Banana Bumble Bee & Banana Spider Help Not Eating

I got these baby snakes About 6-8 weeks ago. And these snakes won't eat since i got them any help would be appreciated.

Hot side run at 82 degrees humidity 40 to 45 aspen beding

Please let us know full details plus a photo would be helpful ...


Hot surface spot should be around 90F though ...


I’ll send you details of the “hairdryer method” of feeding



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What details do you want and it won't let me upload a picture

get the tapatalk app and post pic through that. How are they set up, what size enclosures, what type of heating sources, how are you controlling the heat, how are you taking temps, what were they being fed at the breeder, how have you attempted to feed so far and the results? Hatchlings usually do best in small tubs, hot spot should be 88-90, ambient temps and cool side should be about 78-80.

incloser 48*18*18 above heating light and 150 bulb dont know what they were feeding them been offering food every week still cant upload a photo

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...-hatchling-101

Read through this thread

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...ips-and-Tricks
Saw your photo in your gallery. Definitely need to read this one too. Lots of changes need to be made, namely separating the two animals.

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Originally Posted by jmcrook

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...ips-and-Tricks
Saw your photo in your gallery. Definitely need to read this one too. Lots of changes need to be made, namely separating the two animals.

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Thank you for the link there was a lot of good info.


One other problem that I think I have is that both animals are always on the cold side of the tank. Both of them just curl up in a ball.

One other problem that I think that I is that both snakes do the big yawn like after eating a meal.

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Originally Posted by Wideload319

One other problem that I think that I is that both snakes do the big yawn like after eating a meal.

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Nothing wrong with that- they're repositioning (aligning) their very flexible jaws again after eating. Quite normal.

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Originally Posted by Bogertophis

Nothing wrong with that- they're repositioning (aligning) their very flexible jaws again after eating. Quite normal.

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They don't do it after a meal they do it often. like 3to 4 times daily

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Originally Posted by Wideload319

They don't do it after a meal they do it often. like 3to 4 times daily

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sounds like possible RI, I'd get them to a reptile vet. would explain them not wanting to eat.

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Originally Posted by nikkubus

sounds like possible RI, I'd get them to a reptile vet. would explain them not wanting to eat.

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I think their snakes not eating has more to do with being cohabbed in dramatically too large of an enclosure with no hides or proper temperature measurements than it does to do with a few yawns. Look at the image in their gallery


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Originally Posted by jmcrook

I think their snakes not eating has more to do with being cohabbed in dramatically too large of an enclosure with no hides or proper temperature measurements than it does to do with a few yawns. Look at the image in their gallery


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Yea, I didn't see this before responding to the substrate thread OP also posted. Wideload I highly recommend you do some research, read literally any care guide you can find online and you'll be doing better than you are right now. Tossing two BPs into a, for them, giant enclosure with aspen substrate, a water bowl, and nothing else isn't even the bare minimum.

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Originally Posted by Hugsplox

Yea, I didn't see this before responding to the substrate thread OP also posted. Wideload I highly recommend you do some research, read literally any care guide you can find online and you'll be doing better than you are right now. Tossing two BPs into a, for them, giant enclosure with aspen substrate, a water bowl, and nothing else isn't even the bare minimum.

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Well they were a gift. From my mother. and she don't know anything about snakes. I have been reading all the stuff on the forum and I have learned a lot

They WERE a gift. Now the ARE a responsibility. Glad you’ve learned things since joining the forums. Now it’s time to implement that knowledge by setting the animals up properly in their own suitably sized enclosures with an adequate sense of security and thermostat regulated heat sources to create a temperature gradient.


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Yea them being gifts, or your mother not know anything about snakes, doesn't change the conditions that you're keeping them in. I doubt your mother knowing nothing about snakes settled on those morphs with no input from you, especially considering what they're going for on Morphmarket right now. You need to do research and have enclosures set up and running in advance before bringing snakes home.

That ship has sailed now though, so all you can do is make corrections now. Your husbandry is why your snakes aren't eating, and until you correct the many issues visible in your pictures, I doubt they will eat for you. Not trying to be overly firm or mean or anything, I just want to be sure that our message is getting through to you.

The husbandry issues you're having aren't options, they're required items that you need to get taken care of. Separate the snakes into appropriate sized enclosures, get yourself some appropriate sized hides, proper equipment, get those temperature and humidity parameters in check, etc etc. It's going to take some time for those guys to settle in especially considering how they're kept right now.

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Originally Posted by nikkubus

sounds like possible RI, I'd get them to a reptile vet. would explain them not wanting to eat.

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they come out at dark and crawl all over the place and they have good looking tongues they are nice and pink.

Update I finally got both of them to eat of course I had to feed them live prey. But I am very happy that they ate today

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Originally Posted by Wideload319

They don't do it after a meal they do it often. like 3to 4 times daily

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Okay, sorry I misunderstood you- ("like after a meal"). Meanwhile, co-habbing them is a very bad idea. Agree with posts by Hugsplox & jmcrook above.

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Originally Posted by nikkubus

sounds like possible RI, I'd get them to a reptile vet. would explain them not wanting to eat.

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And I'd agree that even though they just ate, finally taking live, they still might be getting an RI. Even a bigger reason why you don't want them sharing a home!

They have had two meals now. Plus I got them to reptile vet and neither one of them have an RI they were both give a clean bill of health