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  • 11-07-2005, 03:51 PM
    ballpythonandragon
    Carpets not good pets
    A friend of mine says carpets are very hard to tame and are not very good snakes to keep. He says they are misstaken that they are easy to care for and people are miss lead. What do you all have to say Ive wanted one for a while also. Any Pros/cons? Aaron
  • 11-07-2005, 03:57 PM
    Smulkin
    Re: Carpets not good pets
    Well - like many species they can be nippy when young. And like ALL species each individual will vary according to individuality lol - universal statements are universally inapplicable lol. I don't advise buying ANY herp "blind". You'd do well to hit a couple of shows and interact with some snakes and talk to the breeders before you launch into that venture.
  • 11-07-2005, 04:02 PM
    ballpythonandragon
    Re: Carpets not good pets
    Im not taking up for this guy at all im just saying he believes they are not to easy to care for ive done alot of research on this snake and im considering on buy one he said he could get a carpet in for 55.00 CBC what do suggest that is do take him up on the deal or go to someone else?
  • 11-07-2005, 04:08 PM
    Smulkin
    Re: Carpets not good pets
    I dont consider ours MUCH harder to care for than BPs. We have a Jungle and a Coastal - both juveniles. They are a bit more "upwardly mobile" (less terrestrial) than BPs and if given the furnishings will climb and perch. The Carpet took a while to transition off mice. As juvies both are noticably nippier than the other snakes in the house (the female fuscus being the exception).

    What other snakes does this chap keep?
  • 11-07-2005, 04:09 PM
    BiGBaLLiN
    Re: Carpets not good pets
    someone else. is this guy a breeder? 55$ is pretty cheap imo for a jcp. try to attend more shows and get a captive bred juvie from a reputable breeder.
  • 11-07-2005, 04:16 PM
    ballpythonandragon
    Re: Carpets not good pets
    right now he is keeping some balls,2 juvi redtails , 3 burms, corns, gophers and your usual lizards and such . Also he suggested for me not to keep using UVB/UVA bulb for my dragon
    he seams to be a nice guy and all but he a small petstore owner he is not a breeder. i almost bought a redtail off of him but im kinda sceptial about laying down 150.00 for a juvi BCI right now He also has a banana corn that i want for 50.00 is that a rare snake ?
  • 11-07-2005, 04:30 PM
    ladywhipple02
    Re: Carpets not good pets
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ballpythonandragon
    He suggested for me not to keep using UVB/UVA bulb for my dragon

    Um, as far as I know, UVB is essential to dragons' development. They get bone development problems if you don't use one.

    Sounds like this guy is giving you bad advice, and just trying to get your money by getting you to buy something more expensive... I wouldn't purchase from him, personally, but it's your decision.
  • 11-07-2005, 06:59 PM
    wendyhoo9
    Re: Carpets not good pets
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ballpythonandragon
    He also has a banana corn that i want for 50.00 is that a rare snake ?

    I've never heard of a banana corn before. There are some yellowish - yellow corns that are called ambers, caramels and butters. Most pet stores make up creative (or not) names for morphs. I'd check out Rich Serpenco's site, as he has one of the more extensive collection of corn snake morphs out there and I've never seen banana on it (there's also a corn snake morph guide and banana isn't in it either).

    Personally, this guy doesn't sound like he knows what he's talking about...not giving Dragons' their necessary UV's = metabolic bone disaster. Doesn't sound like a person I'd deal with, but like others have said, the decision is up to you.
  • 11-07-2005, 08:52 PM
    alexrls
    Re: Carpets not good pets
    ive had a carpet for about a year now and everyorning i sit up in my bed and sink my toes into it and wiggle them for like 10 minutes i love carpet:D
  • 11-07-2005, 09:32 PM
    reptile-girl
    Re: Carpets not good pets
    well, STEVE IRWIN said that they are not very good pets at all, and ARE hard to tame. anyway ive seen them at the petstore they do look cool though :-]
  • 11-07-2005, 09:38 PM
    Shelby
    Re: Carpets not good pets
    I've seen and held tame ones. Fabulous animals.

    I plan on adding them to my collection at some point.

    As was mentioned before, most baby boids are little *bleeps* ..with time they tame down. Heck, my anaconda is taming already.. less than a month ago she was a jerk! ;)
  • 11-07-2005, 10:52 PM
    CTReptileRescue
    Re: Carpets not good pets
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil.../5/Cnv0366.jpg
    Right now we are kept by:
    0.1.1 Coastal
    0.1.0 Central
    0.1.0 Diamond
    The juvis as stated by someonme else can be a bit nippy but they aren't that bad. I think if you can have an ATB you could deal with carpet attitude.
    Our adults are used in educational programs and do quite well. They are great specimens to show off the heat pits.
    Adults when worked with can be pushed a bit. Not as much as say a ball or maybe even a common boa, but they are definitely workable.
    As for prices I really couldn't help with what's fair game these days. But I would definitely reccomend going to a reputable breeder with captive bred pythons.
    Hope my two cents may have helped
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil.../5/Cnv0317.jpg
    Thanks
    Rusty
  • 11-07-2005, 11:08 PM
    Shelby
    Re: Carpets not good pets
    Ooh, Rusty, you have a diamond python? I'd love to see pics.. they're on my 'someday' list.
  • 11-07-2005, 11:21 PM
    Jeanne
    Re: Carpets not good pets
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ballpythonandragon
    right now he is keeping some balls,2 juvi redtails , 3 burms, corns, gophers and your usual lizards and such . Also he suggested for me not to keep using UVB/UVA bulb for my dragon

    Dragons must have uv's period! For this guy to tell you to not use them, it will spell nothing but disaster for you and whatever dragon/dragons you have. If he has dragons and does not use uv's, he is irresponsible and an idiot. He obviously does not know proper husbandry. Therefor, I would not even buy from him because he is giving you bad advice. Then again, he is a pet shop owner, maybe he wants you to lose whatever dragon/dragons you have now so you will spend more $ at his shop replacing the ones he told you how to kill.
  • 11-08-2005, 12:43 AM
    Schlyne
    Re: Carpets not good pets
    Ok, I've been keeping IJCPs since Jan. I've only ever gotten tagged once and he had been shipped to me about two or three weeks before, so he was still in the "settling in, AH What's that? It's going to EAT ME" phase. And who wouldn't be a bit grumpy after sitting around in a dark box and being hurlted through the air? I let him tag me on purpose. He settled down after he realized he was still going to be handled and that I wasn't going to eat him.

    It's my opinion that this guy really doesn't know what he's talking about, especially when it comes to the UVA/UVB on the beardie.

    Shedding wise, the carpets are slightly easier. Maybe that's just the way I have them set up, but that's how it works for me.

    Carpet pythons can be nippy as babbies. You can always get the odd snake out that isn't going to setttle down, but that's true for any species. A carpet python isn't a "pick me up and move me" snake like a bp is, but it's not some wild strking monster not suitable for a pet.

    Go to a breeder, and completely ditch the pet store if you can. Unforunately, a LOT of people in the pet store business don't know what they're doing when it comes to inverts, reptiles and amphibians. I would think that if you have an ATB, dealing with carpet attitude shouldn't be a big deal.

    Here's a pretty good care listing on carpets if you're interested.
    http://www.acreptiles.com/carpet_python_care.htm
  • 11-08-2005, 02:27 AM
    ballpythonandragon
    Re: Carpets not good pets
    See I've had my Beardie for almost 5 years now and he's done great I just asked him why he didn't use UVA/UVB bulbs for the petstore reptiles and he said they are only out there to make money off of people and they don't need them to live. But see I've done known they have to have it to be healthy. SO don't worry Im not going to do things that he suggest. Where should I look for a Nice Carpet at decent price?
  • 11-08-2005, 10:20 AM
    Shelby
    Re: Carpets not good pets
    Look on kingsnake.com and fauna classifieds.
  • 11-08-2005, 11:01 AM
    Jeanne
    Re: Carpets not good pets
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ballpythonandragon
    See I've had my Beardie for almost 5 years now and he's done great I just asked him why he didn't use UVA/UVB bulbs for the petstore reptiles and he said they are only out there to make money off of people and they don't need them to live. But see I've done known they have to have it to be healthy. SO don't worry Im not going to do things that he suggest. Where should I look for a Nice Carpet at decent price?

    I am glad that you do realize that a beardie does NEED those lights to be healthy. Please continue to use them with yours regardless of what this guy says. But ofcourse, these products are out there to make $ for the company, but there is more to it than that, some animals just require uv type lighting, and it just so happens that companies make the products we need to keep our animals healthy since they are not in the wild. However, some products are better than others you just have to do the research to find out which.

    This guys advice to you makes me cringe seeing as though it is bad advice. Makes me wanna call him and educate him ..... or something like that. ;)

    If you plan on buying this snake you are talking about, go to a breeder, not this guy, look at ads on kingsnake or fauna for your needs/wants.
  • 11-08-2005, 01:55 PM
    ballpythonandragon
    Re: Carpets not good pets
    How do you make sure they a good breeder and not another guy that inbreeds and over breeds. What kind of price am i going to be looking at for a baby RTB because i want to start off with a young to get the snake used to me and being around the young nieces and baby down the road.
  • 11-08-2005, 02:25 PM
    ladywhipple02
    Re: Carpets not good pets
    Ask around, check the BOI at Faunaclassifieds.com.


    If you want a nice RTB, check him out: Clay English He's got some beautiful high orange pastels right now for pretty cheap prices (100 dollars shipped on these guys and they just get more orange the older they go). And Clay's a great guy.

    Also, Jeff Ronne has some real beauties for decent prices.
  • 11-08-2005, 02:29 PM
    ballpythonandragon
    Re: Carpets not good pets
    So do you get papers with the snakes from this guy because i want to be 100% it's a male. Also does reds have to be handled everyday?
  • 11-08-2005, 02:31 PM
    ballpythonandragon
    Re: Carpets not good pets
    also how does the bid thing go why don't he just sell them out to people?
  • 11-08-2005, 02:44 PM
    ladywhipple02
    Re: Carpets not good pets
    He does sell them out. Go to: redtailboas.com and click on the Available at the top of the page. And he won't just let anyone bid on them because he's very protective of who his snakes go to, just as you're very protective of who you buy from.


    If you want a boa and email him, he'll give you any and all info you want, and he'll send any papers and info you need.

    And boas don't need to be held everyday. In fact, if you hold them too much, you could stress them out. Getting them out for a few minutes everyday, or getting them out for a little longer every couple of days is just fine... but for the first week, no touching! :)
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