Denton line longicauda progression

What quickly became my dream boa subspecies joined the family today. Right after he decided to go into blue, no less!

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This is Kuzco, a wonderful het anery Boa imperator longicauda produced by the equally wonderful Allison Theus, AKA Crispysnakes. Her blog is a major reason why I got into boas, and its feels like things have come full circle now that I have a boa from one of the pairings that brought me to this side of the hobby.

Kuzco caught my attention when he was born back in July. He seemed special to me, and he even drew my eyes away from the aneries in the litter I had been eyeballing earlier. When I found out he was still available back in early February, I decided that I had to snap him up.

I finally pulled the trigger after playing with the ~6 ft Suriname dakski posted a photo of a while back (thanks dakski!) and deciding that I enjoyed and felt comfortable with boas that size. I definitely won't be going any larger, though -- I don't think the me of 30 years down the road will want to deal with anything far beyond six feet. It's hard to think that he'll eventually get to be six feet looking at him now, though. Even though he's a full month older, he seems like he's only half Adelita's size. He feels like a shoestring compared to her!

With Kuzco, I have my last "gotta have it!" boa. While I love a lot of other boa localities, I just don't feel like I need them. The plan is to just sit back with Adelita and Kuzco for the next few years and enjoy what I have.

So, here's to a couple good decades with this guy! I have a feeling I'm gonna enjoy them.

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Welcome Kuzco!

Thanks for the shout out Wrongpython! If I helped in any way, I am happy to hear it!

He's a handsome little guy. Cannot wait to see him post shed and as he grows.

Keep us posted and enjoy him for years to come!

Congratulations on your new pick up, longicauda are fantastic boas and change so much from juvenile to adult, I love my pair.there iridescence is so cool
There not heavy bodied like most boas so I think you will be fine, my male isn't even. 5ft and he's 4yrs old.

look forward to the progression thread

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Congrats on the sweet new boa! Looks great even in blue. :gj:

Congratulations on your new scaly baby! Kuzco looks amazing! You care to share the blog in which you referenced, as I am looking for new reading material. 😉 😉 😉

Brian's boas on YouTube just posted a video on his longicauda boas today definitely an interesting person to follow

He has some amazing locality boas

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Congrats!

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Had this tiny little gent out for a hot second to check on him and he's looking good! Kuzco's settling in well after a week and has just gone clear-eyed. If this is him dull, he'll be a knockout after a good shed!

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Somebody finally had his first (perfect) shed home today, and HOLY MOLY:

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Dream subspecies indeed. Can't wait to see this little gent grow up.

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Somebody finally had his first (perfect) shed home today, and HOLY MOLY:

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Dream subspecies indeed. Can't wait to see this little gent grow up.

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He will only get better with each shed too.
What. A little cutie
I love my bcl, they changed so much

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Good to see a boa post.
What a looker!

Looking really good!

Thanks! Between him and Adelita there'll be more of those in the future.

I'm honestly surprised at the relative lack of boa stuff online, outside of Facebook groups (which I tend to avoid). The lack of a boa-specific podcast is particularly surprising. It sounds like the one Vin Russo had a while back has been discontinued; there's only a few isolated episodes floating around, and not all of those play. Other podcasts have only had a few isolated boa episodes. I really wish there was more content on that front -- particularly now, given that a bunch of us will be working from home for the foreseeable future.

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Thanks! Between him and Adelita there'll be more of those in the future.

I'm honestly surprised at the relative lack of boa stuff online, outside of Facebook groups (which I tend to avoid). The lack of a boa-specific podcast is particularly surprising. It sounds like the one Vin Russo had a while back has been discontinued; there's only a few isolated episodes floating around, and not all of those play. Other podcasts have only had a few isolated boa episodes. I really wish there was more content on that front -- particularly now, given that a bunch of us will be working from home for the foreseeable future.

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Check out Brian Boas on YouTube.

Boas and Carpets are my favorite animals these days.

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Yeah, his channel is pretty awesome. I gave it a look after Rich mentioned him and ended up watching almost half of his videos in one sitting. :P

All the MPR I've been listening to has given me a bit of a Morelia bug on top of that. While I'm planning on focusing on boas if I expand in the future... well, let's just say I wouldn't be surprised to find a Papuan carpet hanging around here. ;)

Sweet boa!! Congrats!

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Yeah, his channel is pretty awesome. I gave it a look after Rich mentioned him and ended up watching almost half of his videos in one sitting. [emoji14]

All the MPR I've been listening to has given me a bit of a Morelia bug on top of that. While I'm planning on focusing on boas if I expand in the future... well, let's just say I wouldn't be surprised to find a Papuan carpet hanging around here. ;)

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He's got some great looking locality boas hasn't he

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Yeah, he's got some nice ones. The Honduran fire belly is the one that really catches my eye. It sounds like there just aren't that many of them stateside.

Managed to somewhat catch Kuzco's blue head today. When he's in partial shade, his head is truly slate blue. I'm having a hard time picking it up on camera, but this captures it somewhat:

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Yeah, he's got some nice ones. The Honduran fire belly is the one that really catches my eye. It sounds like there just aren't that many of them stateside.

Managed to somewhat catch Kuzco's blue head today. When he's in partial shade, his head is truly slate blue. I'm having a hard time picking it up on camera, but this captures it somewhat:

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Great photo, it's so hard to capture the iridescence and certain colours especially on longicauda, they really are stunning and will only get better with age,.mine looked so normal looking when younger, so pleased with how they have aged.
Really look forward to watching the progression

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Kuzco is settling in well here. There are still a few days were he's hissy coming out of his viv, but they're less frequent and he's becoming much more settled while he's out. He's recently made a few appearances at virtual happy hours, including one by popular request! Even my non-snakey friends seem to appreciate a good longicauda. I hope he can continue to be a good ambassador for his subspecies.

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Great looking boa! Congrats!

Can't wait to see him in his adult colours, there change is so cool.
he's got A great headspear, so cool on longicauda

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Looks like this little sausage butt is heading into shed again. Took his measurements today and he came in at 75g and 20.8 inches. He only weighed 60g when I received him, so he put on whopping 25% of his starting body weight since he came home almost two months ago! It'll be interesting to see how much of that weight he loses when he finally poops -- he hasn't done so for me yet.

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Looks like this little sausage butt is heading into shed again. Took his measurements today and he came in at 75g and 20.8 inches. He only weighed 60g when I received him, so he put on whopping 25% of his starting body weight since he came home almost two months ago! It'll be interesting to see how much of that weight he loses when he finally poops -- he hasn't done so for me yet.

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Starting to darken up now, they just get. Better with each shed, there iridescence is so cool, like a natural img, look forward to after shed pics

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Looker! Keep it coming.

He's already looking amazing, will be really neat to see how he changes with age.

My BCL is one of my favorite snakes to handle. :)

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Sassy baby sure wasn't pleased when I disturbed him to humidify his enclosure! At least it's all huff and no bite -- he hasn't tried to tag me since I pulled him out of his shipping box.

Tip for any new keepers reading this: if you keep your snakes in a screen-topped glass enclosure and you're having trouble keeping your humidity up, try mixing in a bit of water to your substrate instead of misting extra. I've found that the gradual evaporation of water from the 1.5-2" of EcoEarth I put down in my 20L does a much better job of maintaining proper humidity level than repeated misting. Just don't add too much water! You don't want a soup -- just add water until the substrate isn't bone dry anymore. If the substrate is too damp, you run the risk of scale rot.

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Behira is a puppy dog, but even she will hiss a little if I bother her in blue. No bites, but hisses can happen :).

Cannot wait to see him after his shed. Keep us posted.

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What a difference a day can make. The first picture was Kuzco yesterday, the second was him today. This shed cycle is going much faster. Hopefully it's because he's comfortable! Now to wait and see how long it takes for him to shed out.

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Woah- that iridescence is beautiful, I love those pictures. Keep em coming!

Both my boas are in shed right now and look just like yours. My Argentine Boa in particular was less than thrilled about me checking under her hide. Sounded like I had stuck a nail in a tractor tire hah!


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Sassy baby sure wasn't pleased when I disturbed him to humidify his enclosure! At least it's all huff and no bite -- he hasn't tried to tag me since I pulled him out of his shipping box.

Tip for any new keepers reading this: if you keep your snakes in a screen-topped glass enclosure and you're having trouble keeping your humidity up, try mixing in a bit of water to your substrate instead of misting extra. I've found that the gradual evaporation of water from the 1.5-2" of EcoEarth I put down in my 20L does a much better job of maintaining proper humidity level than repeated misting. Just don't add too much water! You don't want a soup -- just add water until the substrate isn't bone dry anymore. If the substrate is too damp, you run the risk of scale rot.

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Boas are some of the best at this.

The look more mean than most when they hiss like that LOL!

Grumpy!

May the Fourth be with you! Enjoy a freshly shed longicauda.

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Congrats on your fine looking fella! :)

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Such a tiny boy! Hard to think he may hit 6' someday.

He ended up doing his business the day after he shed; a warm soak and a little bit of exercise seemed to help things along. He now weighs 64g empty. He's in a much better mood now, especially after another meal.

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What a looker! Gotta love the hissers. XD I have a female that would hiss at me every time she saw me, and continue to do so until I left. Now she only hisses at me once in a blue moon while in shed, and has yet to take a swipe at me since the beginning of the time I had her. I just roll my eyes at her.

And yes, dampening EcoEarth is so much more efficient! I figured that out pretty quick; I could spray the bedding till my arms went numb and I still wouldn't make a dent in the humidity. I've mixed in the water since.

What a nice looking boa. :gj:

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I like to call this series "Precious Bean on Various Area Rugs" [emoji14]

It's coming up on three months (!) since Kuzco came home. He's really seemed to open up the past few weeks and isn't as shy and hesitant as he used to be -- he's much more calm, collected, and openly curious now. It feels like he's finally settled in, and that makes me very happy.

I've been thinking of expanding my reptile hoard the past few weeks, and I've consistently reached the conclusion that I'd rather keep pairs of what I already have before branching out into new species. I know a few longicauda breeders now and there are a couple of pairings I'm tentatively keeping an eye on, one of which is happening this season. There's a non-zero chance Kuzco may not be an only longi for much longer -- stay tuned.

Bonus shot of Kuzco strongly resembling his sire (in my opinion):

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Oooh that's interesting, longis are really cool to keep that's for sure, I love my pair there not massive boas either and are more slender than a bci so I think they are really cool. There colour change is also amazing it's like a lucky dip to what you get, with starting off so ordinary looking, looks like the jet black is starting to kick in now, can't wait to see him as an adult

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Your little buddy is looking great!! I have never kept a bci or bcc and sort of regret it.. I see yours and other peeps pic and they are beautiful snakes. With these I would like to get them very young.....which would lead to the problem of the snake out living me (probably by many years lol). So i do the second options and admire other peeps pics....:gj: great pics!

Amazing eyes! Very beautiful!

He's looking awesome. It's going to be great to watch his colors change and intensity as he ages.

Keep up the good work!

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I think I have to find him new perches. He'd rather defy the laws of physics and dangle off the thermometer than sit on the cheap springy bamboo bars [emoji14]

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That's hilarious! :rofl: DIY hammock for a snake.

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I think I have to find him new perches. He'd rather defy the laws of physics and dangle off the thermometer than sit on the cheap springy bamboo bars [emoji14]

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The bamboo bars are too thick for him. I always go with the snake girth and I get the same diameter perches. Also adding a crossbar would help him.

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Thanks! That's a handy perch sizing rule -- I'm surprised I haven't heard anything like that elsewhere. I'm looking at the perches at Specialty Enclosure Designs and will probably pick something up from there.

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Never hesitate to make your own perches.

I actually recommend some real tree branches or trunks if you can mix them in. When the animal grows you can increase the perch size.

I have some pretty big stuff in the cages here.

The snake looks phenomenal though!!

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Somebody's looking a little blue! He's been putting on some good growth since he got here -- about 1.5" in three months. Very proud of this handsome little guy.

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Fresh paint and looking fine! Shed cycle only took eight days this time. He seems to be developing what I like to call "dual tone" coloration -- gold along his back and silver on his sides. Can't wait to see how he continues to develop!

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So nice. I love it when there true colours start to kick in, so exciting

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