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Champagne???

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  • 02-26-2022, 11:22 PM
    Nakoa
    Champagne???
    Picked this girl up with the group i got Nakoa with, we know she has champagne but iv not seen one with such a clean stripe like hers anyone have any ideas
    or just a nice champagne, she needs to gain weight and was dehydrated when we picked her up
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/NSn92Kd.jpg
  • 02-26-2022, 11:36 PM
    plateOfFlan
    Re: Champagne???
    That looks less like champagne and more like puma or superstripe to me
  • 02-26-2022, 11:37 PM
    Albert Clark
    Re: Champagne???
    Probably Champagne genetic stripe combo. Looks amazing for sure. Congrats!
  • 02-27-2022, 12:18 AM
    Albert Clark
    Re: Champagne???
  • 02-27-2022, 07:30 AM
    Nakoa
    Re: Champagne???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Albert Clark View Post


    I was thinking GS myself as that back stripe is so clean on her for just champagne, I even questioned the guy over her but he had no clue tbh,
    Shes bloody bonkers though had no handling whatsoever.
    But she is super pretty
  • 02-27-2022, 08:39 AM
    Albert Clark
    Re: Champagne???
    Once some others get a look to identify her and get some opinions on what she really is. How old is she?
  • 02-27-2022, 03:46 PM
    nikkubus
    The color and headstamp look right for an older champagne. That stripe could be caused by a number of things. I'm leaning more towards something in YB complex vs GS because of the color saturation being more even on the sides instead of much heavier at the top, as well as the fact GS are much harder to make and not as common. Just a single copy of Specter could achieve a stripe that nice. No way to know for sure without breeding, especially with Champagne in the mix, as they are so variable.

    From the pic she does not look underweight, but I agree she does look dehydrated.
  • 03-01-2022, 01:21 PM
    Nakoa
    Re: Champagne???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nikkubus View Post
    The color and headstamp look right for an older champagne. That stripe could be caused by a number of things. I'm leaning more towards something in YB complex vs GS because of the color saturation being more even on the sides instead of much heavier at the top, as well as the fact GS are much harder to make and not as common. Just a single copy of Specter could achieve a stripe that nice. No way to know for sure without breeding, especially with Champagne in the mix, as they are so variable.

    From the pic she does not look underweight, but I agree she does look dehydrated.

    She was bred from this year apparently, I will upload some pictures of some of those babies i think he sent me some.
    as for underweight i feel she is slightly just for her age as she is 2016 and around 1200 grams its more she needs to gain weight back from last breeding than "skinny" she was out of the group the healthiest

    she does look like something is different with her, il get some better pictures once she starts eating and looks a bit better as currently she is still refusing food. il add pics below..
  • 03-01-2022, 01:24 PM
    Nakoa
  • 03-01-2022, 01:29 PM
    Nakoa
    those are the two I have pictures of, the pairing was the champagne?? above and the male i also have taken was Enchi Pastel?? i say that because the male was also paired to a normal female and 5 babies was born and not 1 from the breeding hatched normal and this was one of the babies from that, the rest of the babies was just Enchi.
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/Rn4me3h.jpg
  • 03-01-2022, 01:36 PM
    Nakoa
    Re: Champagne???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Nakoa View Post
    She was bred from this year apparently, I will upload some pictures of some of those babies i think he sent me some.
    as for underweight i feel she is slightly just for her age as she is 2016 and around 1200 grams its more she needs to gain weight back from last breeding than "skinny" she was out of the group the healthiest

    she does look like something is different with her, il get some better pictures once she starts eating and looks a bit better as currently she is still refusing food. il add pics below..


    I meant Last year lol

    :confusd::confusd:
  • 03-01-2022, 03:50 PM
    nikkubus
    Yes, it does look like she needs to recover from laying. It does look like there is something more going on with the male she was bred to if that last pic came from him x normal, I agree. That male x her's os look like Champagne Enchi and Champagne Enchi Pastel + something, probably in YB complex.


    Here is a Champagne Enchi Pastel Sable YB that looks similar, though not exact
    https://d20zyr0oabjxc2.cloudfront.ne...6E83E65B20C1F4
  • 03-02-2022, 11:50 AM
    Nakoa
    Re: Champagne???
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nikkubus View Post
    Yes, it does look like she needs to recover from laying. It does look like there is something more going on with the male she was bred to if that last pic came from him x normal, I agree. That male x her's os look like Champagne Enchi and Champagne Enchi Pastel + something, probably in YB complex.


    Here is a Champagne Enchi Pastel Sable YB that looks similar, though not exact
    https://d20zyr0oabjxc2.cloudfront.ne...6E83E65B20C1F4


    That's really pretty, am not that up on the champagne genes or what it does when its added to combos other than champagne to champagne is a no no. Im not to sure if i will add her to my breeding group but the male Enchi? he will be.
    I have managed to get pictures of the other babies that came from him and i was told they was all Enchi but looking at the 4 he sent they aint. And i actually have the parents to these so i will repeat this breeding to see if the babies come out the same and to get better quality pictures, will be interesting to see whats going on.

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/OwdXL3I.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/dEeoyuQ.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/VznwIrp.jpghttps://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/UebH4O3.jpg
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