What bp should I get for a high variety of eggs?

Hello again

I realize I am posting a lot here, I am really into this and want my ball python(s) to have a perfect life. I recently thought of getting my 3 year old champagne(I am not sure my original shop did not tell me) male ball python a female. Does anyone have any advice on what morph of female snake to get to get a high variation of baby snakes.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1yrq...ew?usp=sharing
this is my snake.

ps: I don't know much about breeding. if anyone wants to give me any advice please do!!

Thanks for being awesome

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Originally Posted by Joshwah

ps: I don't know much about breeding. if anyone wants to give me any advice please do!!

Thanks for being awesome

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Not to rain on your parade, but with such limited experience and such a limited budget breeding shouldn't even be on your radar yet.

Take your time and learn more about these animals. They are already over produced and unless you plan to keep all of the offspring it would be best to hold off on breeding.

I agree with craigavon for the most part but don't let that deter you from planning to breed in the future. Everyone starts somewhere but breeding is not something to jump into just because you got a BP. It does add a ton of enjoyment to the hobby but slow down a little and make sure it's something you truely want and can handle the responsibility.

I would start out by growing your collection and getting a feel for talking care of multiple animals. Read as much information on morphs and breeding as you can, you can never be too prepared.

If you want to have a larger collection, there is no harm in purchasing morphs that would be what you would want to breed if you decide to do so. Purchasing as babies and growing g them out will give you at least a couple more years of experience so you can make a more educated decision about breeding at that time.

Having a single gene morph like champagne leaves you open to picking pretty much any other morphs that you would want to make combos with. To get more varieties you will need to have more morphs in any potential breeding partners. You can basically get as many morphs packed into one snake as you can afford but a 3 gene animal will give you plenty of variety. Just don't go with another Champagne or spider, they make deadly combos. Do your research on morphs before you decide because champagne is one of those morphs you can have problems breeding to the wrong morph.

I agree with the previous posts and I will add this the more variety you want the more genes you want except in your case with a champagne not the best choice, champagne is a very overpowering gene and a lot of the combos look the same, unless you go with something leopard enchi.

Go on WOBP and look at champagne combos, but remember breeding is more than just putting two snakes together there is a lot that goes into it.

I want to keep them all.
But ok

Thank you for the advice

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Originally Posted by Joshwah

I want to keep them all.
But ok

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Originally Posted by Joshwah

Thank you for the advice

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We're not trying to discourage you from ever breeding. We're just trying to make sure you're fully aware of all that goes into breeding.

Since you're still very new to keeping snakes, take your time and enjoy them. Take a few years to decide if breeding is really something you're passionate enough to pursue.
This will also give you time to save up some money. Breeding isn't cheap. Neither is caring for all the babies. If you can't afford proper equipment, incubator, enclosures,food, etc...etc...etc...it's not fair to the animals to bring them into the world.

If you decided to breed how would you care for an additional 4,5,6 or more animals?
Would you be able to to determine if an animal was born with any defects? Would you be able to determine whether said defect will prevent the animal from living a healthy life? If not, would you be able to cull the animal?

All things to consider, and I'm barely scratching the surface.

We just see soooooooo many people get their first snake and all of a sudden want to breed. Many get burnt out, or never really had the passion in the first place and sell off their whole collection within a few years.
Considering that the BP market is already over saturated it doesn't make sense to bring more animals into the world if you don't have a long term plan for the animals.

But, like I said, don't let this discourage you. Just use it as a learning tool and take your time deciding if breeding is really for you.

I started out in this hobby almost 20 years ago. Of course breeding has crossed my mind, but to this point it's not something I want to take on. Maybe someday, but doubtful.

So, enjoy your pets and take your time.

Ok, I understand. But the main reason I want to get more snakes is because my one is really weird. In the morning I can get him out and hold but he is always curled up as a ball. And at night he comes out the hide and slithers to the top of the cage and sometimes plops down, during this time if I go near his cage he will start striking at the glass, he has bitten me a few times already and I just want to have a good relationship with snakes.

TBH he sounds a bit scared ( or hungry - it can be tricky to tell at first )

Inital question is what weight is your snake, what is he eating ( by weight and species) and how often are you handling him?

It's easy to forget from our perspective but from his king-kong just dragged him out his house. It takes a while to get used to that sort of thing - especially if the breeder didn't take him out that often in the past three years. :)

In 2 weeks I have handled him about 4 times. I feed him live rats, and the day he was aggressive I fed him 2 medium to small sized mice. I also had a incident with him where I put hand in the cage and immediately got bit. Idk what he eats but it's nice that's white and has red eyes. I don't think he has been handled before. His previous shop keeper is horrible and kept him in a plastic takeout food box. He does not look dehydrated or underfed though.

I don't know what he weighs because I can't take him out without him going crazy.

If you're not able to weigh the snake, another way to judge the appropriate size of prey is comparing the width of the mouse or rat with the widest part of the snake's body. The prey should be around that size. It's a good sign that he's already eaten for you once! One nice thing about bitey BPs is that they seem to tend to be better eaters :)

To me it sounds like your BP is mostly scared though, since he recently moved to a completely new place and has not been handled much before. The balling up is definitely a sign of fear. BPs can put on a show and may look and act scary and aggressive but they are actually just being defensive because they are scared of you and trying to be tough to make you go away.

To help him calm down maybe for starters don't handle him for 2-3 weeks and until he has eaten 2-3 times without refusing any meals. You could also cover all sides of the enclosure with some paper or boards to help him feel more secure. Once that time has passed and if he is eating well, you can start taking him out when he isn't digesting and just hold him for 5-10 mins at first and then increase the time. There is a great video here on how to pick up defensive ball pythons: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHFlgkM2tTU

When you do start handling, it helps to hold the snake close to your body or in your lap as they feel safer that way. Covering the snake with a blanket or towel when handling also helps them feel more secure.

I would produce what sells the best if you’re looking for profit. If you’re doing it as a hobby invest in morphs you like. If you go on morphmarket and click sold you can see the most popular morphs. Idk if this helps at all [emoji2371] I plan on breeding boas and pythons as a hobby after grad school. I’ll probably start small as I can see finding buyers being a potential issue. I don’t want to produce a ton of snakes and be “stuck” with them.


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Originally Posted by Joshwah

In 2 weeks I have handled him about 4 times. I feed him live rats, and the day he was aggressive I fed him 2 medium to small sized mice. I also had a incident with him where I put hand in the cage and immediately got bit. Idk what he eats but it's nice that's white and has red eyes. I don't think he has been handled before. His previous shop keeper is horrible and kept him in a plastic takeout food box. He does not look dehydrated or underfed though.

I don't know what he weighs because I can't take him out without him going crazy.

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Back when I got my bp he did the same thing. He would strike whenever anyone entered the room. It was likely because he was kept in a tub and his only interaction with people was feeding. I bought some leather gloves and held him everyday and in about two weeks or so he was puppy dog tame. Only do this once he’s eating well though and check your husbandry. If you just got him make sure he’s eating consistently (3+ good meals) before handling. Looks like feeding has been covered in other posts :) Good luck!


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