Finally got my first clutch this year

I've been getting really impatient seeing my friends and people here all getting clutches but now I can finally join the club lol.

First clutch of the year came last night, ghi het desert ghost x super cinny. Hoping I get lucky with my hold back ghi cinny and I get a het DG but it will be a while before I need to worry about that.

8 healthy eggs, no slugs. Not bad for her first clutch.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...85b0849808.jpg

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Sweet! congratulations! :bounce:

great first clutch, love your pairing!!!! good luck ...

nice! i hope u do get he DG's. i can't wait and would love to see your end game here - Super GHI DG - super dark snake w/ peaks of super bright pattern. Super Cinny DG - dark snake w/ bright splotches. a double Super Cinny GHI DG! or maybe throw in Leopard something.

:gj:

congrats!

Congratulations! I can’t wait to see what pops out. Best of luck with hitting what you’re hoping for.

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Originally Posted by Ax01

nice! i hope u do get he DG's. i can't wait and would love to see your end game here - Super GHI DG - super dark snake w/ peaks of super bright pattern. Super Cinny DG - dark snake w/ bright splotches. a double Super Cinny GHI DG! or maybe throw in Leopard something.

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congrats!

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Oh man, you just got my head spinning! Lol, I didn't even consider pairing siblings, that's a heck of an idea! The only down side is I'd need to get double lucky haha and I wouldn't be able to prove either out if I don't get any visuals. I guess the first step would be to prove out the Male with one of my visual females and if he proves out then I could test my luck with his sister the next year. I'm hoping to get another clutch soon that could produce visual pastel ghi DG so I should have my hands full of pairings to figure out :D

That's a good start :gj:

I candled them last night and the two roll outs had much less veins than the rest, one almost none. It also had a dark oval shadow on the one side that I've never noticed candling any of my other eggs before, I wonder if it could be settlement?

So anyway, I may be down to only six or seven. I left them in there just in case but I'd say at least the one is not going to make it. It's too bad because they all look perfect.

I find it amazing that the momma is able to tell the ones with less chance of surviving so they abandon them and just focus their energy on only incubating the perfect ones. I wonder how they know, nature really is amazing.

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Oh man, you just got my head spinning! Lol, I didn't even consider pairing siblings, that's a heck of an idea! The only down side is I'd need to get double lucky haha and I wouldn't be able to prove either out if I don't get any visuals. I guess the first step would be to prove out the Male with one of my visual females and if he proves out then I could test my luck with his sister the next year. I'm hoping to get another clutch soon that could produce visual pastel ghi DG so I should have my hands full of pairings to figure out :D

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That is the major problem with breeding “possible hets”, it’s a total crapshoot/ long odds lottery and the math is not in your favor. It’s best to just breed 100% hets, or breed a “possible het” because you want the co-dominant genes anyway regardless of wether the recessive gene is present. That way if both parents are hets, it’s a surprise bonus, even if highly unlikely.

Or if you are really intent on testing there genes, you have to breed a possible het to a visual recessive to see what happens, but I personally would not waste the energy when I can just get a 100% het or visual to start with.

Also, congrats! The mama snakes senses are truly amazing when it comes to her eggs..

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That is the major problem with breeding “possible hets”, it’s a total crapshoot/ long odds lottery and the math is not in your favor. It’s best to just breed 100% hets, or breed a “possible het” because you want the co-dominant genes anyway regardless of wether the recessive gene is present. That way if both parents are hets, it’s a surprise bonus, even if highly unlikely.

Or if you are really intent on testing there genes, you have to breed a possible het to a visual recessive to see what happens, but I personally would not waste the energy when I can just get a 100% het or visual to start with.

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I agree with you, all my breeding plans are visual x 100% het or in the near future visual x visual. I also only purchase visual or 100%. This breeding was just because I had the super cinny with no plans other than to possibly sell but she was ready and I love ghi cinny so I figured why not put my ghi het DG boy to her. I won't mind having a ghi cinny extra female to put one of my visual DG boys to in the future, I didn't purchase these snakes with plans of breeding this pairing, just so happens I had the super cinny from previous plans. Now that I've changed plans to really only focus on DG, I don't mind getting a combo I love from animals I already had even if it is only 50% DG. I have plenty of visuals and 100% hets to work with, so I won't mind if the hold back from this clutch doesn't prove out because I certainly didn't put all my eggs in this basket lol. This will pretty much be just a fun little side project, you can never have too many of those right haha.

I just wanted to give an update.

I'm only a couple weeks in but I'm pretty happy because so far all 8 eggs still look good so I'm guessing if the 2 I was worried about were actually bad, there would be some signs by now. But nope, they look just as bright and plump as the rest so fingers crossed, all should hopefully hatch for me in another 40 days or so, man it's hard to be patient! :D

So the first one is out and he's looking awesome! Different than any ghi cinny I've seen, the light pattern is usually an orange/brown color, mine is faded to almost a grey color. I'm hoping this is a way to tell the hets but I won't know until more are out to compare. Looks like the two roll outs and all but one that molded half way through are good and should be healthy hatchlings. I did peak at the rest and I believe I did well on odds with 5 ghi cinnys and 2 cinnys.
Anyway, here's boy #1, I love him even though I wish he was a girl. I'll probably keep him as a holdback anyway because at least with a male I won't have to wait so long to prove him out.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...fca5132ddc.jpg

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So the first one is out and he's looking awesome! Different than any ghi cinny I've seen, the light pattern is usually an orange/brown color, mine is faded to almost a grey color. I'm hoping this is a way to tell the hets but I won't know until more are out to compare. Looks like the two roll outs and all but one that molded half way through are good and should be healthy hatchlings. I did peak at the rest and I believe I did well on odds with 5 ghi cinnys and 2 cinnys.
Anyway, here's boy #1, I love him even though I wish he was a girl. I'll probably keep him as a holdback anyway because at least with a male I won't have to wait so long to prove him out.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...fca5132ddc.jpg

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Stunning little noodle!

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So out of the 5 ghi cinnys only one girl errrrrrr! But at least I got what I hoped for before I knew how many ghi cinnys I would even get, I wanted to hold back 1.1 and that's exactly what I can do now so I'm pretty pleased.

Here is my one and only female ghi cinny, she is a definite holdback!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...b171db737d.jpg

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Here is the rest of the clutch, the cinnys are 1.1 and all these ghi cinnys are boyshttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...7233e9068f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...b77bb76471.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...843a2521b9.jpg

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I'm leaning towards this Male ghi cinny as my other holdback, he has a slight purple tint and is a touch lighter than the others. Hopefully that's an indication of him being hethttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...4937926f0d.jpg

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