Is this just an enchi or does he have other stuff in him?

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/nPrvJfT.png

He's a very bright colored one with brown spots, the enchis i see online are a very noisy yellow and have black spots.

Oh and he's about 5 months old, a male.

Do you know what the pairing was?

Nikkubus should be along shortly and be able to answer all your prayers, but I'm going to give the suggestion of pastel or fire in the mix there and wait to be corrected.

Doesn't appear to have any fading on the head in the image though so could be waaaaay off the mark with my best guess! DG even? I dunno, just throwing random genes in there now hoping I look like I know :rolleye2: :gj:

But knowing the pairing will surely help those who know better than me to provide you with a more complete answer.

Pretty boy you have there too :gj:

I'm not sure, but i'll ask the seller.

I don't think it's just Enchi. Strong possibility for Lesser or another BEL family morph that is similar. Side pattern wise, Pastel really fits the bill, but color wise and head stamp wise, not so much, so if it's there, it's a weak version.

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Originally Posted by nikkubus

I don't think it's just Enchi. Strong possibility for Lesser or another BEL family morph that is similar. Side pattern wise, Pastel really fits the bill, but color wise and head stamp wise, not so much, so if it's there, it's a weak version.

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I checked with the guy i bought it from and he said the original breeder also gave them enchi mojaves and enchi pastels, but they said they do not know the original pairing.

so it might be an enchi pastel.

I doubt Mojave is in there because that particular BEL complex morph removes a lot of the bottom part of side pattern, but there is a good chance if the breeder works with Mojave, they also work with other BEL morphs. No way to know for sure though what was the pairing was based on other animals that may not even be siblings or half siblings.

If I were to purchase him the first thin I'd pair him with would be some BEL complex morph to test that theory out and see if I got any BELs.

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Originally Posted by nikkubus

I doubt Mojave is in there because that particular BEL complex morph removes a lot of the bottom part of side pattern, but there is a good chance if the breeder works with Mojave, they also work with other BEL morphs. No way to know for sure though what was the pairing was based on other animals that may not even be siblings or half siblings.

If I were to purchase him the first thin I'd pair him with would be some BEL complex morph to test that theory out and see if I got any BELs.

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He's my first pet snake so I couldn't and probably wouldn't breed him, he's too young anyway, but i know that's not what you meant.

But if it helps, he has green eyes, which i've heard is a pastel thing? not sure.

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Originally Posted by felixrocket

He's my first pet snake so I couldn't and probably wouldn't breed him, he's too young anyway, but i know that's not what you meant.

But if it helps, he has green eyes, which i've heard is a pastel thing? not sure.

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Yeah, I wouldn't breed him at his age or without having a lot of information and thinking things through, I just meant if I needed to figure it out for the purpose of breeding. If he would just be a pet, doesn't really matter what he has if you like how he looks, and he is a cutie!

Green eyes can happen from a lot of different things. Pastel tends to cause an olive toned green on its own, but in combos it can be brighter green. As far as I can tell, Enchi by itself doesn't cause green eyes.

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Originally Posted by nikkubus

Yeah, I wouldn't breed him at his age or without having a lot of information and thinking things through, I just meant if I needed to figure it out for the purpose of breeding. If he would just be a pet, doesn't really matter what he has if you like how he looks, and he is a cutie!

Green eyes can happen from a lot of different things. Pastel tends to cause an olive toned green on its own, but in combos it can be brighter green. As far as I can tell, Enchi by itself doesn't cause green eyes.

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I do find him amazingly beautiful, but the green eyes do confirm that he's not just enchi then?
Do you think it is likely that he is an enchi pastel? since he came from the same breeder who bred an enchi pastel

I'm not sold on him having Pastel, but yeah for sure more than just Enchi.

Did you already buy him where you could take a better pic of his head?

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Originally Posted by nikkubus

I'm not sold on him having Pastel, but yeah for sure more than just Enchi.

Did you already buy him where you could take a better pic of his head?

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Yes i can get some pictures of his head, he has a bit of stuck shed on his head currently though due to him shedding in the same week i got him so i got a bit confused because my hygrometer was displaying a broken number, he's gonna shed again this week I think so I hope it gets off then, but if you don't recommend i wait and just try again to get it off I'll do that.

Anyway here's a few pictures of his head

https://imgur.com/a/JoJ9Qlg

From what I can see, if he has any headstamp it's very faint. I'd say pretty low chance of Pastel. Pastels usually have a very obvious butterfly-shaped headstamp as a minimum, sometime almost completely blushes out that top section of the head with help from other morphs.