Introduce a new animal to captive breeding

I wanted to know what you guys would bring to the CB market if you could start a project with any herp that doesn't have an established captive population. For me it would definitely be the Machete Savane (Amazon Whipsnake) a 9 foot colubrid is my dream snake for sure. :)

Sunbeam Snake. There are very few CBB critters available, most are WC or LTC, especially in the US.

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Whipsnake

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That's mine too!

Desert glossy snakes...hatchlings are tiny & hard to get feeding on pinky mice, but adults are such nice pets, & stay small- very graceful & pretty creatures.

sunbeam and desert glossy snakes are gorgeous. I had heard of them but never really looked into them. Machete Savane still takes the cake for me but it's really interesting seeing everyone's responses.

I don't know if these species qualify as being introduced to captive breeding since they are bred in captivity, but they're still pretty uncommon in the pet hobby.

I'd like to see more mangroves, white lips and Angolan Pythons in the hobby. They're hard to come by and many are still WC.

I really just meant things that aren't very established in captivity. Anything that's easier to find wild caught than captive bred, or can't be found either way at all.

Coachwhips. They usually don't acclimate to captivity very well at all, which is largely why you don't see them, but since we're talking hypotheticals... let's pretend they're willing to eat and settle down after a couple generations. I just think they're really pretty and I like them a lot.

Coachwhips is a great choice I didn't even think of those. We have them around here and I've seen a few definitely a gorgeous snake.

Viper Boa

I haven't looked into how picky or unlikely to reproduce in captivity they are but if it's possible they would make amazing captive animals. A very reasonable size for a very amazing snake.

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Viper Boa

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Another of mine too...thanks for reminding me. :D

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I haven't looked into how picky or unlikely to reproduce in captivity they are but if it's possible they would make amazing captive animals. A very reasonable size for a very amazing snake.

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From what I understand they are very difficult to breed. There is a CB one at the exotic pet store I visit, but its $400. I've been debating about it for the past month or so.

I definitely understand your pain.:P

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Coachwhips is a great choice I didn't even think of those. We have them around here and I've seen a few definitely a gorgeous snake.

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They may be a "great choice" for us, but not for the coachwhips themselves. They're VERY active snakes that don't do well in captivity, & even in a large cage there's no
comparison to the great open spaces & natural sunshine outdoors. (I've had one for a while...it had been turned over to me from someone no longer wanting it.) While
a few dedicated keepers with a spare room (for a walk-in habitat for the snake!) may do alright, I'd HATE to see these sold as pets, because very few people will do right
by them. :( That's MY first consideration, not how pretty the snake looks as someone's possession.

I agree 100 percent for a hypothetical world where the husbandry is done perfect and they thrive I think they would be amazing but as of right now very few people could give them what they need to live full happy lives.

Gopher tortoise. I used to keep them before they became endangered. They are easy to find in GA and FL if you know where to look.

Ringneck Snakes - they're SO stinkin tiny and adorable! But they're hard to keep in captivity :( I've seen a wild one on the famr, and a friend recently sent me a pic of one she found in her basement, but I told her to set it free outside (for some reason, since folks know I keep snakes, they seem to think they should also keep every garter and black snake in the area and give it to me as a pet lol)

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They may be a "great choice" for us, but not for the coachwhips themselves. They're VERY active snakes that don't do well in captivity, & even in a large cage there's no
comparison to the great open spaces & natural sunshine outdoors. (I've had one for a while...it had been turned over to me from someone no longer wanting it.) While
a few dedicated keepers with a spare room (for a walk-in habitat for the snake!) may do alright, I'd HATE to see these sold as pets, because very few people will do right
by them. :( That's MY first consideration, not how pretty the snake looks as someone's possession.

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That's really good to know. I almost bought one recently.

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Ringneck Snakes - they're SO stinkin tiny and adorable! But they're hard to keep in captivity :( I've seen a wild one on the famr, and a friend recently sent me a pic of one she found in her basement, but I told her to set it free outside (for some reason, since folks know I keep snakes, they seem to think they should also keep every garter and black snake in the area and give it to me as a pet lol)

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Yes!! I wish they were more hardy.

Re coachwhips:

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That's really good to know. I almost bought one recently...

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The other thing that won't be so convenient is feeding them. They are NOT constrictors, they gulp down their prey, & while they have a good-sized mouth & may accept
f/t, they have a long skinny body that's not conducive to taking large prey, & since they're active by day (love warm sunshine) they're always hungry & always "grazing".
They accept a varied diet, but with a fast metabolism that thrives on numerous small prey items (instead of one big meal every 2 weeks like many of our pets) they're on
the messy side as a captive. So be careful what you wish for...a long beautiful snake that may live 20 years sounds great until you find out how often it needs to eat and
how messy the large cage it needs will be, day after day. They get over 6' long & they're not real happy having "walls" around them. Just know what you're getting into.
I think they're awesome in nature though. (they were local when I lived in So Calif desert)

Brahminy Blind Snakes

These have always fascinated me even more so than the Ring Necks or Earth Snakes. Literally one of the coolest animals in this dudes book, and I'd LOVE to have them in captivity.

Paul

Id like to see more Rubber Boas

Always had a soft spot for Mexican Burrowing 'Pythons'. I'd love to see more of those little guys being produced.

i think Red-Tailed Pipe Snakes (Cylindrophis ruffus) would be really kool!

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...Pipe-Snake.jpg

Komodo Dragons :)

Komodo dragons would definitley be a handful:P. I wish you luck in your indevours.:D

Plenty of these are animals I had either hardly or not at all heard of. It is really something special being able to talk to so many people with similair interests.

i gave it a go with peter's banded skinks and it ended horribly. they all died within a week despite my research. husband and i think we got the rejects from the batch that was imported but it was still heart-breaking.

Those poor babies. Theres a lot of risk that comes with getting imports. Definitley a scary move, but you were doing it for all the right reasons. I hope someone else can have some success. They are definitley one of the more interesting lizards to watch do their thing.

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Id like to see more Rubber Boas

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There are quite a few breeders of these out there, you just have to know where to look.


I would like to see more CBB Megophrys and Ceratophrys cornuta.


I am currently working with kukri and beaked snakes and hope to be successful with one or the other or both in a few years

If you can, definitely keep us updated. I'm interested in seeing where that project goes and what you can learn along the way.

Boelens Pythons and Sheltopusiks!

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Sheltopusiks!

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Those look so sketchy.

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Those look so sketchy.

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They’re fantastic. I’m currently on a campaign to get one, just have to get someone to adopt my children so I have the room...

Eastern Indigo

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Just watched a documentary with these supposedly endangered snakes, called the Gabino Viper, it is a hybrid of a Gaboon Viper and a Rhinoceros Viper. It looks so awesome! Here is a picture I found on google. Such an amazing pattern along with those cool looking horns.
https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...017/01/1-1.jpg

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They’re fantastic. I’m currently on a campaign to get one, just have to get someone to adopt my children so I have the room...

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:rofl: And hey, thanks for mentioning Sheltopusiks...after a quick review, now I want one too! :D They eat almost anything & can live a very long time...cool creatures!

so this weekend i obtained a healthy peters banded skink. as heartbreaking as my last "project" was, i am giving it a go. s/he's been in the country over a year so he is well-established. alert with a great appetite. once his quarantine period is over, and possibly a vet visit, i will add more to hopefully establish a breeding group.

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