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Video Of Boas
I just caught this today and thought the camera work was great.
If you enjoy boas, this is worth a look.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4K3LqfFEg1A
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That was an awesome video with some great camera work! I could watch that kind of stuff for hours! There was a lot to digest in there for me. The main takeaway was that there’s nothing more beautiful and brutal as nature, and that, try as we might, there’s no way to accurately replicate nature either. I sometimes feel guilty for keeping these amazing animals in captivity, strictly for my enjoyment, but on the other hand I also believe that we can still give them a great life free of the threats, predators, and dangers in the wild.
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It's so awesome to really see snakes in nature. I got a kick out of the climbing done by that annulated tree boa- the way he wrapped around a long leaf that I was sure he couldn't climb!
That was some good hissing by that BCI too. TKS for sharing this.
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I saw this the other week, really cool video.
hopeing to go to Costa Rica for my 50th 2022, hopefully the world will be abit more open by then
I would love to see the boas in there natural environments
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Originally Posted by Bogertophis
It's so awesome to really see snakes in nature. I got a kick out of the climbing done by that annulated tree boa- the way he wrapped around a long leaf that I was sure he couldn't climb!
That was some good hissing by that BCI too. TKS for sharing this.
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Originally Posted by EL-Ziggy
That was an awesome video with some great camera work! I could watch that kind of stuff for hours! There was a lot to digest in there for me. The main takeaway was that there’s nothing more beautiful and brutal as nature, and that, try as we might, there’s no way to accurately replicate nature either. I sometimes feel guilty for keeping these amazing animals in captivity, strictly for my enjoyment, but on the other hand I also believe that we can still give them a great life free of the threats, predators, and dangers in the wild.
Seeing the boas in nature, and climbing, and being so active, was cool. Makes me wonder if we are keeping ours "fat and lazy?" I get my boas out for social and active time, but not exactly climbing trees!
EL-Ziggy - you make a great point though. Although "fat and lazy," they are also safe and happy. Hmmmmmmm. I felt the same way when I kept Frontosa (large Cihclids from a huge lake in Africa). I kept 12 of them in a 240G tank (8X2X2'). Not exactly an entire lake. However, happy, safe, and they bred.
I do not know the right answer and there probably isn't one. Our "pets" don't know any different and are probably cool with the regular feedings and lack of danger, if they could think about it anyway. Wild boas probably enjoy climbing and being free.
Of course, as we know, snakes cannot appreciate since they have no frontal lobe. So, we worry about it more than they do. People say on here all the time things like, "snakes enjoy killing and hunting," but we know that's not true. We anthropomorphize a lot.
The reality is there are pros and cons to keeping snakes in captivity. There are also pros and cons to nature. Nature isn't always kind and people are destroying Boa habitats left and right.
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Originally Posted by richardhind1972
I saw this the other week, really cool video.
hopeing to go to Costa Rica for my 50th 2022, hopefully the world will be abit more open by then
I would love to see the boas in there natural environments
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I hope you get there, "old man." :).
Purely selfish of course. I know you will take great pics if you go.
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Probably the cleanest boa footage I've ever seen. Thanks for the recommend.
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It also reminds me that when I had that BCI & would stroll around my back yard with her, she often showed a willingness to climb a tree, never mind the fact that they're some 50+ feet & not at all leaning for assistance. Obviously I couldn't indulge her whims on that, but maybe she'd have done even better than I thought? As long as it wasn't right after lunch...:D Yes, it's really nice to see them more active, & following all those scent trails.
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...There are also pros and cons to nature. Nature isn't always kind and people are destroying Boa habitats left and right...
That's for sure. :tears:
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Originally Posted by dakski
Seeing the boas in nature, and climbing, and being so active, was cool. Makes me wonder if we are keeping ours "fat and lazy?" I get my boas out for social and active time, but not exactly climbing trees!
EL-Ziggy - you make a great point though. Although "fat and lazy," they are also safe and happy. Hmmmmmmm. I felt the same way when I kept Frontosa (large Cihclids from a huge lake in Africa). I kept 12 of them in a 240G tank (8X2X2'). Not exactly an entire lake. However, happy, safe, and they bred.
I do not know the right answer and there probably isn't one. Our "pets" don't know any different and are probably cool with the regular feedings and lack of danger, if they could think about it anyway. Wild boas probably enjoy climbing and being free.
Of course, as we know, snakes cannot appreciate since they have no frontal lobe. So, we worry about it more than they do. People say on here all the time things like, "snakes enjoy killing and hunting," but we know that's not true. We anthropomorphize a lot.
The reality is there are pros and cons to keeping snakes in captivity. There are also pros and cons to nature. Nature isn't always kind and people are destroying Boa habitats left and right.
I hope you get there, "old man." :).
Purely selfish of course. I know you will take great pics if you go.
:sarcasm:
I really can't wait Dave.
Not for being 50 like(don't bother me really) but to hopefully see the boas in the wild definitely going to organise a herping trip in the jungle, the hotel is on the edge of a national park and there's loads of pics of snakes lizards, sloths and monkeys in the grounds of the hotel
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Great video, always enjoy seeing them in a natural habitat.
Envious of your proposed Costa Rica trip Richard! I'd love to do something similar one day.
Boas do love to climb and are very good at it! As an indoor safe alternative, mine sometimes enjoy exploring the cat trees (cats are kept separate). No current photos but here's an old one from 2000 of 2 diff boas having fun. You can make jungle gyms and lean large wood against walls/windows and they can go explore. I used to have a whole room with tunnels and branches and would just let the big boas go in there for a few hours, I need to do that again.
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/c5R8bLA.jpg
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/9bFsSwg.jpg
she'd climb all the way to the top and then just chill out up there watching everything
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Someone needs to make a version of this for balls.
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Originally Posted by AbsoluteApril
Great video, always enjoy seeing them in a natural habitat.
Envious of your proposed Costa Rica trip Richard! I'd love to do something similar one day.
Boas do love to climb and are very good at it! As an indoor safe alternative, mine sometimes enjoy exploring the cat trees (cats are kept separate). No current photos but here's an old one from 2000 of 2 diff boas having fun. You can make jungle gyms and lean large wood against walls/windows and they can go explore. I used to have a whole room with tunnels and branches and would just let the big boas go in there for a few hours, I need to do that again.
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/c5R8bLA.jpg
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/9bFsSwg.jpg
she'd climb all the way to the top and then just chill out up there watching everything
Thanks April, hopefully I get there [emoji1696][emoji1696]
Was supposed to go to Mexico last year for our 10yr anniversary but got cancled because of covid, rebooked for this September but not even sure taht will happen, really hope it does
My boas have always loved to climb too
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Wow, this is a really nice video. Thanks for sharing, Gio! It looks like this channel has a couple other nice snake videos, too.
This is the kind of snake content I'm really looking for nowadays. It's nice to see how our snakes' wild cousins go about their day and interact with their environment. One thing that really stuck out to me was the difference in the BIs' locomotion as they navigated different ground cover -- in particular, that large BI kind of "stepping" over that brush in its opening shot. (Also, it it just me, or was that Dumeril's sidewinding in that overhead shot?). All of those different types of locomotion work and build different muscle groups.
For people who are really in to naturalistic cage design (like me), it's also very nice to see what habitats wild boas are actually using. iNaturalist has also been a bit helpful on this front.
Thinking about how we can use this knowledge to better our keeping of snakes -- I think switching up substrates or having patches or mixes of different substrates in an enclosure would be a good way to replicate natural terrain's variation and get boas to engage different muscle groups over ground. Lori Torrini has a video or two out about this, I believe. Offering different types of perching and climbing structure would also help -- ie. a mix of shelves and branches, perches made of different materials, etc.. AbsoluteApril's cat trees are a great idea for a good climbing challenge outside of the enclosure! Personally, I'd love to be able to get a good-sized faux tree or one of those large parrot perching trees for my boas to climb while they're out. Those tend to cost an arm and a leg, though, so they'll probably be getting a laundry drying rack instead. :P
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...(Also, it it just me, or was that Dumeril's sidewinding in that overhead shot?)...
Yes, I saw it that way too. :D Except I'm sure that it was making more ground contact than sidewinders do- they sort of "skip" over the often-HOT ground.
Hint: Once in a while you find a large fake tree donated to a thrift store- usually dusty but WAY cheaper. Like from an office 'make-over'.
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This was so cool to watch, thanks for sharing!
I watched it during the day in my office and then spun it up again last night for the wife. My 18 month old was loosing her mind going "ooooh aaaah." She's been around reptiles since birth so it was awesome for her to get to see some bigger snakes in their natural environment.
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