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These are mites, right?

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  • 04-16-2020, 07:06 PM
    wnateg
    These are mites, right?
    Some of you may have seen my updates in my scrub python thread about possible mites. I inspected her THREE times, and I didn't see any on her anywhere, but these are SO small, it may just be really really hard to see them. I thought mites were bigger than this. Plus I haven't changed anything in the enclosure for months, but she has been soaking recently, so I bought a microscope to investigate further.

    These are the pictures I've got. I'm guessing it is mites. The darker one is probably filled with some blood? That is so annoying.

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/sAtZrjG.jpg
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/cuZUXHs.jpg
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/j7sDoQr.jpg
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/Emq2hZ3.jpg
  • 04-16-2020, 07:20 PM
    bcr229
    Ugh, looks like it. Get any new critters in the last few weeks?
  • 04-16-2020, 07:30 PM
    wnateg
    Re: These are mites, right?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bcr229 View Post
    Ugh, looks like it. Get any new critters in the last few weeks?

    No, not before I started noticing something was up. I just got another ETB today, but she's in a separate room, so he should be alright.

    I just ordered PAM. Never treated for mites. Not sure it'll penetrate the wood I have in, so I dont know about that. But I'll strip the enclosures down this weekend.
  • 04-16-2020, 08:57 PM
    wnateg
    Well I guess there's no sense breaking everything down until I have the PAM, which should be next week. While I have them out, I'll rub them down with olive oil.

    The only questions is what do I do with the wood? It's too big to soak, so I guess I'll have to throw it out, which is pretty heartbreaking because it looks so good.
  • 04-16-2020, 09:18 PM
    EL-Ziggy
    Re: These are mites, right?
    I've heard really good things about Frontline for mite treatments. It supposedly gets rid of them in one treatment. Best wishes vanquishing those pesky pests.
  • 04-16-2020, 09:31 PM
    wnateg
    Re: These are mites, right?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by EL-Ziggy View Post
    I've heard really good things about Frontline for mite treatments. It supposedly gets rid of them in one treatment. Best wishes vanquishing those pesky pests.

    Hmm yes, I have heard that too. And I could probably get it this weekend, so I ain't dilly dallying around while my snake suffers.
  • 04-16-2020, 10:01 PM
    wnateg
    Oh and I could try NIX too. With any of them, including PAM, I wouldn't spray directly on the snake, so might as well try NIX or frontline this weekend.

    I'll just leave the wood on my balcony for a few weeks and spray it down every so often.
  • 04-16-2020, 10:31 PM
    bcr229
  • 04-16-2020, 10:36 PM
    wnateg
    Re: These are mites, right?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bcr229 View Post

    Yes, I was reading that post. Though, I was leaning toward the frontline rub down like the youtube video you posted. Sounds more effective to treat the snake directly, though I'm sure all the methods work. Scrub won't be the most willing participant though lol
  • 04-17-2020, 09:19 AM
    asplundii
    To supplement what bcr posted:

    https://youtu.be/BwCAuhSVRV4
  • 04-17-2020, 09:25 AM
    bcr229
    Re: These are mites, right?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wnateg View Post
    Yes, I was reading that post. Though, I was leaning toward the frontline rub down like the youtube video you posted. Sounds more effective to treat the snake directly, though I'm sure all the methods work. Scrub won't be the most willing participant though lol

    I posted that to also give you ideas on how to effectively treat the wood since the mites have no doubt laid eggs on it.
  • 04-17-2020, 10:12 AM
    Zincubus
    Re: These are mites, right?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wnateg View Post
    Some of you may have seen my updates in my scrub python thread about possible mites. I inspected her THREE times, and I didn't see any on her anywhere, but these are SO small, it may just be really really hard to see them. I thought mites were bigger than this. Plus I haven't changed anything in the enclosure for months, but she has been soaking recently, so I bought a microscope to investigate further.

    These are the pictures I've got. I'm guessing it is mites. The darker one is probably filled with some blood? That is so annoying.

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/sAtZrjG.jpg
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/cuZUXHs.jpg
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/j7sDoQr.jpg
    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/Emq2hZ3.jpg

    You just have to crush any specs you see on white paper using a the back of a teaspoon or whatever.. you’ll see blood if they’re mites


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  • 04-17-2020, 10:53 AM
    Gocntry
    Re: These are mites, right?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by EL-Ziggy View Post
    I've heard really good things about Frontline for mite treatments. It supposedly gets rid of them in one treatment. Best wishes vanquishing those pesky pests.

    This is what I used when I had a mite issue, my vet also recommended I look into it before I made a decision on what to use.

    I believe bcr229 posted up a link on using frontline also. After watching that I used it.

    I had 2 snakes I bought home that were cohabited, vet found a mite on the one, did 1 frontline treatment on both of them, waited 3 weeks, took them
    both back to the vet, both tested mite free.

    Not saying it works for everyone, but it did work for me
  • 04-17-2020, 06:18 PM
    303_enfield
    Wood is easy to treat with heat. A cheap Harbor Freight heat gun will do it. Also, Permethrin is your friend. You can get it cheap at a farm store or Walmart. Somebody with a better memory then me will post a link for treating snakes with Permethrin.Good luck!
  • 04-17-2020, 07:04 PM
    paulh
    Re: These are mites, right?
    You can also put wood into a trash bag with a Black Flag insecticide strip for a couple of weeks. Preferably in a warm spot so any mite eggs will hatch, but away from humans. Then let the wood air out well.
  • 04-18-2020, 03:48 PM
    wnateg
    I bought the NIX at Walgreens, and then changed my mind and tried finding the frontline spray. I went to three different petco's and finally found it (and it was on clearance for $12).

    https://i.imgur.com/12LeVZh.jpg

    It was quite the hassle rubbing them all down and tearing everything out of the enclosure. And I decided to treat my new male ETB while I was at it, and it bit me right on the finger.

    https://i.imgur.com/YvqyACg.jpg

    But I got it done. And I think it'll be most effective to treat the snakes directly, instead of spraying the enclosure. But we'll see. Hopefully there's no adverse effects.
  • 04-19-2020, 08:36 AM
    Gocntry
    Re: These are mites, right?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wnateg View Post
    I bought the NIX at Walgreens, and then changed my mind and tried finding the frontline spray. I went to three different petco's and finally found it (and it was on clearance for $12).

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/12LeVZh.jpg

    It was quite the hassle rubbing them all down and tearing everything out of the enclosure. And I decided to treat my new male ETB while I was at it, and it bit me right on the finger.

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/YvqyACg.jpg

    But I got it done. And I think it'll be most effective to treat the snakes directly, instead of spraying the enclosure. But we'll see. Hopefully there's no adverse effects.


    OUCH!! Yeah mine were not impressed with being wiped down with frontline either, But at the time they were only around the 100 gram mark so I didn't have that issue...

    And I have had no other issues with mites or anything else since then, they suffered no ill effects and have been eating and growing as they should.

    I hope that eliminates your mite problem too!!
  • 04-19-2020, 08:17 PM
    dr del
    Re: These are mites, right?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wnateg View Post
    Well I guess there's no sense breaking everything down until I have the PAM, which should be next week. While I have them out, I'll rub them down with olive oil.

    The only questions is what do I do with the wood? It's too big to soak, so I guess I'll have to throw it out, which is pretty heartbreaking because it looks so good.

    PAM is fine to spray on the wood too - as long as you let it dry it can be sprayed on most things - even a line of it on the carpet/ floor around the vivs. Female mites can travel quite a distance to lay their eggs.
  • 04-26-2020, 05:51 PM
    wnateg
    Just replaced the paper towels and I did see a bunch of mites under the hide. So I'll do it again next weekend, and if I see more, I'll use the frontline again.
  • 04-26-2020, 06:27 PM
    Bogertophis
    Re: These are mites, right?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wnateg View Post
    Just replaced the paper towels and I did see a bunch of mites under the hide. So I'll do it again next weekend, and if I see more, I'll use the frontline again.

    Live ones still? Yuck...:taz: You do often have to re-treat, they lay eggs that keep hatching out.
  • 04-26-2020, 07:05 PM
    wnateg
    Re: These are mites, right?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    Live ones still? Yuck...:taz: You do often have to re-treat, they lay eggs that keep hatching out.

    They weren't moving or anything, so dead I hope.
  • 04-26-2020, 09:14 PM
    viper69
    Those are definitely mites.
  • 04-27-2020, 10:28 AM
    wnateg
    She shed, didn't see any mites on it, but.
  • 05-17-2020, 12:11 PM
    wnateg
    I declare them mite free!

    One treatment did the trick I believe, but I treated twice just to be sure.
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