back to its country by now....

Ball python playbook: First day of escape---Hide ASAP somewhere dark and don't move until you are hungry!

-Imagine a fifteen foot radius around his tank, now check every nook and cranny (even really small ones that seem physically impossible to get into). If you have a hole in the wall nearby or radiator pipes that have gaps through the floor--that is bad news.

-They are also adept climbers-so don't forget to check elevated spots that they can wedge their body into (e.g. behind books on a shelf, inside clothes on a hanger, on the upper top edge of a cabinet etc)...

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Thank you! I think I'm getting a better understanding of what he might have done

So, 15' from the door isn't very far- he might have headed outside, so I'd look there too, but no way I can tell you what HE decided. They've been found deep under substrate in their own enclosures (never having left) or right BEHIND their own cages, as well as every other possible place- snakes often head behind dressers/cabinets, & find ways up into drawers etc. Most anything is possible- but think positive.

I once had a snake (a bull snake, & they're a species that brumates in winter) that got loose when I was distracted by a long late-night phone call, when I was in the middle of cleaning her tank. When I got off the phone, I was very sleepy & figured she was in a secure container & could wait until morning. She couldn't & didn't- she pushed her way out of her temporary cage (boy did I underestimate her strength!) & she disappeared for 6 months (!) from mid-Nov. until the following mid-May- brumating happily, as it turned out, under kitchen cabinets where I suspected she was but couldn't reach. I had searched everywhere else, & one day there she was on my kitchen floor, looking for food. Now the downside is that BPs don't really brumate, & tend to get sick with chilly temperatures, whereas bull snakes are quite resilient. But no matter how long it takes (most snakes are found sooner) don't give up. ;) (IF there's any gaps into your walls, like around plumbing pipes in bathrooms or kitchens, do your best to plug them up- the LAST thing you want is a snake getting into your walls.)

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The good news is that is a ball python. A Milk Snake would have already rented a car, booked a plane ticket and be half-way back to its country by now....

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:rofl: Oh that is SOOOOO true! :rofl:

Colubrids are MUCH faster- ask me how I know- :rolleyes: My TX longnose snake had a brief excursion a few years back- in NO time at all, he was in my closet in another bedroom. (Longnose snakes are very similar to milk snakes & small king snakes.)

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Originally Posted by Bogertophis

So, 15' from the door isn't very far- he might have headed outside, so I'd look there too, but no way I can tell you what HE decided. They've been found deep under substrate in their own enclosures (never having left) or right BEHIND their own cages, as well as every other possible place- snakes often head behind dressers/cabinets, & find ways up into drawers etc. Most anything is possible- but think positive.

I once had a snake (a bull snake, & they're a species that brumates in winter) that got loose when I was distracted by a long late-night phone call, when I was in the middle of cleaning her tank. When I got off the phone, I was very sleepy & figured she was in a secure container & could wait until morning. She couldn't & didn't- she pushed her way out of her temporary cage (boy did I underestimate her strength!) & she disappeared for 6 months (!) from mid-Nov. until the following mid-May- brumating happily, as it turned out, under kitchen cabinets where I suspected she was but couldn't reach. I had searched everywhere else, & one day there she was on my kitchen floor, looking for food. Now the downside is that BPs don't really brumate, & tend to get sick with chilly temperatures, whereas bull snakes are quite resilient. But no matter how long it takes (most snakes are found sooner) don't give up. ;) (IF there's any gaps into your walls, like around plumbing pipes in bathrooms or kitchens, do your best to plug them up- the LAST thing you want is a snake getting into your walls.)

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Yeah, I searched all the garden but didn't find him - I may have to go back out there and move all the rubble again, when I banged the rubble there was no sound of anything moving or trying to run away - my fear really is that we have foxes in the area. Hopefully it hasn't come to that though.

I can't tell you what you should do, so I'll tell you what I did. When my bp escaped the first time, I looked in all the nooks and crannies starting at his enclosure. Ultimately, I found him in my daughter's closet at the far end of our apartment. Somehow a big fat adult python managed to traverse the length of my apartment without anyone noticing. All the clamps were still in place on his enclosure, so, as improbable as it seemed, I assumed he dashed to freedom in the moments it took me to fill his water bowl. The very next night after I filled his water bowl I made absolutely certain that he was in the enclosure before I closed and clamped it down. A few hours later my son wakes me. He scared. There's a monster in his room. I laid down with him to help him sleep and I too heard noises. I thought no wonder he's scared. That couldn't be my bp again. Could it? When my son got up to go to the bathroom, I decided to check on my bp. All the clamps were in place but he was gone. Of course, he was in my son's room right beside his bed. How he got out remains a mystery.

My bp passed away, but unfortunately all snakes are escape artists, so, just recently, my Children's python escaped. He crawled under my couch. I waited for him to crawl out again. When I tired of waiting, I went to check on him and he was gone. I searched all the nooks and crannies to no avail. After everyone went to sleep, I crumpled newspaper and laid in across all the thresholds in my apartment in the hopes that I would hear him crawl across them and waited. Fell asleep around midnight but got up hourly to check the newspapers. None were disturbed. The next day I went to work. At 3 pm, my wife called. She found him in the laundry cart. I had checked the laundry cart, but I believe he just blended in too well with the clothes for me to see him.

I share these stories to give you hope. They do tend to turn up. Good luck.

Thank you! Honestly I think what has scared us is the open back door all day - but I just gotta hope that's not the case.

It's quite late here, so I'm going to let the room be dark for a while, then I'm gonna try braining a defrosted rat and seeing if it lures him out - if he turns up I'll let you all know - but please do send any more advice or ideas

Scanning this thread, I didn't catch a mention of the fact that snakes loose in a house often head for warmth -- so under the fridge or other appliances that generate heat are good places to carefully look. One of my adult rainbow boas escaped a couple years ago (slid the glass AP cage door open -- locks on them now) and just curled up under a snake rack.

My most memorable colubrid escape was a just purchased micropholis hatchling that slipped the cage and crawled into the attached garage that butts up against the basement reptile room. He somehow got into an empty 5 gallon bucket and wasn't quite large enough to get out, so he was recaptured and to this day I don't give him any chance to repeat the trick.

Anyway, it sounds like you've got a lot of good plans in place for locating him -- I think you'll find him. :)

Might also try picking up a live mouse or two and leaving them in a wire cage on the floor, if the other methods don't work. Sometimes I find that the sounds and scents of live rodents get their attention best, depending on the snake. Awkward to say, but kind of like how some dogs react strongly to squeaky toys and others don't. Still squeaky, just not a toy...

Okay it's morning, there was no trace of movement in the flour, the rat is still uneaten and there's still no sign of him.

Part of me is worried he wouldn't be able to take the cold, it got down to 16 degrees celsius in the night - when we checked behind the furniture fridge etc last night there was no trace of him at all, so I'm genuinely not sure he's even in the house

After another check this morning, he really doesn't appear to be anywhere in the living room, not behind or under any furniture - have any of you had this experience?

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After another check this morning, he really doesn't appear to be anywhere in the living room, not behind or under any furniture - have any of you had this experience?

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I already shared my most recent experience with losing my Children's python, but I'll expand on it. I believe my snake was in the laundry cart the whole time. None of the newspaper I spread out was disturbed because he never moved. The thing is that I looked in that cart. It was one of the first places that I looked. I believe that I didn't see him because he camouflaged so well with all the clothes and because, at the time, I was frantic. I looked right at him, but I didn't see him. He was invisible to me.

So, I advise you to try and calm down. Take a nap. Eat a good meal. Looking for a snake is like one of those hidden pictures puzzles where you have to find the toothbrush or fire hydrant in a picture of a jungle. It's easy enough in the waiting room of your pediatrician's office. Much more difficult when your house is burning down around you.

You bp may never be found. I think it's important to accept that fact in order to get past it. Sometimes, they don't come back, but don't despair because usually they do.

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Might also try picking up a live mouse or two and leaving them in a wire cage on the floor, if the other methods don't work. Sometimes I find that the sounds and scents of live rodents get their attention best, depending on the snake. Awkward to say, but kind of like how some dogs react strongly to squeaky toys and others don't. Still squeaky, just not a toy...

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CAUTION- if you try this, it can be deadly for the snake. Yes, the scent might attract the snake, but snakes have been known to get stuck between the wire bars of cages trying to get at the occupant (bird or rodent) & they can die trying, because the animal inside is going to attack the snake & may do enough damage to kill it (if the cage itself doesn't). DO NOT USE a wire cage- but a plastic-type one with secure snap-on top- the kind with very narrow slits for ventilation that NOTHING can crawl thru, much less get stuck in. ;)

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Okay it's morning, there was no trace of movement in the flour, the rat is still uneaten and there's still no sign of him.

Part of me is worried he wouldn't be able to take the cold, it got down to 16 degrees celsius in the night - when we checked behind the furniture fridge etc last night there was no trace of him at all, so I'm genuinely not sure he's even in the house

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If your house is cold- remember that floors are colder than higher up- your snake will either be hiding near a source of warmth- something like the running motor UNDER your refrigerator- which can be VERY dangerous for a snake- or he'll be too chilly to move around much at all. Keep looking- many times loose snakes are not found for a few days or more- you've only just started. I get your frustration- most of us have been there, & once you have, you'll be much more motivated to never allow a snake to escape again.

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If your house is cold- remember that floors are colder than higher up- your snake will either be hiding near a source of warmth- something like the running motor UNDER your refrigerator- which can be VERY dangerous for a snake- or he'll be too chilly to move around much at all. Keep looking- many times loose snakes are not found for a few days or more- you've only just started. I get your frustration- most of us have been there, & once you have, you'll be much more motivated to never allow a snake to escape again.

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Also don't forget that ball pythons can climb! Especially the males. If your little guy had the desire to crawl around and escape, it's likely he also was inclined to climb up high somewhere. Could he have possibly found his way back into his enclosure and buried himself? I had that happen with my boyfriend's White's tree frogs when I was "frog sitting" once. He turned up in his tank the next morning.

Hi everyone I just wanted to update you all - we found him safe and sound. He had found a back passageway behind our kitchen sink, fridge, draws etc and was hiding behind a layer of insulation - he was cold but okay - i'm just gonna keep an eye on him and if he needs we'll take him to a vet.


Thank you all so much for your help, the panic is now over!

Congrats! They truly don’t travel far from their enclosures.

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Thank you all so much for your help, the panic is now over!

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That is absolutely the best way to end the panic. I'm so happy for you.

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That is absolutely the best way to end the panic. I'm so happy for you.

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Thanks a bunch to you and everyone else! We're going to see how he goes for a lil while, and take him to our local reptile shop so they can check to see if he's healthy and if they're worried or we see a change we'll take him to the vet - I'm sure he's fine but he has been in a dirty space for the last day

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Thanks a bunch to you and everyone else! We're going to see how he goes for a lil while, and take him to our local reptile shop so they can check to see if he's healthy and if they're worried or we see a change we'll take him to the vet - I'm sure he's fine but he has been in a dirty space for the last day

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If there's nothing obviously wrong with him, I'd just leave him alone. His little adventure was stressful enough. I wouldn't add the stress of a trip if I could avoid it.

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Thanks a bunch to you and everyone else! We're going to see how he goes for a lil while, and take him to our local reptile shop so they can check to see if he's healthy and if they're worried or we see a change we'll take him to the vet - I'm sure he's fine but he has been in a dirty space for the last day

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First- wonderful news that you found him so fast!

I wouldn't worry too much about his brief chill- he's probably okay & just keep an eye on him. An RI would show up as open mouth breathing, bubbles in & around the mouth, & noisy breathing (whistling, crackling, wheezing sounds). IF you don't see/hear any of that, I would AVOID taking him to a vet, or especially to a reptile shop, as he could actually pick something up from them. :colbert:

He needs most to de-stress- let him rest for a week without handling- stress lowers their immune system just as it does ours. Again, so happy you found him quickly. :gj:

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Originally Posted by Bogertophis

CAUTION- if you try this, it can be deadly for the snake. Yes, the scent might attract the snake, but snakes have been known to get stuck between the wire bars of cages trying to get at the occupant (bird or rodent) & they can die trying, because the animal inside is going to attack the snake & may do enough damage to kill it (if the cage itself doesn't). DO NOT USE a wire cage- but a plastic-type one with secure snap-on top- the kind with very narrow slits for ventilation that NOTHING can crawl thru, much less get stuck in. ;)

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To clarify my suggestion of a wire cage, it should be common sense to use a wire mesh that's too small for a snake to have any chance of getting through it or getting stuck in it. I think what is being described above would be a metal bar cage, typically used for larger rodents, rather than a wire cage. Otherwise, it wouldn't hold a mouse in, let alone a ball python out. To keep a mouse inside, the wire needs to have openings 1/4 inch or less.

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To clarify my suggestion of a wire cage, it should be common sense to use a wire mesh that's too small for a snake to have any chance of getting through it or getting stuck in it. I think what is being described above would be a metal bar cage, typically used for larger rodents, rather than a wire cage. Otherwise, it wouldn't hold a mouse in, let alone a ball python out. To keep a mouse inside, the wire needs to have openings 1/4 inch or less.

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I agree- "common sense"- but I felt the need to mention not because I thought you didn't understand, but for anyone else that might get it wrong. I've seen too many people use cages they thought a rodent couldn't get out of or that a snake couldn't get into (things like bird cages where the bars are close together but can still be pushed apart some) & snakes can be motivated enough to hurt themselves trying. That's all I meant. ;)

Thanks guys, gonna leave him be for a while and just keep an eye out for any trouble :) I was just a little worried because he'd been in a place thats dirty - but then again I wouldn't necessarily be sick if I were stuck down there either

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To clarify my suggestion of a wire cage, it should be common sense to use a wire mesh that's too small for a snake to have any chance of getting through it or getting stuck in it. I think what is being described above would be a metal bar cage, typically used for larger rodents, rather than a wire cage. Otherwise, it wouldn't hold a mouse in, let alone a ball python out. To keep a mouse inside, the wire needs to have openings 1/4 inch or less.

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If I had gone for that method, I personally would have used something like this:

https://www.petworlduae.com/uae/webs...290161633a.jpg
because I would have probably kept/given them away as pets. In the UK it's not legal to feed live to snakes (at least that's what I was told) and I'd feel a bit wrong for buying rodents that were meant to be sold as pets and letting my snake kill them lolol - maybe that's inconsistent of me

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If I had gone for that method, I personally would have used something like this:

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...290161633a.jpg
because I would have probably kept/given them away as pets. In the UK it's not legal to feed live to snakes (at least that's what I was told) and I'd feel a bit wrong for buying rodents that were meant to be sold as pets and letting my snake kill them lolol - maybe that's inconsistent of me

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That's not a bad carrier theoretically, but if the situation ever arises, it's not something I would recommend. You would be surprised just how fast a mouse can chew through those slats, or depending on how far apart they are, just squeeze out between them. When I mentioned 1/4", that's the square dimension of the opening - mice can fit through spaces that appear too small for their bones. However, it's even more likely for them to chew through the slats and have plenty of room to get out. That's why I suggested wire, they can't chew through metal unless it's a thread fine enough to bite through. I prefer 1/4" hardware cloth for keeping mice confined. Anything its head can fit through, the body can also fit through.

Incidentally, mice actually make very nice pets. Rats are even better, more intelligent, social and interactive than mice. Unfortunately, they don't have much longevity even in captivity.

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Thanks guys, gonna leave him be for a while and just keep an eye out for any trouble :) I was just a little worried because he'd been in a place thats dirty - but then again I wouldn't necessarily be sick if I were stuck down there either

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I assume you also checked him over to be sure he had no physical wounds- little cuts- from sliding thru sharp edges. (I think you'd have noticed.) Escapes can expose our pets to injuries (including exposure to pesticides or other chemicals), pathogens, and inadequate warmth, so it's really nerve-wracking to have one escape- but most of the time they're okay, as long as they're found in time, & not stuck in a wall or a refrigerator motor.

I once got a yearling Everglades rat snake after she'd been returned* to the pet store that her first owners had gotten her from- she came with quite a history though- they hadn't had her for very long, it seems (I never got a precise time-line but it was under 6 months total) when she'd escaped & finally made her way outside, where she was eventually found. She was very lucky- that was in the desert southwest, nothing like where she belonged -Florida- with lots of moisture. (*It seems her first owners decided snakes weren't a good option for them- that their kids were not up to the responsibility.)

She was a typical rat snake- a little feisty when cornered, & the pet store folks had trouble showing her to re-sell, so she ultimately came home with me, even though I showed them how to approach & pick her up without a bite. :rofl: There's just something scary about even a skinny little rat snake when they bluff with some skill. :D Anyway, when some snakes have a "big adventure" like that, it can also influence their perspective on the world, but she calmed down just fine.

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That's not a bad carrier theoretically, but if the situation ever arises, it's not something I would recommend. You would be surprised just how fast a mouse can chew through those slats, or depending on how far apart they are, just squeeze out between them. When I mentioned 1/4", that's the square dimension of the opening - mice can fit through spaces that appear too small for their bones. However, it's even more likely for them to chew through the slats and have plenty of room to get out. That's why I suggested wire, they can't chew through metal unless it's a thread fine enough to bite through. I prefer 1/4" hardware cloth for keeping mice confined. Anything its head can fit through, the body can also fit through.

Incidentally, mice actually make very nice pets. Rats are even better, more intelligent, social and interactive than mice. Unfortunately, they don't have much longevity even in captivity.

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That's what put me off mice & rats, I had gerbils as a teenager, and they live just long enough to break your heart. After that I decided to admire rodents from a far

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That's what put me off mice & rats, I had gerbils as a teenager, and they live just long enough to break your heart. After that I decided to admire rodents from a far

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Absolutely. I had gerbils, as well, and they have so much personality. Fortunately, you don't have to worry about that problem with snakes - a ball python can live for thirty years or more.

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Absolutely. I had gerbils, as well, and they have so much personality. Fortunately, you don't have to worry about that problem with snakes - a ball python can live for thirty years or more.

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You just have to make sure you can find them, :rofl:

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Thank you! Honestly I think what has scared us is the open back door all day - but I just gotta hope that's not the case.

It's quite late here, so I'm going to let the room be dark for a while, then I'm gonna try braining a defrosted rat and seeing if it lures him out - if he turns up I'll let you all know - but please do send any more advice or ideas

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Can’t see a cold rat luring a Ball Python out

Most of mine will only look at a moving , warmed up target … very few will bother with a cool , stationary food item


I got my escapee back by putting a small fish tank on its side , on the floor , in the corner of the room .. I just put a bowl of water in and a small 7 watt heat mat underneath the tank

I found it fast asleep over the heat mat nearly two WEEKS later !!

Good luck anyways !!!!


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Can’t see a cold rat luring a Ball Python out

Most of mine will only look at a moving , warmed up target … very few will bother with a cool , stationary food item


I got my escapee back by putting a small fish tank on its side , on the floor , in the corner of the room .. I just put a bowl of water in and a small 7 watt heat mat underneath the tank

I found it fast asleep over the heat mat nearly two WEEKS later !!

Good luck anyways !!!!


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The snake was found a week ago. ;)

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Hi everyone I just wanted to update you all - we found him safe and sound. He had found a back passageway behind our kitchen sink, fridge, draws etc and was hiding behind a layer of insulation - he was cold but okay - i'm just gonna keep an eye on him and if he needs we'll take him to a vet.


Thank you all so much for your help, the panic is now over!

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Hi guys! Just a brief update - it's been a few weeks now and he's completely fine - no signs of illness & he's eating like normal. Now it's just my ongoing battle with his vivarium to keep the humidity levels right!