Well Guys things have changed.

So, I found out that I cant keep SD Retics in my V180. Its not a big deal seeing as I paid half of what I can sell it for. So Retics were my dream species. So were Blood Pythons. If I can't have a Retic in the V-180 I am going to only get snakes that will fit in a CB-70 from Reptile Basics. I started thinking about it, and I decided that I will keep to corns, kings, milks, hognoses, and maybe one pied ball python. For my one Blood Python I figure I will get one 4x2' or 5x2' cage. and Ill keep the rest in the VE-6 and a few CB-70. If I can't have retics I just see no reason to have the V-180. One large snake is enough. There are tons of smaller species that are great pets, that can be kept in tubs. I want a scaleless Corn. That is at the top of my list. I know I've changed my mind alot, but I just found out I can't keep the SD retics. The only reason I was going to keep pythons was for an SD Retic, and A Blood Python. I just don't see a reason to keep the V-180 for 1 Blood Python

I should also say another reason is cost of husbandry. with the smaller snakes it is much cheaper. especially when it comes to caging.

I haven't met many snakes I didn't like...so there's nothing wrong with being practical & revising choices. Your dream list will keep evolving anyway, I'm betting.

I've flip-flopped plenty too. Sooooo many species on my wish list, but so little space by comparison.

I absolutely love Kings and Hognose, so I don't think you can go wrong there.

Like said above, there's absolutely nothing wrong with revising your choices. In fact, it sounds like you're doing the right thing. I have a huge list of "wants" but I know it's just not practical, so I've done the same thing.

Looking forward to seeing what you get.

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Originally Posted by sur3fir3

I should also say another reason is cost of husbandry. with the smaller snakes it is much cheaper. especially when it comes to caging.

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Well another thing to consider (to be honest here) is that the larger the snake, the larger it's enclosure is to clean up the larger messes, and over the years, that can
get "old" no matter how much you love your snakes. Yes, food & cages for big snakes cost more, but if you work a lot of hours, how thrilled will you be to clean up a
larger mess, or hold a snake that takes more effort, when you come home tired? So many factors & we all have to decide what fits our life best when it comes to pets.
When we don't "think ahead" we can feel burned out, with not enough time, energy, money, space, etc. to go around.

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Originally Posted by Bogertophis

Well another thing to consider (to be honest here) is that the larger the snake, the larger it's enclosure is to clean up the larger messes, and over the years, that can
get "old" no matter how much you love your snakes. Yes, food & cages for big snakes cost more, but if you work a lot of hours, how thrilled will you be to clean up a
larger mess, or hold a snake that takes more effort, when you come home tired? So many factors & we all have to decide what fits our life best when it comes to pets.
When we don't "think ahead" we can feel burned out, with not enough time, energy, money, space, etc. to go around.

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Very true. Great insight.

BTW, for a small python that makes a GREAT pet, look into Australian Spotted Pythons. No bigger than a corn snake (but needs warmer temps than a corn), mine
eats f/t small mice with an enthusiastic pounce EVERY time (no heating needed, like for BPs), but she handles without biting me...she is very alert in her cage as to
anything approaching & likes to bask on branches (instead of hiding all the time). Not as well-known as many other kinds of snakes, but excellent & easy in every
way. I've had this one for about 10 years now...:snake: (does best with a humid hide to shed well, but you don't have to humidify the whole cage, which is a glass
tank, in my case)

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BTW, for a small python that makes a GREAT pet, look into Australian Spotted Pythons.

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Another option is Savu pythons. I swear mine are mini-retics.

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Another option is Savu pythons. I swear mine are mini-retics.

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I was hoping you'd jump in with a suggestion...I know there's a few others along these lines, but I don't personally have experience with them.

My issue with arboreal or semi arboreal is I plan on using tubs and the ones I bought arent tall enough.

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My issue with arboreal or semi arboreal is I plan on using tubs and the ones I bought arent tall enough.

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Hoggies, kings & milk snakes would be better choices then...they're terrestrial types. You mentioned corns I think? they are climbers & less suited to tubs, IMO.
Rosy boas are more ground-dwelling too & don't get bigger than about 40" (females are bigger than the males).

I may change my mind yet again and go with balls. It's not that I don't like balls, it's just that they are soooooooo popular. Everyone has a ball python. I like to stick with species that aren't kept by everyone.

The thing is I want to use tubs. I've done tanks, and wood enclosures, and they are a pain to keep clean. At least with the tub its light enough to hose it down, then wipe with disinfectant. Not only that, but I like that people cant really see into them.

Plus the space they save is incredible. I've also been thinking about keeping some ksb.

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Originally Posted by sur3fir3

...Everyone has a ball python...

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Not me! ;) (but I've had some in the past, for full disclosure)

And the name of this forum might have something to do with it? :D