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  • 09-10-2021, 05:58 AM
    Bleh
    Are females known to scent?
    So last season, I noticed my female 'spotting' her enclosure with little dabs of urate, especially when I put the male in with her (she also did lots of tail wagging when he was near which was interesting to see). I put the dabbing down to either a) scenting, or b) nervousness.

    Now, as the new season fastly approaches here in the UK with temperatures dropping and humidity rising, I'm trying to continue to learn from her and her body language and one thing that's stood out to me is she's been producing more regular spots of urate, although bigger than the dabs I witnessed last year.

    I'll add she's toileting fine too.

    I've had a quick search, but can't say I've found anything definitive so was wondering, is there a chance she's scenting? Is this something other people witness their females doing?

    I do feel she showing signs with slight changes in her behaviour that she's getting ready so considering starting to pair her later this month / from next month.

    As always, your experiences are largely appreciated.
  • 09-10-2021, 01:34 PM
    Snow Balls
    Re: Are females known to scent?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bleh View Post
    So last season, I noticed my female 'spotting' her enclosure with little dabs of urate, especially when I put the male in with her (she also did lots of tail wagging when he was near which was interesting to see). I put the dabbing down to either a) scenting, or b) nervousness.

    Yes they do scent their enclosure when a male is in with them. Its them basically saying "come get me" :rofl: I've never seen my females scent without a male in their tubs
  • 09-10-2021, 01:38 PM
    Bogertophis
    Re: Are females known to scent?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Snow Balls View Post
    ... Its them basically saying "come get me" :rofl: I've never seen my females scent without a male in their tubs

    Perhaps only the "fast ones" do? :rofl:
  • 09-10-2021, 01:47 PM
    Bleh
    Re: Are females known to scent?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Snow Balls View Post
    I've never seen my females scent without a male in their tubs

    One of the males is two enclosures above, the other is still in the same room.

    Pairing her with my pastel spotnose this year, he's recently flown over the 700g mark so hoping he proves out and hoping to get some spotnose offspring this season :gj:
  • 09-10-2021, 01:51 PM
    Bogertophis
    Re: Are females known to scent?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bleh View Post
    One of the males is two enclosures above, the other is still in the same room...

    No wonder she's been doing this. They can smell each other- it's a snakey turn-on. ;)
  • 09-10-2021, 03:23 PM
    Bleh
    Re: Are females known to scent?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    No wonder she's been doing this. They can smell each other- it's a snakey turn-on. ;)

    Perhaps I'll move my pairing plans forward a few weeks then 🤔

    See how they feed this weekend, and decide from there!
  • 09-10-2021, 03:45 PM
    Snow Balls
    Re: Are females known to scent?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    No wonder she's been doing this. They can smell each other- it's a snakey turn-on. ;)

    That's not necessarily true, all my BPs are in the same room and in racks inches away from each other and none of my breeder females exhibit this behavior. It never hurts to pair them early though!
  • 09-10-2021, 04:04 PM
    Bogertophis
    Re: Are females known to scent?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Snow Balls View Post
    That's not necessarily true, all my BPs are in the same room and in racks inches away from each other and none of my breeder females exhibit this behavior. It never hurts to pair them early though!

    How many do you have? Maybe there's just too many scents "competing" with each other for them to sort out? I dunno... :confusd: Or maybe your air circulates in ways that doesn't facilitate this?

    When I've bred snakes (never BPs) they appeared to respond to scent quite a bit- in fact, that's how I gauged they were ready to put together.
  • 09-10-2021, 04:07 PM
    Snow Balls
    Re: Are females known to scent?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    How many do you have? Maybe there's just too many scents "competing" with each other for them to sort out? I dunno... :confusd: Or maybe your air circulates in ways that doesn't facilitate this?

    When I've bred snakes (never BPs) they appeared to respond to scent quite a bit- in fact, that's how I gauged they were ready to put together.

    In total or breeder males/females? I have a ceiling fan in my snake room along with an air tower to circulate the air. I’ve never experienced them scenting or tail wagging unless a female can physically see a male in her tub and most of the time it’s almost instantly. Im not saying it doesn’t happen, I’ve just never witnessed it


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  • 09-10-2021, 04:23 PM
    Bogertophis
    Re: Are females known to scent?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Snow Balls View Post
    In total or breeder males/females? I have a ceiling fan in my snake room along with an air tower to circulate the air. I’ve never experienced them scenting or tail wagging unless a female can physically see a male in her tub and most of the time it’s almost instantly. Im not saying it doesn’t happen, I’ve just never witnessed it


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    How many BPs of breeding age? And I believe you, I'm just speculating about this anyway.
  • 09-10-2021, 04:43 PM
    Snow Balls
    Re: Are females known to scent?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    How many BPs of breeding age? And I believe you, I'm just speculating about this anyway.

    7 females and 4 males


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  • 09-10-2021, 07:14 PM
    Jamiekerk
    Re: Are females known to scent?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bleh View Post
    So last season, I noticed my female 'spotting' her enclosure with little dabs of urate, especially when I put the male in with her (she also did lots of tail wagging when he was near which was interesting to see). I put the dabbing down to either a) scenting, or b) nervousness.

    Now, as the new season fastly approaches here in the UK with temperatures dropping and humidity rising, I'm trying to continue to learn from her and her body language and one thing that's stood out to me is she's been producing more regular spots of urate, although bigger than the dabs I witnessed last year.

    I'll add she's toileting fine too.

    I've had a quick search, but can't say I've found anything definitive so was wondering, is there a chance she's scenting? Is this something other people witness their females doing?

    I do feel she showing signs with slight changes in her behaviour that she's getting ready so considering starting to pair her later this month / from next month.

    As always, your experiences are largely appreciated.

    A female of mine has also started doing this I am also in uk, I don’t have any males yet just females.


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  • 09-11-2021, 02:09 AM
    Bleh
    Re: Are females known to scent?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jamiekerk View Post
    A female of mine has also started doing this I am also in uk, I don’t have any males yet just females.

    Interesting. Are your females of breeding weight and age?
  • 09-11-2021, 06:27 AM
    Jamiekerk
    Re: Are females known to scent?
    The one that’s doing it is like 5 years old and 2.5 kg, she also seems almost restless right now, she’s still eating perfect but she seems very active all of a sudden. Just cruising are kind her enclosure then napping then cruising some more


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  • 09-11-2021, 07:05 AM
    Bleh
    Re: Are females known to scent?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jamiekerk View Post
    The one that’s doing it is like 5 years old and 2.5 kg, she also seems almost restless right now, she’s still eating perfect but she seems very active all of a sudden. Just cruising are kind her enclosure then napping then cruising some more

    Yeah, almost verbatim besides the age and weight. Mine is a little younger and a little lighter (just under 2kg at last weigh in).

    Good to know there's commonalities this time of year!

    Thanks
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