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BP Not moved in 7 days

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  • 09-02-2021, 07:05 PM
    EthanMG
    BP Not moved in 7 days
    I fed my ball python two weeks ago, then handled him three days after that, and a couple days later he went into this “humid box” I made him. It is a plastic Tupperware that I painted black with a hole in the top filled with spagnum Moss. The mass was hardly damp one week ago and now it is basically completely dry. I’ve been keeping the tank at 60-70% humidity because I’m guessing that he is in shed. The only thing that concerns me is that most people say shedding process takes five days, but it’s been a week. And he also hasn’t moved AT ALL even at night in those 7 days. Should I be worried? I’m not even sure if he’s in shed. I can’t really tell. I’ll put some photos. The ones of him curled up are from today the others are from a few weeks ago. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...46a390efaf.jpg
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  • 09-02-2021, 08:12 PM
    Bogertophis
    Shedding takes as long as it takes, not "5 days" as someone told you. And it takes longer if they just ate. Because both digestion and shedding requires extra hydration (water) from the snake's body, so if they're doing both at more or less the same time, it just got slower. Snakes don't watch the calendar, neither should you.

    Since you're obviously looking in on him, you should re-moisten the moss (mist, or if you don't want to disturb him with the spray, just pour some water into it) when you notice it's dry. Also, he might NOT be in shed- he might just be enjoying the humid hide, as most of my snakes do too. They don't only use it during shed times. ;)
  • 09-02-2021, 08:16 PM
    EthanMG
    Re: BP Not moved in 7 days
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    Shedding takes as long as it takes, not "5 days" as someone told you. And it takes longer if they just ate. Because both digestion and shedding requires extra hydration (water) from the snake's body, so if they're doing both at more or less the same time, it just got slower. Snakes don't watch the calendar, neither should you.

    Ok thank you, that makes sense, but what should be the longest before I should do something or be concerned


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  • 09-02-2021, 08:19 PM
    Bogertophis
    Re: BP Not moved in 7 days
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by EthanMG View Post
    Ok thank you, that makes sense, but what should be the longest before I should do something or be concerned


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    I added to my post above, in case you missed it. Just chill. :cool: He's a snake, he's comfortable...that's a good thing. If he was physically able to smile, he'd be smiling...okay?
  • 09-02-2021, 08:40 PM
    Snagrio
    Something to keep in mind. BPs have been described as "living pet rocks" for a reason. Compared to other snakes they tend to not be very active (remember how I told you he'll likely be moving around a lot less after the initial week or so).

    As long as he's eating, your parameters are up to snuff and he shows no signs of stress or disease, his lack of movement is totally normal. ;)
  • 09-02-2021, 08:42 PM
    EthanMG
    Re: BP Not moved in 7 days
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Snagrio View Post
    Something to keep in mind. BPs have been described as "living pet rocks" for a reason. Compared to other snakes they tend to not be very active (remember how I told you he'll likely be moving around a lot less after the initial week or so).

    As long as he's eating, your parameters are up to snuff and he shows no signs of stress or disease, his lack of movement is totally normal. ;)

    So, should I attempt to feed or not? I’m so confused if he’s in shed or not. If he’s in shed I don’t want to feed him, but if he isn’t then he needs to eat because it’s been 2 weeks.


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  • 09-02-2021, 09:19 PM
    Bogertophis
    Re: BP Not moved in 7 days
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by EthanMG View Post
    So, should I attempt to feed or not? I’m so confused if he’s in shed or not. If he’s in shed I don’t want to feed him, but if he isn’t then he needs to eat because it’s been 2 weeks.


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    Have you checked his eyes (milky or not?) in a dark room with a small flashlight? Only you can answer whether or not he's in shed now- so go look. ;) And he's not going to starve the minute it goes over 2 weeks from his last meal- he's a snake, & in the wild, they don't eat on any sort of schedule. They eat when they find food.
  • 09-02-2021, 09:23 PM
    EL-Ziggy
    Re: BP Not moved in 7 days
    He could be prepping to shed. If he doesn’t go blue or shed in the the next week then go ahead and feed him. Waiting an extra week to eat won’t hurt him.
  • 09-02-2021, 09:56 PM
    EthanMG
    Re: BP Not moved in 7 days
    Ok thanks for the feedback. I’ll shine a flashlight tomorrow and I’ll wait another week before I feed


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  • 09-03-2021, 03:16 AM
    Bleh
    Re: BP Not moved in 7 days
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by EthanMG View Post
    So, should I attempt to feed or not? I’m so confused if he’s in shed or not. If he’s in shed I don’t want to feed him, but if he isn’t then he needs to eat because it’s been 2 weeks.

    If he's in shed he ikely won't eat for you anyway.

    Some key markers to look out for when in shed (or blue as often referred too);

    - Pre-shed belly. The underneath of your snake will likely have a pinkish hue.

    - Your little beauty will look much duller than usual.

    - The eyes will 'milk' over for a period of time but won't necessarily stay milky for the duration he's in shed. Below is an old image of one of mine with milky eyes.

    [IMG]https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...011_204259.jpg[/IMG]

    I hope this is useful for you.

    p.s. beautiful looking animal you have there
  • 09-03-2021, 07:19 PM
    sp0420
    First off beautiful snake. Is he a bamboo? He may be moving around a little and your just not there to see it. I have a few that spend almost all their time curled up under their paper towel with just their heads poking out and are hardly ever active. On the other hand I have several that are very active. He looks really healthy, I wouldn't worry about him. Also like the above post mentioned look out for when he goes blue if you miss him going blue look for the pinkish red belly thats when you know they're going into shed.
  • 09-03-2021, 07:24 PM
    EthanMG
    Re: BP Not moved in 7 days
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sp0420 View Post
    First off beautiful snake. Is he a bamboo? He may be moving around a little and your just not there to see it. I have a few that spend almost all their time curled up under their paper towel with just their heads poking out and are hardly ever active. On the other hand I have several that are very active. He looks really healthy, I wouldn't worry about him. Also like the above post mentioned look out for when he goes blue if you miss him going blue look for the pinkish red belly thats when you know they're going into shed.

    Thanks for your reply! Surprisingly, last night after I was posting on this thread I checked on him and saw him moving inside of his hide. I then turned off the light, and last night he was moving all over again!! I got excited this morning to check for a shed, but sadly there is none [emoji3525]. Not sure why, but at least he’s moving at night again. I’m going to offer him food tonight.


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  • 09-03-2021, 07:25 PM
    EthanMG
    Re: BP Not moved in 7 days
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sp0420 View Post
    First off beautiful snake. Is he a bamboo? He may be moving around a little and your just not there to see it. I have a few that spend almost all their time curled up under their paper towel with just their heads poking out and are hardly ever active. On the other hand I have several that are very active. He looks really healthy, I wouldn't worry about him. Also like the above post mentioned look out for when he goes blue if you miss him going blue look for the pinkish red belly thats when you know they're going into shed.

    Yes, thanks for the compliment on him. I LOVE the way he looks too. He is an enchi bamboo 50% het pied


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  • 09-06-2021, 12:56 PM
    Jamiekerk
    Re: BP Not moved in 7 days
    I have snakes that could be in there hide for weeks, I have one a albino female that doesn’t use hides at all she’s in a wooden viv all temps right etc but she just use them went off feed for 4 months removed the hides are right away, I made some natural hide area with some drift wood she just lays behind that. Now been smashing food every week for 3 months now.

    Sometimes a snake is just different, sometimes they just do what they want outside the norm. I wouldn’t panic. If they are on feed drinking normally temps etc are good I wouldn’t worry.


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