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  • 09-08-2020, 06:00 AM
    MuicyJelon
    He escaped the viv overnight.
    Basically I woke up an saw a vent had been nudged off the viv and s*** myself. I did find him. He was on the floor behind some plastic drawers, he would’ve fell about two an a half feet to the floor, it looked as though he’d got himself comfy and went to sleep there.

    Could anything of happened to him health wise, given that he’d fell over two feet and was quite cold by the time I found him?

    I’ve no clue how long he was out for, he was still inside the viv when I went to bed at around 3:30am and had obviously escaped before I woke up at 10am.


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  • 09-08-2020, 08:05 AM
    rlditmars
    Re: He escaped the viv overnight.
    No way to know if there is an internal injury from the fall but these animals are very resilient. As far as the time out, that is a very short time and should have no effect. Remember that snakes are experts at finding and exploiting holes whether for cover or escape. Never underestimate their ability. Glad you found him so quickly.
  • 09-08-2020, 09:40 AM
    MuicyJelon
    Re: He escaped the viv overnight.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rlditmars View Post
    No way to know if there is an internal injury from the fall but these animals are very resilient. As far as the time out, that is a very short time and should have no effect. Remember that snakes are experts at finding and exploiting holes whether for cover or escape. Never underestimate their ability. Glad you found him so quickly.

    I’d assume it’s just something to keep a close eye on him for over the next week.


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  • 09-08-2020, 11:10 AM
    Bogertophis
    Re: He escaped the viv overnight.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rlditmars View Post
    No way to know if there is an internal injury from the fall but these animals are very resilient. As far as the time out, that is a very short time and should have no effect. Remember that snakes are experts at finding and exploiting holes whether for cover or escape. Never underestimate their ability. Glad you found him so quickly.

    I totally agree with rlditmars & 'second' this post ^ ^ ^ . You got lucky with such a quick find...:gj: Now to fix the viv...
  • 09-08-2020, 04:04 PM
    303_enfield
    Fell? More like a slow drop. Head starts down while the rest of the body holds till it's just an inch of tail left holding the snake. That's only if the snake didn't find a better way.

    Now, the vent, is a clip holding it or spring? Hot glue or small screws are your friend.

    Good luck!
  • 09-08-2020, 04:06 PM
    MuicyJelon
    Re: He escaped the viv overnight.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 303_enfield View Post
    Fell? More like a slow drop. Head starts down while the rest of the body holds till it's just an inch of tail left holding the snake. That's only if the snake didn't find a better way.

    Now, the vent, is a clip holding it or spring? Hot glue or small screws are your friend.

    Good luck!

    Is hot glue non toxic to reptiles?


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  • 09-09-2020, 02:46 PM
    Zincubus
    Re: He escaped the viv overnight.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MuicyJelon View Post
    Is hot glue non toxic to reptiles?


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    I’ve used it for years and years .. no issues at all .. everything stays put UNTIL you want to remove it .


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  • 09-09-2020, 03:13 PM
    303_enfield
    Most hot glue is kid an pet safe. The cheap stuff on E-Bay from China, I wouldn’t try it.

    Good luck!
  • 09-09-2020, 04:49 PM
    MuicyJelon
    He escaped the viv overnight.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    I’ve used it for years and years .. no issues at all .. everything stays put UNTIL you want to remove it .


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    So it can be used for fake plants as well with no issues? Could it hold the weight of a snake (BP) on a fake plant that’s stuck on with hot glue? Using the suction cups is quite annoying.


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  • 09-09-2020, 05:25 PM
    Zincubus
    Re: He escaped the viv overnight.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MuicyJelon View Post
    So it can be used for fake plants as well with no issues? Could it hold the weight of a snake (BP) on a fake plant that’s stuck on with hot glue? Using the suction cups is quite annoying.


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    I hot glue fake foliage etc all the time

    As for branches I kinda slightly jam them into position then hot glue in place .



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  • 09-09-2020, 05:27 PM
    MuicyJelon
    Re: He escaped the viv overnight.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Zincubus View Post
    I hot glue fake foliage etc all the time

    As for branches I kinda slightly jam them into position then hot glue in place .



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    How long does the glue take to dry/set or whatever you call it?
    And how long should I keep him out of the enclosure for?


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  • 09-09-2020, 09:04 PM
    Zincubus
    Re: He escaped the viv overnight.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MuicyJelon View Post
    How long does the glue take to dry/set or whatever you call it?
    And how long should I keep him out of the enclosure for?


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    Takes about 40 seconds :)




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  • 09-16-2020, 01:54 PM
    Newbiehelpme
    Re: He escaped the viv overnight.
    As soon as I read the header line I had to come take a look. My first two bps (ten years ago) were genius at escaping. Luckily enough I managed to get the tank (vent strip at the top back) up against the wall while adding vents at the side of the tank. This managed to stop them both getting out, for some reason they never worked out the side vents. The female managed to find her way out more than my male did at the time. Mad.
    Good luck!
  • 12-05-2020, 06:21 AM
    MuicyJelon
    Re: He escaped the viv overnight.
    He did it again, I’ve found him, he was cold & underneath the bed. Would’ve been out for 3 to 4 hours.


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  • 12-05-2020, 08:39 AM
    gerguera
    Re: He escaped the viv overnight.
    Looks like you have an escape artist on your hands, time to get creative with how you secure your viv. Glad you were able to find him somewhere you could get to him. I always worry about mine ending up somewhere where I can't simply pick her up like inside the couch or something. How would you lure your her out? :rolleyes:
  • 12-05-2020, 09:21 AM
    MuicyJelon
    Re: He escaped the viv overnight.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gerguera View Post
    Looks like you have an escape artist on your hands, time to get creative with how you secure your viv. Glad you were able to find him somewhere you could get to him. I always worry about mine ending up somewhere where I can't simply pick her up like inside the couch or something. How would you lure your her out? :rolleyes:

    We had to lift my bed up to get to him. Wouldn’t know how to lure a snake out from a good hiding spot.


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  • 12-05-2020, 09:44 AM
    gerguera
    Re: He escaped the viv overnight.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MuicyJelon View Post
    We had to lift my bed up to get to him. Wouldn’t know how to lure a snake out from a good hiding spot.


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    What's the plan to keep him safe in his viv in the future?
  • 12-05-2020, 12:39 PM
    Bogertophis
    Re: He escaped the viv overnight.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gerguera View Post
    ... I always worry about mine ending up somewhere where I can't simply pick her up like inside the couch or something. How would you lure your her out? :rolleyes:

    People have had to cut open their couch or bed or upholstered chairs to retrieve a snake that found their way in thru a hole in the fabric. I don't know how snakes always seem to find those holes, nor do I know how tornadoes seem to "find" trailer parks...I just know that they do. ;)
  • 12-05-2020, 07:29 PM
    gerguera
    Re: He escaped the viv overnight.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    People have had to cut open their couch or bed or upholstered chairs to retrieve a snake that found their way in thru a hole in the fabric. I don't know how snakes always seem to find those holes, nor do I know how tornadoes seem to "find" trailer parks...I just know that they do. ;)

    I figured you would have to cut your way in because they wont be coming out once they find a safe place to hide, best to properly secure our viv's instead. Preventing a problem always better than trying to solve it :no:

    Still I wonder if a live rat inside a cage could trick them into coming out ? Probably wouldn't want to wait for her to get hungry until putting her safely back home though.
  • 12-05-2020, 08:53 PM
    Bogertophis
    Re: He escaped the viv overnight.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gerguera View Post
    I figured you would have to cut your way in because they wont be coming out once they find a safe place to hide, best to properly secure our viv's instead. Preventing a problem always better than trying to solve it :no:

    Still I wonder if a live rat inside a cage could trick them into coming out ? Probably wouldn't want to wait for her to get hungry until putting her safely back home though.

    Happily I've never had to find out. It might work, but like you said, how long would it take? And would it be worth letting your snake get too cold, get sick & need the vet? I'd rather cut open the furniture underneath where it won't show (& repair it after) to get the snake out.
  • 12-08-2020, 05:45 AM
    MuicyJelon
    Re: He escaped the viv overnight.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gerguera View Post
    What's the plan to keep him safe in his viv in the future?

    Will be screwing & glueing something on the outside of the viv at the back over 3/4's of the vent leaving just enough space for wires for the thermostat & digital thermometers so if/when he manages to get the vent off he won’t be able to get out as it’ll be covered. Will be doing that later on tonight.

    Does it matter what glue is used?
    Coz' it’ll be superglued as well as screwed on.
    As in the toxicity of the glue or doesn’t it matter coz' it’ll be on the outside of the viv?

    He won’t be staying in the viv for about a day whilst it dries, I’ve got a separate mini enclosure for him to go in overnight with a heat mat underneath it that should be enough for it to be at the right temp.


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  • 12-13-2020, 01:40 PM
    MuicyJelon
    Re: He escaped the viv overnight.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by gerguera View Post
    What's the plan to keep him safe in his viv in the future?

    I’ll put a picture up later of what I’ve done to stop him from getting out.


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  • 12-13-2020, 02:38 PM
    Spicey
    Re: He escaped the viv overnight.
    Quote:

    Does it matter what glue is used?
    Coz' it’ll be superglued as well as screwed on.
    As in the toxicity of the glue or doesn’t it matter coz' it’ll be on the outside of the viv?

    Once the glue dries it will be inert, and like you say, it will be on the outside anyway. I'd say you're good.
  • 12-13-2020, 02:41 PM
    MuicyJelon
    Re: He escaped the viv overnight.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Spicey View Post
    Once the glue dries it will be inert, and like you say, it will be on the outside anyway. I'd say you're good.

    Caked a mini sheet of plastic in sealant (non toxic) and put 5 screws in it. No chance he’s getting out. [emoji119]


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  • 12-13-2020, 07:05 PM
    MuicyJelon
    Re: He escaped the viv overnight.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MuicyJelon View Post
    Caked a mini sheet of plastic in sealant (non toxic) and put 5 screws in it. No chance he’s getting out. [emoji119]


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    [mention]Bogertophis [/mention] [mention]Spicey [/mention] [mention]gerguera [/mention]
    He may get the vent off again but there’s no way he’s getting past that.
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