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Alice, The Titanium Reticulated Python
Hello!
Just got my new female titanium reticulated python in the mail from Prehistoric Pets. She's very pretty. Here's some pictures:
https://i.imgur.com/hNkQhqT.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/jZpDoK0.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/5TB2WhP.jpg
This will be her progress thread.
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Re: Alice, The Titanium Reticulated Python
Great stripe and colour
Sent from my CLT-L09 using Tapatalk
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I will be very curious to hear how the retic and scrub compare.
Is this your first retic?
Is she pure mainland?
Keep the updates coming.
Congrats.
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Re: Alice, The Titanium Reticulated Python
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I will be very curious to hear how the retic and scrub compare.
Is this your first retic?
Is she pure mainland?
Keep the updates coming.
Congrats.
Yes and yes.
She did not want to be held coming out of the bag (understandable). Flighty, not bitey. She'll definitely overshadow the scrub!
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Re: Alice, The Titanium Reticulated Python
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Yes and yes.
She did not want to be held coming out of the bag (understandable). Flighty, not bitey. She'll definitely overshadow the scrub!
I'd should have been more specific.
I'm interested in the behaviors. What is similar and what is different between the two? My Dwarf X SD X mainland, male is very arboreal even at 9 feet long. He is extremely active and very fast. The Timor python resembles a cross between a scrub and retic to me. As for the Aussie pythons, I feel the scrub may be the closest relative to the retic, at least their behaviors in the wild have been reported to be similar. That's why I'm so interested.
I doubt you'll be able to get a good grasp on the differences and similarities in such a short time, but you are the only one I know that has both species.
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Awesome looking girl. I got my Platinum Titanium girl Aurora from them. She is great animal. Best wishes to you both.
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Originally Posted by Gio
I'd should have been more specific.
I'm interested in the behaviors. What is similar and what is different between the two? My Dwarf X SD X mainland, male is very arboreal even at 9 feet long. He is extremely active and very fast. The Timor python resembles a cross between a scrub and retic to me. As for the Aussie pythons, I feel the scrub may be the closest relative to the retic, at least their behaviors in the wild have been reported to be similar. That's why I'm so interested.
I doubt you'll be able to get a good grasp on the differences and similarities in such a short time, but you are the only one I know that has both species.
Sure, I definitely need more time to really get a picture, but from this one experience, she is definitely not as fast as my scrub (or maybe she wasn't trying to be, so take that with a grain of salt). My scrub tends to stay in the hides throughout the day and climb around the branches at night. I have read that young retics are inclined to be more aboreal, but they lose that desire as they get bigger (or rather the ability). It would have to be a strong branch to support a full grown retic. I wonder how "arboreal" they would really choose to be though. What I mean by that is, an emerald tree boa will try to find the highest perch possible, no matter what, where as retic behavior may just want to be off the ground. There is also the glaring difference between them being that my scrub is presumably wild caught and this retic is captive bred.
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Got home and it looked like she had a splash contest in her water dish. Lesson learned with what is the acceptable level of full.
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Re: Alice, The Titanium Reticulated Python
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Sure, I definitely need more time to really get a picture, but from this one experience, she is definitely not as fast as my scrub (or maybe she wasn't trying to be, so take that with a grain of salt). My scrub tends to stay in the hides throughout the day and climb around the branches at night. I have read that young retics are inclined to be more aboreal, but they lose that desire as they get bigger (or rather the ability). It would have to be a strong branch to support a full grown retic. I wonder how "arboreal" they would really choose to be though. What I mean by that is, an emerald tree boa will try to find the highest perch possible, no matter what, where as retic behavior may just want to be off the ground. There is also the glaring difference between them being that my scrub is presumably wild caught and this retic is captive bred.
They most certainly don't loose their ability.
It is too bad the photos are blurry here do to PhotoBucket and their new policies.
http://reptilescanada.com/threads/re...haviour.57185/
Those are full grown retics perched very high up.
The species is much more arboreal than most think and there are several wild examples perched in the canopy that are not juveniles.
This has been around a while on the TUBE.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Aze5pRETgM
When there is food, they climb. The dwarf and especially the SD species tend to have a diet partially based on the migration of birds. They are smaller and probably climb more.
But there are mammals that live in the trees.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lfz9ar5Y_bw
Emerald tree boas are a completely arboreal species so you can't compare them. They breed and give birth in the canopy. Retics, boa constrictors and carpet pythons are semi arboreal, but do much more climbing than most folks think.
I believe this because most keepers can't provide, or simply choose not to provide the "options" that allow the species to preform natural behaviors.
With a retic I find it very understandable as the enclosure size would have to be very large.
Here's my 9 footer at his favorite ambush point.
https://i.imgur.com/xtq1KCQ.jpg
All that said, I don't want to hijack your thread. I am very interested in what you see similar and different in the two species.
I almost went the scrub route, but ended up with a feisty, male retic.
Your girl looks beautiful.
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When I mentioned the ETB I wasnt necessarily trying to compare them, just saying that there's different levels of arboreal. But from your examples, they're a lot more arboreal than I realized. I need to try to accommodate that when I get her final enclosure.
This explains the water:
https://i.imgur.com/O61elHA.jpg
Need to figure out how I'm gonna stop her from flooding her tub constantly.
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What a gorgeous girl!:sweeet:
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That behavior (submerging) seems to be similar to my guy's at an early age.
Wallace would go into his bowl shortly after eating a screw around going in and out and flushing water all over the cage.
I use a combination of coco just and either bark or cypress so it absorbs some of it.
He's older now and seems less into the submersion.
You may have a hard time if your girl is projected to get big. Perches and ceiling in a very large cage for most hobbyists may not be practical at all.
If I could, I'd have a much larger cage for my guy.
A buddy here, EL-Ziggy has a scrub and an olive amongst his other awesome captives.
I'm sure you and Zig would have a lot to chat about when it comes to scrubs.
Your girl will get a lot larger than my retic, but I'll bet she'll be a lot more mellow.
Again, congrats on the new pickup!
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That behavior (submerging) seems to be similar to my guy's at an early age.
Wallace would go into his bowl shortly after eating a screw around going in and out and flushing water all over the cage.
I use a combination of coco just and either bark or cypress so it absorbs some of it.
He's older now and seems less into the submersion.
You may have a hard time if your girl is projected to get big. Perches and ceiling in a very large cage for most hobbyists may not be practical at all.
If I could, I'd have a much larger cage for my guy.
A buddy here, EL-Ziggy has a scrub and an olive amongst his other awesome captives.
I'm sure you and Zig would have a lot to chat about when it comes to scrubs.
Your girl will get a lot larger than my retic, but I'll bet she'll be a lot more mellow.
Again, congrats on the new pickup!
Yea, we chatted a bit in the thread I made dedicated to the scrub.
She's supposed to get very big, so I'll definitely need to move out of my apartment, which I'm planning to do next year to my own house.
Plus I have an alligator snapper I have to house, so most of my pets are gonna get big!
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She ate! Easily and instead of a mouse, what she is used to eating, I tried a rat. Success!
https://youtu.be/4fKZL6YObr8
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Ate again. I feel like I'm noticing some growth already.
https://i.imgur.com/TlM6Vjt.jpg
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Woah! She is absolutely stunning!
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Bumped her up to small rats and she did good. She did grab onto my tongs, claiming them for herself, but she finally let go and tried again.
https://i.imgur.com/OlcXLgI.jpg
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Got to love the retics for their curiosity. They play with things, move things around, and both of mine love interaction.
Would you say that your experience over all has been a good one with her? Mine are thriving and wonderful creatures.
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Got to love the retics for their curiosity. They play with things, move things around, and both of mine love interaction.
Would you say that your experience over all has been a good one with her? Mine are thriving and wonderful creatures.
Yea, this is my first experience with a retic, and I am pretty stunned how curious she is. Her head is always out of her hide. You walk by and she's like oh what's going on? (Though sometimes striking the tub) And you take off the lid and she thinks its time to go. And she's a spaz when eating with a ravenous appetite.
One morning I was turning back over one of her hides on one side and she was totally in her hide on the other side. She struck at me from her hide across the full length of the tub (3 feet). I am pretty surprised with how brazen she is.
I haven't started handling her yet, but I probably will soon. Definitely need to get her accustomed to handling before she gets really big. The breeder was obviously slow feeding her, and I'm not, so I already see noticeable growth.
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Decided to do a little handling before I go home for christmas.
I did hear her breathing, particularly when she was trying to get away the first minute or two. I'd like to hear your thoughts? But I dont think its RI. Maybe it was normally breathing or going to shed soon?
https://i.imgur.com/KEllF25.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/aZuP3e4.jpg
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Okay, after some research, it seems that retics are particularly heavy breathers? Freaked me out because I have never heard my other snakes breath, but I'm going with it being normal.
Especially because I got up close and personal (clearly) and I did not see mucus or hear popping.
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Yup both of mine are very audible. On top of the heavy breathing, sometimes they makes a whistle you can hear from several feet away.
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Yup both of mine are very audible. On top of the heavy breathing, sometimes they makes a whistle you can hear from several feet away.
So are both of mine. A hiss from a retic is also impressive.
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She shed today. I didn't realize she was in shed, but that explains why she was in her warm hide more than usual. There was one long piece, but it did break up quite a bit too; the humidity is 70%.
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...om/Ng3XCjL.jpg
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Got her a new water dish from target so she could fit all the way. I'll be finished with her new 6x2x2 within a week or two (waiting on pro products), cant wait to show everyone.
https://i.imgur.com/EO2xTPz.jpg
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Do you think she's more comfortable fitting in this water dish where she is touching all sides, or would she prefer more water, where she could sprawl out more? Wouldn't really be able to swin really but I could fit maybe 2' x 1-2'
https://i.imgur.com/7fq1YT5.jpg
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You could always try something bigger & see how she reacts to it? Very beautiful snake, btw. Quite the re-decorator too. ;)
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You could always try something bigger & see how she reacts to it? Very beautiful snake, btw. Quite the re-decorator too. ;)
Thanks.
Just changed it today, but I think she likes it. Shes been swimming around. Its gonna be hard to clean though.
https://i.imgur.com/4vbp49o.jpg
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For sure, bigger "swimming pools" can be messy & hard to deal with. But at least your snake will be having fun, driving you crazy! :rofl:
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For sure, bigger "swimming pools" can be messy & hard to deal with. But at least your snake will be having fun, driving you crazy! :rofl:
Of course, I wake up this morning and it was filled with poop...
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Almost 7 ft long. Shes growing fast.
https://i.imgur.com/cQ5gkVn.jpg
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She is gorgeous. I'd be all over a titanium if they were in dwarf or super dwarf, but I think a mainland is above my ability. Hopefully in a few years we will see some smaller lines coming out.
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She is gorgeous. I'd be all over a titanium if they were in dwarf or super dwarf, but I think a mainland is above my ability. Hopefully in a few years we will see some smaller lines coming out.
Me or the snake? :P
Yea, can’t imagine when she’s 20’!!! Good thing she’s sweet (mostly)
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She’s a beautiful beastie W! I almost snagged a retic but opted for the scrub instead. Now that you’ve had them for a while let’s circle back to Gio’s question. Have you noticed any differences/similarities between your retic and scrub in terms of temperament, growth rate, or feeding patterns? You have some awesome critters!
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Re: Alice, The Titanium Reticulated Python
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She’s a beautiful beastie W! I almost snagged a retic but opted for the scrub instead. Now that you’ve had them for a while let’s circle back to Gio’s question. Have you noticed any differences/similarities between your retic and scrub in terms of temperament, growth rate, or feeding patterns? You have some awesome critters!
Thank you very much!
Huge differences!
- Retic is sweet once tapped with the hook, scrub will bite you if you look at it.
- The trick to handling the scrub is be quick and confident. The scrub is the fastest snake I’ve ever seen, unless you catch it before it’s ready. Open the cage and bam grab it. If you try that with a retic, you’re food.
- Growth rate is not too dissimilar actually, I’d say without the hard numbers in front of me. However, I am stunned how fast my scrub is growing. It is longer than my retic, and my retic is 9ft. Based on the rate of growth, I wouldn’t be surprised if I end up with an impressively sized scrub.
- Feeding patterns are quite different too. Scrub goes on and off food periodically. I switch between rats and quail. It will not eat during shed. It will also not eat with me in the room; I leave the food overnight. Retic will eat anything, anytime with ferocity.
In conclusion, get a retic! My scrub is an awesome and impressive snake, but it is not a replacement for a retic, IMO. Plus, you can pick up some nice looking morphs for way too cheap. Retics probably should not be that accessible lol
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