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I just found Luna dead.

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  • 09-18-2019, 05:40 PM
    Skyrivers
    I just found Luna dead.
    No clue as to why. She was almost a year old. I'm pretty upset. All the rest of my animals appear to be fine. She ate yesterday. She's not even stuff yet but completely unresponsive.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...17a5216818.jpg

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  • 09-18-2019, 05:46 PM
    Bogertophis
    Oh no...I'm so sorry for your loss! I'm truly shocked. :tears: Rest in peace, Luna.
  • 09-18-2019, 05:50 PM
    303_enfield
    Sorry for your lose. Only way to know what happened is to pay a Rep Vet to do a necropsy.

    Did you feed live?
  • 09-18-2019, 05:52 PM
    Skyrivers
    Re: I just found Luna dead.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 303_enfield View Post
    Sorry for your lose. Only way to know what happened is to pay a Rep Vet to do a necropsy.

    Did you feed live?

    I never feed live

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  • 09-18-2019, 06:08 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    It's always tough I have seen animals dying during feeding (in the middle of constriction) and or within 24 hours and in both cases it was ruptured aneurysm not say it is that but it can be, sometime having a necropsy is a good piece of mind especially when you have other animals.
  • 09-18-2019, 06:16 PM
    richardhind1972
    Re: I just found Luna dead.
    Sorry to hear that sky

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  • 09-18-2019, 06:40 PM
    rlditmars
    Re: I just found Luna dead.
    Condolences Sky.
  • 09-18-2019, 08:08 PM
    John1982
    Sorry for your loss.
  • 09-18-2019, 08:19 PM
    Craiga 01453
    So sorry for your loss. Rest in peace, Luna.
  • 09-18-2019, 08:38 PM
    CloudtheBoa
    So sorry for your loss. :(

    If you still have the body, refridgerate it and have necropsy done. If your vet will ship it, you can go through them, but that might be more costly than taking it straight to a veterinary diagnostic lab. See if they can test the stomach. I had all of my rainbow boas die from similar symptoms, and when I talked with a representative at the University of Florida, one of the vets there said he's noticed rainbow boas tend to have a strange condition. If your vet will ship, maybe even consider shipping to them! They may be more knowledgeable than a normal vet performing a necropsy.

    It might not 100% show cause of death, but it may give you an idea.
  • 09-18-2019, 08:44 PM
    Bogertophis
    Re: I just found Luna dead.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CloudtheBoa View Post
    ... I had all of my rainbow boas die from similar symptoms, and when I talked with a representative at the University of Florida, one of the vets there said he's noticed rainbow boas tend to have a strange condition...

    First, I'm so sorry for your losses as well. How long has it been? How many did you lose? That's just so sad, they're such beautiful snakes. :(

    Is this thought to be an inherited defect of some kind? Or something contagious, if you (or they) know? Thanks for adding your information here,
    "mysteries love company"- but I hope the vets can figure out what's causing this sad situation & can help in the future.
  • 09-18-2019, 08:47 PM
    CloudtheBoa
    Re: I just found Luna dead.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    First, I'm so sorry for your losses as well. How long has it been? How many did you lose? That's just so sad, they're such beautiful snakes. :(

    Is this thought to be an inherited defect of some kind? Or something contagious, if you (or they) know? Thanks for adding your information here, mysteries love company-
    I hope the vets can figure out what's causing this sad situation & can help.

    Thank you. The first death happened in Nov 2015, and the last one died April 2018. 3 BRBs died with regurgitation and weight loss. The fourth one escaped while my mom was caring for her, and was either eaten by my anery motley boa or just gone.

    I’m not sure, from what I was told, they’re still researching.


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  • 09-18-2019, 09:08 PM
    Bogertophis
    Under the circumstances, then, I really hope that Skyrivers sends Luna in for a necropsy too...I hope they get some answers, it's very disturbing. It's not like you're
    some newbie keepers or anything either. This shouldn't be happening. Poor snakes...ugh. (I assume they ruled out some nasties with yours?)
  • 09-18-2019, 09:15 PM
    CloudtheBoa
    Re: I just found Luna dead.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    Under the circumstances, then, I really hope that Skyrivers sends Luna in for a necropsy too...I hope they get some answers, it's very disturbing. It's not like you're
    some newbie keepers or anything either. This shouldn't be happening. Poor snakes...ugh. (I assume they ruled out some nasties with yours?)

    One came back with an odd case of renal coccidiosis, the other septicemia. In the case of septicemia, she died without any symptoms beyond one regurgitation and she died before I could feed her again. I had her maybe 2 months. The other was supposedly born with a regurgitation problem, and a necropsy wasn’t performed on the third. It’s strange only the BRBs were affected, and the necropsy results were different...they all came from the same breeder, too.

    BRBs are fairly delicate snakes. I’ve never had an issue with any other species. I may try my luck again, with a different breeder, but if things go the same way I’ll swear off them. Lol


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  • 09-18-2019, 09:28 PM
    Bogertophis
    Re: I just found Luna dead.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CloudtheBoa View Post
    One came back with an odd case of renal coccidiosis, the other septicemia. In the case of septicemia, she died without any symptoms beyond one regurgitation and she died before I could feed her again. I had her maybe 2 months. The other was supposedly born with a regurgitation problem, and a necropsy wasn’t performed on the third. It’s strange only the BRBs were affected, and the necropsy results were different...they all came from the same breeder, too.

    BRBs are fairly delicate snakes. I’ve never had an issue with any other species. I may try my luck again, with a different breeder, but if things go the same way I’ll swear off them. Lol


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    Sounds like some inbreeding &/or other "breeder conditions" contributed to your losses, with all being from the same source. I wonder who Skyrivers got his from?
    Yours are just too much to be a coincidence, IMO. Again, so sorry...it's hard to go thru that sort of thing, & sad for those working with these pretty creatures.

    And no one, certainly not me, could blame you if you never felt like working with them again.
  • 09-18-2019, 10:41 PM
    FollowTheSun
    Awwww so sorry!
  • 09-18-2019, 10:53 PM
    Valyndris
    I am so sorry for your loss, it is always so hard when losing a pet.
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  • 09-19-2019, 09:59 AM
    Danger noodles
    I’m so sorry Sky!!!

    I also wanted a brb and one of my good friends that owns a shop here in Houston told me how so many of them just drop dead and convinced me to stay away. It’s sad because I think they may be the best looking snake out there.
  • 09-19-2019, 10:00 AM
    Danger noodles
    Re: I just found Luna dead.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by CloudtheBoa View Post
    One came back with an odd case of renal coccidiosis, the other septicemia. In the case of septicemia, she died without any symptoms beyond one regurgitation and she died before I could feed her again. I had her maybe 2 months. The other was supposedly born with a regurgitation problem, and a necropsy wasn’t performed on the third. It’s strange only the BRBs were affected, and the necropsy results were different...they all came from the same breeder, too.

    BRBs are fairly delicate snakes. I’ve never had an issue with any other species. I may try my luck again, with a different breeder, but if things go the same way I’ll swear off them. Lol


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    I remember your posts about yours passing. We had a conversation about your avatar wearing a slipknot shirt
  • 09-19-2019, 02:54 PM
    EL-Ziggy
    Re: I just found Luna dead.
    Sorry for your loss Sky. RIP Luna. :(
  • 09-19-2019, 03:55 PM
    MasonC2K
    It always sucks losing an pet. My condolences.
  • 09-19-2019, 06:05 PM
    bcr229
    I'm sorry. It hurts when you do everything right and your pet still passes away.
  • 09-23-2019, 07:29 AM
    Skyrivers
    Re: I just found Luna dead.
    Thanks everyone. Luna was my only BRB and was going to be a year old. She had eaten the day before. Pre-killed prey. I don't feed live. So many questions. Just working on the move to the new house for now and hope to get everyone moved safely.
  • 09-23-2019, 11:10 AM
    Bogertophis
    Re: I just found Luna dead.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Skyrivers View Post
    Thanks everyone. Luna was my only BRB and was going to be a year old. She had eaten the day before. Pre-killed prey. I don't feed live. So many questions. Just working on the move to the new house for now and hope to get everyone moved safely.

    Did you try to have a necropsy done? Lousy timing for you, not that there's ever a good time to lose a pet. :( Moving is such a hassle.
  • 09-23-2019, 12:16 PM
    Skyrivers
    Re: I just found Luna dead.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Bogertophis View Post
    Did you try to have a necropsy done? Lousy timing for you, not that there's ever a good time to lose a pet. :( Moving is such a hassle.

    I put her in freezer. Might get it done after move.
  • 09-23-2019, 12:47 PM
    Bogertophis
    I hope it yields some helpful information then, if you have it done. From what others said, probably nothing you could have done anyway, but it still sucks.
  • 09-23-2019, 01:35 PM
    bcr229
    Re: I just found Luna dead.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Skyrivers View Post
    I put her in freezer. Might get it done after move.

    If you want a necro done the critter needs to go into the refrigerator, never the freezer, as freezing destroys tissue.
  • 09-23-2019, 05:36 PM
    dr del
    Re: I just found Luna dead.
    So sorry you lost her. :(
  • 09-23-2019, 09:27 PM
    Danger noodles
    Hey sky if u need a hand moving I’m willing to help u out!

    Anyone in the Houston area ever need any help I’d be willing to help.
  • 09-24-2019, 08:47 AM
    Skyrivers
    Re: I just found Luna dead.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bcr229 View Post
    If you want a necro done the critter needs to go into the refrigerator, never the freezer, as freezing destroys tissue.


    Guess I screwed up.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Danger noodles View Post
    Hey sky if u need a hand moving I’m willing to help u out!

    Anyone in the Houston area ever need any help I’d be willing to help.

    Thanks man. I have movers coming. Big heavy cages and 2 large incubators are heavy.

    - - - Updated - - -

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dr del View Post
    So sorry you lost her. :(

    Thanks
  • 09-24-2019, 11:05 AM
    FollowTheSun
    Re: I just found Luna dead.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bcr229 View Post
    If you want a necro done the critter needs to go into the refrigerator, never the freezer, as freezing destroys tissue.

    True to some extent, but maybe if there was some anatomical problem, they would still be able to find that.
  • 10-03-2019, 06:29 PM
    cletus
    Very sorry to hear this..
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