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I think that snake is an absolute smokeshow!! However, I can't offer and thoughts on pricing. Sorry.

Nice looking snake. Also not sure on the price, but seems low.

I've seen things like this before and they are a problem morph - shouldn't be bred.

Not saying that's the case, however, not many out there at all and super cheap.

I have a call into Jeff Ronne, the Boaphile, who's a buddy of mine now, asking about any health risks.

There was another morph someone looked at a while ago and posted and it was a morph that cannot reproduce and generally lives less than 3 years. Shouldn't have been sold.

Do you know the breeder?

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Originally Posted by dakski

Nice looking snake. Also not sure on the price, but seems low.

I've seen things like this before and they are a problem morph - shouldn't be bred.

Not saying that's the case, however, not many out there at all and super cheap.

I have a call into Jeff Ronne, the Boaphile, who's a buddy of mine now, asking about any health risks.

There was another morph someone looked at a while ago and posted and it was a morph that cannot reproduce and generally lives less than 3 years. Shouldn't have been sold.

Do you know the breeder?

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great info. kinda know of them...met them at a show and a friend vends with them. thank you!

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There was another morph someone looked at a while ago and posted and it was a morph that cannot reproduce and generally lives less than 3 years. Shouldn't have been sold.

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You're thinking super motley, which produces a black snake and is a fatal combo though it does take a few years for the boa to pass away.

Price in the ad is correct given she's only 50% het kahl.

Very nice snake and a pretty good price too.

I didn't think that was a bad price either for a 50%het,
As already said, it's only the super motley that is short lived and a breeding a motley to a motley is a big no no because of creating supers
But apart from that's its a stunner, I really love the motley pattern

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You're thinking super motley, which produces a black snake and is a fatal combo though it does take a few years for the boa to pass away.

Price in the ad is correct given she's only 50% het kahl.

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Yes. You are correct.

Thank you for clarifying.

My my apologies for jumping the gun.

That's a good price. My problem with motley jungles is I can never really see the jungle in it (with a few exceptions), even ones I have seen in person. To me, that just looks like a motley with low color.
I'm NOT saying don't trust the breeder, as it most likely is what it's being sold as, just saying *I* can't see it in this morph combo most of the time. Possibly the thicker back border on the tail.

i honestly know nothing about this morph. not planning on breeding...just think she's a looker haha

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almost bought a baby CA this past weekend but i couldn't figure them out. when trying to look them up online i got very confusing info. locality stuff always confuses me. is CA a group of types or their own type?

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The price is on par with my Visual Kahl 100% Het Anery.

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almost bought a baby CA this past weekend but i couldn't figure them out. when trying to look them up online i got very confusing info. locality stuff always confuses me. is CA a group of types or their own type?

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CA is Central American locality of Bi (boa imperator). Majority, at least in the past, imported and bred Bis in captivity were from the Colombian locality with Bc (boa constictors/true red tails) coming from further in South America (Surinam, Guyana, Peru Brazil). Lots more CAs in captivity now and some are further referenced to point of origin such as Nicaraguan. Main differences (generally speaking) are that CAs tend to be smaller. In general they usually have darker, heavier patterns but with normal boa variability that isn't as set in stone as it used to be. CAs were generally thought of as being hissier babies as well but again now with more numbers in over the years, it's not such a hard and fast stereotype.
hope that helps?

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CA is Central American locality of Bi (boa imperator). Majority, at least in the past, imported and bred Bis in captivity were from the Colombian locality with Bc (boa constictors/true red tails) coming from further in South America (Surinam, Guyana, Peru Brazil). Lots more CAs in captivity now and some are further referenced to point of origin such as Nicaraguan. Main differences (generally speaking) are that CAs tend to be smaller. In general they usually have darker, heavier patterns but with normal boa variability that isn't as set in stone as it used to be. CAs were generally thought of as being hissier babies as well but again now with more numbers in over the years, it's not such a hard and fast stereotype.
hope that helps?

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That's apparently what my late BCI was (she was also referred to as a Mexican BCI :confusd: but she was being offered free with little info). Anyway, she fit your description
to a T: dark in color & very defensive (hissy & a skilled biter, lol...that resulted in her being "free"). She actually became a sweet cuddly boa with a little patience, and
her dark coloration made for some stunning iridescence in the sunlight.

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That's apparently what my late BCI was (she was also referred to as a Mexican BCI :confusd: but she was being offered free with little info).

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There are boas in Mexico as well :)

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There are boas in Mexico as well :)

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Right...she was a yearling that changed homes many times before given to me with no real information as to her genetics & history, & she was originally from a pet store.
So I didn't exactly carve "Mexican BCI" into stone, lol...that or CA was just an educated guess, & I'm assuming they are too similar to really tell?

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CA is Central American locality of Bi (boa imperator). Majority, at least in the past, imported and bred Bis in captivity were from the Colombian locality with Bc (boa constictors/true red tails) coming from further in South America (Surinam, Guyana, Peru Brazil). Lots more CAs in captivity now and some are further referenced to point of origin such as Nicaraguan. Main differences (generally speaking) are that CAs tend to be smaller. In general they usually have darker, heavier patterns but with normal boa variability that isn't as set in stone as it used to be. CAs were generally thought of as being hissier babies as well but again now with more numbers in over the years, it's not such a hard and fast stereotype.
hope that helps?

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^^^^^ This ^^^^ describes my Boa, Butch that I rescued 5-6 years ago with no background information.

Butch has not visually grown in the time that I have had him. He is a few inches over 5 feet long. I have been convinced for some time that he is CA. He is as docile as can be. And the less I handle him the more of a scaredy-cat he is.

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Butch, wild type BI, possible CA. 5 year old + pic, he is darker now.