New RTB

48"W x 23"D x 30"H

Is this big enough for a RTB, when it is full grown? I have been eyeballing one in town for several weeks now and would like to get it. I am positive I can meet its needs pretty easily. I am just going to handle it before I make the purchase to check its temperment.

An adult rtb needs a 6' x 2' cage.

Well as Becky knows, our family is all madly in love with columbian boas now after these past months with Rauri! What a great large but not massive snake he is.

Do you know if this RTB is a male or female? How old and big is it now? You might want to start it in something smaller depending on it's current needs.


~~Jo~~

It looks to be a Juvi. Probably less than 36". They guy has had it for a couple of months and I want it so bad.

nice guns that 357. MAgnum is hella sick i want one of those when im 16!! How much was it and where did u buy it?

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nice guns that 357. MAgnum is hella sick i want one of those when im 16!! How much was it and where did u buy it?

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What the ...?

Ok, anyways, 36" is just a baby. Probably born this year. If it isn't a calm and gentle boa the chances are it will be. They easily settle in. Babies can be a little nippy though, so don't let that change your mindset. Male boas can be really skittish when they are young, but they will usually settle in with time. Once you start down the boa track it's hard to go back :)

He is asking $150 for it. I am willing to guess it's a male, cause if it was a female he would probably ask for more.

That .357 Magnum ain't no childs toy. It holds 8 shots, has an 8 in" Mangum ported barrel and will crack an engine block. That fine piece of steel cost me $375 used, and worth every penny. I am thinking of putting a scope on it and using it for deer season next year. If you want a starter gun go with a 9MM, a .357 can knock you on your rear, rip your arm off, knock you out or worse. That .357 is a mans gun, or possibly a very tough lady.
I also have a guns page on my website. Guns are my other passion. I have 18 in all including 4 WWII Military rifles not listed there.

I really want that RTB.

You just confused the living crap out of me mixing guns and snakes in the same post, but hey that's life.

A normal snake usually goes for the same amount and doesn't matter on the sex. 150.00 is a lot for a Columbian RTB, but a good price for a BCI. What kind is it?

$150 is pricey.. male, female.. doesn't matter.

Neonate CBB usually run $75 for a colombian.

If the snake has a very clean pattern or pink/red color etc, that may explain it, or it could just be typical pet store overpricing.

All I know is he has RTB written on the glass. He raises a few snakes him self, I am going to talk to him more this week about the snake. This is the guy who runs my favorite pet store in town. I will see if he will let me take a pic of it.

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Originally Posted by Shelby

Many snakes have a stripe that is on their skin that goes through the eye. It is there to camoflague the eye and to break up the outline. They can sneak up on prey and avoid predators easier that way.

It is pigment, not the pupil. If you shine a light (not too bright!) in the snake's eye, you can see the pupil contract.

Red tail boas have a very prominent eye stripe

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Shelby, I borrowed this from another thread. In one of my longings over the RTB I am looking at, I noticed this. I really thought it was cool, one of the things I like about it.

Yeah, it's really cool. My hogg island boa has an amber stripe in her eye. My bloods have an orangeish one, and my dums have silver and dark brown eyes.

BCCs have this pattern {} on their back while BCIs have this pattern )(. This is how you can tell. Also, BCCs have a longer face.

My wife and I are plaining on trying to have a baby soon would it be a bad choice to get a RTB and I live in an apartment right now. Or should i go with a carpet? i want another snake that is easy to care for but not a childs snake so to say.

You could have either a rtb or carpet if you have a baby, just use common sense! RTBs tame quicker and easier than carpets, and are actually more kid friendly generally.

Jim - yes, many BCC have widow's peaks, and most bci don't, but many peruvian and surinam BCC do not have widow's peaks, and I have seen colombian BCI that do. In fact my hogg island boa has a few small widow's peaks.

Just my two cents as a parent of 4 here...take it as you like. I've always tried to not get any sort of new pet in the house during the time I was heavily pregnant or just delivered. Babies are incredibely high maintenance and tiring and it just ends up with the pet suffering your lack of energy during those last months of pregnancy and first months of new parenthood.


~~Jo~~

Well actually we are trying to get pregnent right now so i have alittle bit of time.Also where is a pretty good place to buy a RTB istead of getting one from a local place?

I decided to go with a BCI. I did a lot of research and would prefer a smaller snake with a better temperment. I am going to get one direct from a breeder though. All the pet stores in town claim thier RTBs are nippy. I am going to go with a 2-3 yr old snake. I did some research on Fauna and think I found a breeder I would like to do business with.

Lars,


Any suggestions who you're in touch with? No one in MY local area have RTBs avail. so I too am looking at breeders, but being still new in the herp world, I'm still learing who and who not for networking.

Ideas are appreciated!

Thanks!

RuLyn

BTW: Got my new stripe baby < FINALLY! >:oops: Now we need to come up with a name. FD suggested Tom Thumb since he's soooooo small (only about 3 mo. old) but I reminded her he won't stay that way for long! & the seller said to try starting fuzzy rats. Huh? I thought you DIDN'T want to go as big or bigger than their thickest girth.
Jeez!

http://clearwaterreptiles.tripod.com/

I emailed this guy. He has a good rep on fauna classifieds. Only on negative thing, but that was about a snake he bought and arrived to him dead. He then sold a similar looking snake on a board and someone said he sold the snake she had shipped him and he claimed was dead. The snakes were similiar but not the same in my opinion. I read the thread and it didn't seem he was really at fault in my opinion. I am also open to other breeders of BCI if anyone here has any suggestions. I am not all to impressed with things in my local area all the time. So I decided to go on the net and look, its just that all the horror stories scare me. I am trying to do reseach and make the best informed decision that I can. I did check out a sub adult BP in town this past week, but his eye caps were bad and he was nippy. I am thinking I probably won't buy another snake from a pet store. My next BP will be from Adam probably.

hi,
Before you buy that Boa' check out this site I ve bought four high end boa's from Clay One Hog and three BCI they are all worth double what I paid and shipping was resonable. he just started and auction on the site and he's practically giving away the snakes.

http://auction.redtailboas.com/
this animal I paid 220 for a few years ago and she's really pops.

http://www.redtailboas.com/albums/al...3_rose_002.jpg

I plan to pic up this animal next week for around 65 bucks plus shippin

http://www.redtailboas.com/albums/album01/Deverell.jpg


if your wonder what the mom looks like go here she's named delila

http://www.redtailboas.com/gallery/d...m/2delilah.jpg

I think I am going to go with one of Clay's High Oranges. I love that color. I so want an RTB, I am hoping to have it this week actually.

k well i have to choose between the Hog Island boa or a Colubian i love both what do you suggest i get im going to get the snake from Clay
also if i waited until summer would i be to late to get a snake from him?

hi,
His current auction expires today at 1830, somethin, I would jump on that hog cross its sweet, IF I loose my bid I may jump on it..
Doug

Clay's breeding some sweet pastels and albinos right at the moment. I'm sure he'll have some beautiful litters come spring/summer time, if you want to wait that long. Also, if you guys don't want to do the auction thing, for a just another $20 bucks or so, you can buy the snakes straight out.

I bid $60 on a HO male. I can't wait to get him. He's going to be awesome. I am just loving being able to learn about all the herps I got. I also love the time we spend together as a family working with them and learning together. When I bought Salina I had no idea the doors it would open for my family as a whole. My oldest son is even reading more to learn about them, I have tried everything with him to get him reading more.

I won I won I won!!! I hope he gets here soon. Now for a name, I want it to be something original!

Do you have a pic of him you can post?

I love naming my animals. Creative names are the only way to go!

No his auction is all in PHP, so I am going to have him e-mail me some. I am so glad I went this route intead of getting a pet store one. I also saved $50-$100 doing this way.

I'm so glad you got one of Clay's babies. Clay's such a great guy... you won't be disappointed with the shipping or the snake. And he'll provide you with answers to questions long after you've brought your baby home.

Congrats!!!!! I'm jealous... ;)

Hey Lars... here's a pic or two of your new boa, in case you wanted to show him off ;)! He's a cutie!!!!

Handsome little boa. He's dark, but he's got great oranges and pinks showing. Nice tail too.

Thank you Lady. I have been dying to show her off. Shelby according to clay the orange gets more dominant as the get older. I am sure he will be a fine young man. I am also checking out his Hogg Islands. I am getting me a real nice boaphiles cage next year or something similiar, and a BP rack too.

If the weather is with in range, I will get him Tuesday. The lows will be 23F that day. I think he should be ok if he has heat packs.

I may wait and get the springs or summer snakes he is going to have i wonder what the albino mixes are going to look like and run for humm.

Lars,


The date of birth is April 23 2005. You will get complete feeding and shedding records with your boa.


Also an important note to remember is I cannot ship when the night-time temperatures are below freezing. I like the temps to be at least 40 degrees the night of shipping.


Now that I have your zip code I will monitor the temperatures in your area. I know your weather gets much colder much sooner than we do, so we will have to watch it very closely. I will not do anything that can jeopardize the boas health.


I know you are excited.. I know you want your baby, but we need to ensure the 100% safe arrival of your boa.


Thanks again.


Clay English



I won't get my new baby til May! I don't for see it getting warmer til next year! I am going to scream! I know it's the right thing, I am just so disappointed. I have been researching this kind of snake for months now.

It may get warm again sometime... have hope! :) Clay's just watching out for your baby... but I can't wait til you get him home and get some more pics for us!

North Dakota is VERY COLD. The fact that it is only 23F right now is astonishing, this is a heat wave. I feel like a retard for not researching shipping requirements. My son is going to be as heartbroke as I am, all of my kids will be.

Wow. Well, hopefully something will turn around...

We have wierd days in the Midwest. Like this week: yesterday, it was balmy and almost 70, today it's snowing.

Congrats Lars on the lovely snake! I know it must be hard for you and your family (especially your son) to wait for the weather to co-operate for the safe shipping of this snake. Think how upset though you all would be to receive a dead or dying snake that was shipping improperly by a less than concerned breeder. Sounds like Clay is not only looking out for the snake but for your investment in it as well and it will certainly be beautifully cared for while it stays in his facility I'm sure.

Wonderful to hear your son is doing more reading! Our snakes have opened up so many things for our family as a shared hobby. Perhaps you and your son could spend the time learning more lots about these fascinating creatures and planning out it's new home. Depending on his age he might even be able to do a classroom presentation about the new snake to help him feel involved.

What did all our granny's used to say..."all good things come to those that wait"...dang old ladies are smart! LOL


~~Jo~~

HI,
Sorry about the temp thing, the really good is all his boa's are fed fresh thawed, I have female sister of your male that takes a fuzzie off the floor no effort, this really make keepin a breeze, hey what happens if you loose power in your neck of the woods, do you have a back up plan,.
I lost power a couple years ago with a hurricain it didn't bother the snakes I really hated the heat, and that genrator was about 10 bucks a day to run..
to keep my feeder frozen.
your snake will improve with every shed and will really pop at age 2. I have one of the brothers coming too if the weather is good.
Most commons will darken as they age not CLays pastels, and if you breed this one he will have some awsome babies. you better get a female on lay away..
hehe
Doug

I got about 20 heat packs from Walmart. We have lost power for as long as 8 hrs at a time. I am thinking I might have to wait until spring to get this baby. I have e-mailed clay back and forth several times, he is very good to work with. I guess the good thing is that I wanted a bigger meatier snake and by the time he gets here he should be that way.

It's true... think about it this way: you're getting a yearly for the price of a baby :) And you don't even have to feed him!

I'll be praying to the weather Gods to give you some warm weather though ;)

The low temps never rise above 25 for the next few days. I doubt it will get warmer. I wonder how pet shops get them up here.

Not safely.

These pics are ones Clay Enlish had posted on his auction. I bought this snake from him and will have it shipped when it warms up. It is a male High Orange BCI. I do not think it is a Hogg Island of any sort. A few people more familiar with Clay's snakes will know more about that than me. I got him for $60 + $40 for shipping.

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...1/0/hom102.jpg
https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...1/0/hom101.jpg

He's got some really nice orange there, but I don't think he'll look like my HIB. Most likely he will be quite a bit darker, but he may have some salmon-ish coloration as an adult.

He's most definitely a colombian.

ok, i may sound goofy.. but how do you ship animals? seems cruel :(

oh and BEAUTIFUL rtb... thats my next herp want :P

He will overnight UPS it to me. He will be packed with heat packs and stuff. It is perfectly safe when its warm out. I just have sub zero temps until about April.

Lars