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Vaping/Juul and "quitting smoking"
So....I "quit smoking" a few weeks ago thanks to the Juul. I feel funny saying I've quit smoking because I just replaced one vice for another BUT my life has improved. The main reason is husband HATES cigarette smoke, him and our pup are allergic. The Juul doesn't produce nearly as much "smoke" as a real cigarette or those other vaping setups (you fill the oil yourself, the Juul has pre-filled disposable cartridges, each one supposedly equal to one pack of smokes but cheaper!)
Has anyone else had success using a Juul or something similar?
Has anyone also tried vaping CBD?
Favorite products/flavors? I never thought I would enjoy the fruity flavors but so far digging mango and mixed berry.
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Vaped for about 5 years then let my kid move back in.....
No one likes a quitter. :rofl:
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Re: Vaping/Juul and "quitting smoking"
I've tried vaping but the issue I have with it is you don't get to "finish" it. One of the satisfactions you get from smoking is being able to flick the butt or some how put it out. You can't get that sort of "closure" from a vape so it never worked for me.
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I have to be honest here - it takes a lot to turn my stomach, but cigarette smoke cuts right to the quick. It is so foul smelling that it is difficult for me to keep my cool when it's around. Both my parents smoked during my entire childhood and I wanted to kick them in the face every time they lit up. I'm not speaking in hyperbole either. I'm a child of the '70s and '80s so it just seemed omnipresent and I'm very intolerant of it to this day. Whenever I see a cigarette in someones mouth I think it looks so ridiculously stupid. I just don't get the entire appeal.
A few years back some guy blew vape vapor in my face at a concert and the rest of his night did not go as planned. He blew this acrid smelling cloud in my face that smelled liked an apple that had passed through someone's colon. I told him to blow that sh-t in another direction and when he told me to get over it, things went south for him double-quick.
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Re: Vaping/Juul and "quitting smoking"
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Originally Posted by SilentHill
So....I "quit smoking" a few weeks ago thanks to the Juul. I feel funny saying I've quit smoking because I just replaced one vice for another BUT my life has improved. The main reason is husband HATES cigarette smoke, him and our pup are allergic. The Juul doesn't produce nearly as much "smoke" as a real cigarette or those other vaping setups (you fill the oil yourself, the Juul has pre-filled disposable cartridges, each one supposedly equal to one pack of smokes but cheaper!)
Has anyone else had success using a Juul or something similar?
Has anyone also tried vaping CBD?
Favorite products/flavors? I never thought I would enjoy the fruity flavors but so far digging mango and mixed berry.
OK so here it goes. I stopped smoking about 2 years ago and picked up vaping. I had the start of COPD, and vaping allowed my lungs to heal enough that I no longer have COPD. I failed my spirometer test the last time I was smoking. but the last time I took the spirometer test I passed. I've spent the last 2 years vaping, and I love it. I worked down from 12 miligrams all the way down to 3mg. lately I've been mixing my own juice at 1.5mg. Now as far as CBD. I have vaped both thc and CBD. CBD will provide you with some mellowing effects, and take away some pain. When it comes to pain Marijuana does not take the pain away 100%. Instead it just makes the pain bearable. I know numerous people that have never smoked weed that love CBD. You down have to worry about getting high, or the effects. When I stopped smoking weed 2 years ago I started on the CBD. It has all the beneficial effects that Weed has without the getting high part. Personally I'd rather get high. I recommend you switch to a real vape and leave Juul alone. See Juul uses Nicotine salts which from what I understand absorb better into the body, and last longer than regular vaping. If your goal is to quit smoking/vaping completely I recommend you buy this setup, and then find your nicotine level, and start cutting back. Here are the links to the MOD, and the tank you should get. Right now this is th ebest combo you can vape with.
https://www.giantvapes.com/geekvape-aegis-le-kit/
https://www.elementvape.com/freemax-...ank?enter=true
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Re: Vaping/Juul and "quitting smoking"
I have been a avid vaper for about 5 years. It's another one of my hobbies/addictions lol. I smoked 2 packs of Newports a day for nearly 10 years. I will smoke a cigarette on occasion, but probably on average that looks like max of 3 cigarettes a month and I throw it out halfway cause I dont even enjoy them nearly as much as vaping anymore.
I have like 11 different vape setups, in addition to like 5 juuls (juul.com gives me a free one like every month for using autoship on pods). Many of my friends and family have had much success in quitting smoking with either juuls or vapes or some combo.
I build the coils in all my tanks and drippers (besides the juul and another pod system I use) and prefer to refill my own juice. I tailor my builds and atomizer to the type of juice based on what gets me the most flavor.
In my rebuildable tanks I'll typically use fruity menthol flavors, in my drippers I prefer custardy, cereal, and dessert type flavors. With the juul I will only use mint, cause I am of the opinion that all juul flavors suck and the mint sucks the least.
Also highly recommend that you get a jili box for the juul, it's a portable charger around the size of a pack of cigarettes but about 1/4 the thickness. It will charge the juul in like 35 minutes and will give 4-5 full charges per box charge. Also holds 2 extra pods which is convenient
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Re: Vaping/Juul and "quitting smoking"
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Originally Posted by sur3fir3
OK so here it goes. I stopped smoking about 2 years ago and picked up vaping. I had the start of COPD, and vaping allowed my lungs to heal enough that I no longer have COPD. I failed my spirometer test the last time I was smoking. but the last time I took the spirometer test I passed. I've spent the last 2 years vaping, and I love it. I worked down from 12 miligrams all the way down to 3mg. lately I've been mixing my own juice at 1.5mg. Now as far as CBD. I have vaped both thc and CBD. CBD will provide you with some mellowing effects, and take away some pain. When it comes to pain Marijuana does not take the pain away 100%. Instead it just makes the pain bearable. I know numerous people that have never smoked weed that love CBD. You down have to worry about getting high, or the effects. When I stopped smoking weed 2 years ago I started on the CBD. It has all the beneficial effects that Weed has without the getting high part. Personally I'd rather get high. I recommend you switch to a real vape and leave Juul alone. See Juul uses Nicotine salts which from what I understand absorb better into the body, and last longer than regular vaping. If your goal is to quit smoking/vaping completely I recommend you buy this setup, and then find your nicotine level, and start cutting back. Here are the links to the MOD, and the tank you should get. Right now this is th ebest combo you can vape with.
https://www.giantvapes.com/geekvape-aegis-le-kit/
https://www.elementvape.com/freemax-...ank?enter=true
"The best combo" is extremely objective when it comes to vaping[emoji14].
But I'm definitely with you on the Freemax Mesh Pro tank, best tank with replaceable coils on the market IMO. It is definitely my top recommendation as well for a replaceable coil tank
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I don't smoke but my parents did. And I hated it. They finally quit using e-cigs. So good for you! Just stay away from the flavored ones. It's basically food artificial flavoring that was never meant to be inhaled. It's as dangerous as a real cig doing that.
You can also wean yourself off nicotine entirely by get smaller and small doses. One guys I know said in the end all he needed was just seeing the "puff of smoke" to relieve his stress. Eventually he didn't eve need that.
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Originally Posted by MasonC2K
I don't smoke but my parents did. And I hated it. They finally quit using e-cigs. So good for you! Just stay away from the flavored ones. It's basically food artificial flavoring that was never meant to be inhaled. It's as dangerous as a real cig doing that.
You can also wean yourself off nicotine entirely by get smaller and small doses. One guys I know said in the end all he needed was just seeing the "puff of smoke" to relieve his stress. Eventually he didn't eve need that.
Just curious, what proven scientific study have you seen that supports the theory that vaping flavored e-juice is just as bad as cigarettes?
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Originally Posted by MasonC2K
I don't smoke but my parents did. And I hated it. They finally quit using e-cigs. So good for you! Just stay away from the flavored ones. It's basically food artificial flavoring that was never meant to be inhaled. It's as dangerous as a real cig doing that.
You can also wean yourself off nicotine entirely by get smaller and small doses. One guys I know said in the end all he needed was just seeing the "puff of smoke" to relieve his stress. Eventually he didn't eve need that.
I completely disagree. I can name all the chemicals in my vape. I'd like you to do that with a cig. Hands down vaping is better than smoking. There are studies that support this. Even my doctor said it's better. She just said to try and cut the nic cause I have high blood pressure.
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To the previous two.
Yes. Overall vaping is better than smoking. But some flavors for some brands contain a slew of toxic chemicals including diacetyl which is known to cause serious respiratory diseases. I am not going to google the rest for you. You can do that on your own.
I am not against vaping. I just want people to not vape blindly.
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Originally Posted by MasonC2K
To the previous two.
Yes. Overall vaping is better than smoking. But some flavors for some brands contain a slew of toxic chemicals including diacetyl which is known to cause serious respiratory diseases. I am not going to google the rest for you. You can do that on your own.
I am not against vaping. I just want people to not vape blindly.
Yes it causes popcorn lung. Fortunately where I buy my juices do not use the bad flavoring. The only use flavoring that doesn't cause damage. Vaping is like everything else. Don't do it blindly and make sure your juice provider knows whats bad and what isn't
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I love vaping. I smoked cigars like crazy while I build race engines. I’d always have one in my mouth. My daughter couldn’t stand how I smelled when I came home so I started vaping and love it. Been vaping on and off for years now. I slowly went down to zero nic. So I just do it for the flavor now.
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I have been back and forth with vaping and smoking for about 10 years now. Initially, I quit for about 3 months. Something happened, I went back to cigarettes. Last year, I quit for nearly 6 months, then went back. Right now I am at just over 2 weeks since my last cigarette.
I have tried every kind of vaping imaginable, and honestly, I like almost all of them, with the exception of salt nic, too harsh for me. Right now, I'm using 9mg in a Lost Vape Orion as my all day, treating it identical to a cigarette. Make myself go outside and everything. But when im bumming around the house watching TV, that's when the dripper comes out. 3mg, running dual braided coils, build comes out at 0.14 ohms, nice and warm, smooth as velvet, the feeling of those thick clouds is much more satisfying, but it looks absurd to take pulls like that in public, hence the small device for carrying.
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Originally Posted by Skeptiball
I have to be honest here - it takes a lot to turn my stomach, but cigarette smoke cuts right to the quick. It is so foul smelling that it is difficult for me to keep my cool when it's around. Both my parents smoked during my entire childhood and I wanted to kick them in the face every time they lit up. I'm not speaking in hyperbole either. I'm a child of the '70s and '80s so it just seemed omnipresent and I'm very intolerant of it to this day. Whenever I see a cigarette in someones mouth I think it looks so ridiculously stupid. I just don't get the entire appeal.
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Same here, my parents were "human chimneys"...I've never smoked (or vaped) anything in my life, I've never wanted to, & I can guarantee I never will.
What a huge waste of health & money.
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Re: Vaping/Juul and "quitting smoking"
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Originally Posted by fadingdaylight
I have been back and forth with vaping and smoking for about 10 years now. Initially, I quit for about 3 months. Something happened, I went back to cigarettes. Last year, I quit for nearly 6 months, then went back. Right now I am at just over 2 weeks since my last cigarette.
I have tried every kind of vaping imaginable, and honestly, I like almost all of them, with the exception of salt nic, too harsh for me. Right now, I'm using 9mg in a Lost Vape Orion as my all day, treating it identical to a cigarette. Make myself go outside and everything. But when im bumming around the house watching TV, that's when the dripper comes out. 3mg, running dual braided coils, build comes out at 0.14 ohms, nice and warm, smooth as velvet, the feeling of those thick clouds is much more satisfying, but it looks absurd to take pulls like that in public, hence the small device for carrying.
I'm with you. I have an Orion for use when I need smaller clouds, and the Juul for when I need no clouds.
On my desk right now have my deathwish plague doctor mech with .12 fraliens and my custom DNA from mad modder with a .10 staged alien/fused clafton.
And look, I just made this a vape snob conversation lol
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Originally Posted by Bogertophis
Same here, my parents were "human chimneys"...I've never smoked (or vaped) anything in my life, I've never wanted to, & I can guarantee I never will.
What a huge waste of health & money.
I remember both my parents smoking in the car with me and my younger brother trapped in the back seat. My dad would "crack" the window for us, but that never helped. Essentially they hot-boxed me and my brother for well over a decade. No amount of begging or reasoning would make them stop.
Just writing that made me remember a time I was called into the office in seventh grade. My mom dropped me off at school and smoked during the entire drive there. When I got to school, the cigarette smoke smell was so heavy on me that the crossing guard reported me to the principle. She thought I was smoking before school. The principle explained the dangers of smoking to me and I had to explain to him I smelled like that because of my mother. I had a take home a note for my mom to sign and not even that got her to quit.
Geez, I didn't realize this thread would be such a trigger! :rage::rofl:
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Originally Posted by Skeptiball
I remember both my parents smoking in the car with me and my younger brother trapped in the back seat. My dad would "crack" the window for us, but that never helped. Essentially they hot-boxed me and my brother for well over a decade. No amount of begging or reasoning would make them stop.
Just writing that made me remember a time I was called into the office in seventh grade. My mom dropped me off at school and smoked during the entire drive there. When I got to school, the cigarette smoke smell was so heavy on me that the crossing guard reported me to the principle. She thought I was smoking before school. The principle explained the dangers of smoking to me and I had to explain to him I smelled like that because of my mother. I had a take home a note for my mom to sign and not even that got her to quit.
Geez, I didn't realize this thread would be such a trigger! :rage::rofl:
Exactly what I remember too...getting dragged along to stores in a state with real winter weather (so the car windows were up) & being forced to inhale that stupid
cigarette smoke. None of us kids grew up to be smokers...:rolleyes: (And if you've never seen someone dying of lung cancer, it's not pretty.) My mom used to smoke while
getting dressed for work in the bathroom (putting on make-up) & she got mad at me when I finally pointed out that those ugly little amber drip-globs on the ceiling were
the tar from her cigarettes that mixed with condensation...talk about "not handling the truth", lol.
Just like you, when I was a teenager, I can recall my dentist accusing me of smoking...the smell was of course all over my clothes & long hair from at home... :rolleye2:
Tobacco companies really did a number on this country, hiding what they knew was deliberately addicting people & making them sick, anything for their profits.
My mom finally quit many years later...she used acupuncture & it worked for her. My dad only quit after giving himself years of COPD misery & fatal heart disease. :rolleyes:
Every time I fill out my medical history for a new doctor, my answer to the smoking question is "you couldn't PAY me to smoke!"
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I've been vaping for about 4 years now. For me, it got me off dip. I was dipping a tin - tin and a half a day and decided it was time to quit.
Vaping made quitting dip easy.
I just recently bought my second setup (I had good luck with my first!!). I was lucky to get almost 4 years out of the mod and only replaced the tank once.
Bad Drip Labs is a favorite juice company of mine. Cereal Trip is hands down my favorite juice. Other than that I stick to local companies. I like to keep a few cereal/fruity bottles and a custardy bottle on hand at all times.
I've had good luck with fruit loop flavors, berry flavors, thing like blueberry cake, strawberry milk pie, Apple jacks, fruit roll ups, etc...
For custard I found one I really like that's vanilla custard with pecan and butterscotch drizzle.
When I first started vaping you could test flavors in the store before buying, which was AWESOME!! But since you can't tax samples the state squashed it. If the state don't get their cut you can't do it!!!
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Originally Posted by Avsha531
I'm with you. I have an Orion for use when I need smaller clouds, and the Juul for when I need no clouds.
On my desk right now have my deathwish plague doctor mech with .12 fraliens and my custom DNA from mad modder with a .10 staged alien/fused clafton.
And look, I just made this a vape snob conversation lol
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Nice. Love those Plague Doctors. Deathwish has been on my wish list for a while now, and I almost bought one a few weeks back, but decided to upgrade my BP enclosure first. Right now I'm running the Rune RDA on a Minikin Boost. Long car trips usually mean I'm taking the Drag 2 with the Uforce T2 tank. Never really liked tanks much, but they are good for those long drives. Right or wrong, I am also known to drip and drive regularly.
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Originally Posted by Craiga 01453
I've been vaping for about 4 years now. For me, it got me off dip. I was dipping a tin - tin and a half a day and decided it was time to quit.
Vaping made quitting dip easy.
I just recently bought my second setup (I had good luck with my first!!). I was lucky to get almost 4 years out of the mod and only replaced the tank once.
Bad Drip Labs is a favorite juice company of mine. Cereal Trip is hands down my favorite juice. Other than that I stick to local companies. I like to keep a few cereal/fruity bottles and a custardy bottle on hand at all times.
I've had good luck with fruit loop flavors, berry flavors, thing like blueberry cake, strawberry milk pie, Apple jacks, fruit roll ups, etc...
For custard I found one I really like that's vanilla custard with pecan and butterscotch drizzle.
When I first started vaping you could test flavors in the store before buying, which was AWESOME!! But since you can't tax samples the state squashed it. If the state don't get their cut you can't do it!!!
Have they not got on board with the sampling club thing yet? Here in Arkansas, you pay 25 cents to become a member of the sampling club for a year, then you can try all the juices you want before you buy.
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Originally Posted by fadingdaylight
Have they not got on board with the sampling club thing yet? Here in Arkansas, you pay 25 cents to become a member of the sampling club for a year, then you can try all the juices you want before you buy.
That would be outstanding!!!! Something tells me MA would make it more like 25 DOLLARS though. Greedy SOBs
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Originally Posted by fadingdaylight
Nice. Love those Plague Doctors. Deathwish has been on my wish list for a while now, and I almost bought one a few weeks back, but decided to upgrade my BP enclosure first. Right now I'm running the Rune RDA on a Minikin Boost. Long car trips usually mean I'm taking the Drag 2 with the Uforce T2 tank. Never really liked tanks much, but they are good for those long drives. Right or wrong, I am also known to drip and drive regularly.
I've actually gotten heavy into the RTA game for driving and walking, my go to for clouds is the kylin v2 and for single coil the Gear by OFRF.
And totally grab a plague doctor with some Sanyo 2070C batteries, thing hits like a train and is gorgeous to boot. You will not be disappointed
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Originally Posted by Avsha531
I've actually gotten heavy into the RTA game for driving and walking, my go to for clouds is the kylin v2 and for single coil the Gear by OFRF.
And totally grab a plague doctor with some Sanyo 2070C batteries, thing hits like a train and is gorgeous to boot. You will not be disappointed
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Had the original Kylin, but filling it was a pain. Still have two of the Pulse squonk boxes floating around here somewhere, those were pretty good for trips too. I picked up the Limitless Mech V2 a while back, but in all honesty, the tube itself was awful. The Chief RDA that came on it is fantastic though.
Yeah, I'm definitely going to pickup a Deathwish before long, and my eyes are always open for a dual 20700 squonk box, I think that would the about the end all for me.
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Originally Posted by fadingdaylight
Had the original Kylin, but filling it was a pain. Still have two of the Pulse squonk boxes floating around here somewhere, those were pretty good for trips too. I picked up the Limitless Mech V2 a while back, but in all honesty, the tube itself was awful. The Chief RDA that came on it is fantastic though.
Yeah, I'm definitely going to pickup a Deathwish before long, and my eyes are always open for a dual 20700 squonk box, I think that would the about the end all for me.
I have the pulse squonk, its 20700 but not thrilled with it. Check out the Dovpo(sp?)
Original kylin sucked in my opinion. The v2 has a much bigger fill hole, much better deck, and they shrunk down the wick ports considerably. A bit of a pain to wick, but watch some YouTube videos and once you get it you're good.
Also never liked those limitless tubes they were super hit a few years back but I sold mine and got a SOI Subzero instead. Also used to rock the switchmod lol
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Originally Posted by Avsha531
I have the pulse squonk, its 20700 but not thrilled with it. Check out the Dovpo(sp?)
Original kylin sucked in my opinion. The v2 has a much bigger fill hole, much better deck, and they shrunk down the wick ports considerably. A bit of a pain to wick, but watch some YouTube videos and once you get it you're good.
Also never liked those limitless tubes they were super hit a few years back but I sold mine and got a SOI Subzero instead. Also used to rock the switchmod lol
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Man, if cost were no issue, that Boxer 250C squonk...
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Originally Posted by Avsha531
I'm with you. I have an Orion for use when I need smaller clouds, and the Juul for when I need no clouds.
On my desk right now have my deathwish plague doctor mech with .12 fraliens and my custom DNA from mad modder with a .10 staged alien/fused clafton.
And look, I just made this a vape snob conversation lol
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wayyyyy over my head.
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Originally Posted by fadingdaylight
Nice. Love those Plague Doctors. Deathwish has been on my wish list for a while now, and I almost bought one a few weeks back, but decided to upgrade my BP enclosure first. Right now I'm running the Rune RDA on a Minikin Boost. Long car trips usually mean I'm taking the Drag 2 with the Uforce T2 tank. Never really liked tanks much, but they are good for those long drives. Right or wrong, I am also known to drip and drive regularly.
drip and drive....? i'm so lost here haha!
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drip and drive....? i'm so lost here haha!
Lol in a nutshell an rda is a "tank" in which you build your own coils, and opposed to there actually being a glass tank to fill up you have to refill the coils (drip) after every few hits. Benefit of rda vs a refillable tank is you can customize coil build for more flavor and cloud production (kinda like Android vs Apple [emoji14]).
Dripping and driving is generally not viewed as the safest activity. However I am guilty as well
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Yep, you literally have to drip juice from the bottle on to the coils and wicking materials every few puffs, which typically makes it a bad idea when driving. Think really intense texting while driving, kinda that bad.
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Originally Posted by fadingdaylight
Yep, you literally have to drip juice from the bottle on to the coils and wicking materials every few puffs, which typically makes it a bad idea when driving. Think really intense texting while driving, kinda that bad.
Its not as bad as texting lol, also a squirt bottle and a chuff cap make it a lot simpler
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so complicated. i will stick to my little Juul for now. been using off-brand nicotine and cbd pods. happy so far. i would love that little charger box.
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Originally Posted by SilentHill
so complicated. i will stick to my little Juul for now. been using off-brand nicotine and cbd pods. happy so far. i would love that little charger box.
Theres a few brands, I've liked the original Jili box the best
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Its not as bad as texting lol, also a squirt bottle and a chuff cap make it a lot simpler
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I'm bad about counting drops, depending on the RDA, it can be 14, 18, 22...
A quick squeeze always seems to turn into juice running all down my hand and mod. Hence, the Orion for when I'm out these days.
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I'm bad about counting drops, depending on the RDA, it can be 14, 18, 22...
HAHAHAHAAHAAAA
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Im sorry but for a tank and MOD the best combo I found so far was the AEGIS Legend and the Freemax Mesh pro. The reason I like this mod is that its basically indestructible. I went through 3 mods in 2 months before I got the AEGIS. b4 the AEGIS I was a SMOK Fanboy. SMOK is good, but their mods don't last.
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Im sorry but for a tank and MOD the best combo I found so far was the AEGIS Legend and the Freemax Mesh pro. The reason I like this mod is that its basically indestructible. I went through 3 mods in 2 months before I got the AEGIS. b4 the AEGIS I was a SMOK Fanboy. SMOK is good, but their mods don't last.
I prefer higher end. My daily driver is the Lost Vape paranormal. But overkill for a beginner. Nothing wrong with the Aegis. And again mesh pro hands down best tank with a replaceable coil
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Originally Posted by sur3fir3
Im sorry but for a tank and MOD the best combo I found so far was the AEGIS Legend and the Freemax Mesh pro. The reason I like this mod is that its basically indestructible. I went through 3 mods in 2 months before I got the AEGIS. b4 the AEGIS I was a SMOK Fanboy. SMOK is good, but their mods don't last.
No, they don't. And they grew so fast that their quality control is bad. They make decent tanks, but I try to steer people away from the SMOK mods.
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My wife tried the JUUL but didn't like it. She is now going to try the FUMA. They make some that look like cigarette's and her step mother likes the FUMA she say's it's the best vape she has tried but I am sure there are many,many types out there.
I also for myself am very anti-smoking and vaping. I've seen what it did to my parents. But would be willing to see my wife taper down nicotene (and hopefully quit) using one and I agree they have to be better than cigarette's health wise. But I've read about vaping and would think quitting would be the best reason for using them, because of health reasons. So we need one that has tapering down amounts of nicotine.
Does anyone here have knowledge about a certain chemical in vapes that some people can be actually allergic too and thus have problem using the vape. My wife coughs bad when she tries to use them. But where hoping that it will go away. But is might be the chemical in them which is propylene glycol Are there vapes that don't have that chemical in them. It's something like VG or some other initials. So can someone who has a clue help us out here? PS sorry for the font change, I'm not yelling LOL
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Re: Vaping/Juul and "quitting smoking"
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Originally Posted by ballpythonsrock2
My wife tried the JUUL but didn't like it. She is now going to try the FUMA. They make some that look like cigarette's and her step mother likes the FUMA she say's it's the best vape she has tried but I am sure there are many,many types out there.
I also for myself am very anti-smoking and vaping. I've seen what it did to my parents. But would be willing to see my wife taper down nicotene (and hopefully quit) using one and I agree they have to be better than cigarette's health wise. But I've read about vaping and would think quitting would be the best reason for using them, because of health reasons. So we need one that has tapering down amounts of nicotine.
Does anyone here have knowledge about a certain chemical in vapes that some people can be actually allergic too and thus have problem using the vape. My wife coughs bad when she tries to use them. But where hoping that it will go away. But is might be the chemical in them which is propylene glycol Are there vapes that don't have that chemical in them. It's something like VG or some other initials. So can someone who has a clue help us out here? PS sorry for the font change, I'm not yelling LOL
Vape juice contains Vegetable Glycerin (VG) and Propelyne Glycol (PG). To the best of my knowledge, those are the base ingredients (on different percentages) of all e-juice.
It's very possible that's she coughing a lot from vaping if she is still actively smoking cigarettes as well, cigs burn the cilia in the respiratory tract and the vape irritates the damaged cilia.
But with the juul I have found it very irritating to my throat if I use it a lot. A simple yet very effective fix is just to drink water when it feels irritated
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Re: Vaping/Juul and "quitting smoking"
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Originally Posted by ballpythonsrock2
My wife tried the JUUL but didn't like it. She is now going to try the FUMA. They make some that look like cigarette's and her step mother likes the FUMA she say's it's the best vape she has tried but I am sure there are many,many types out there.
I also for myself am very anti-smoking and vaping. I've seen what it did to my parents. But would be willing to see my wife taper down nicotene (and hopefully quit) using one and I agree they have to be better than cigarette's health wise. But I've read about vaping and would think quitting would be the best reason for using them, because of health reasons. So we need one that has tapering down amounts of nicotine.
Does anyone here have knowledge about a certain chemical in vapes that some people can be actually allergic too and thus have problem using the vape. My wife coughs bad when she tries to use them. But where hoping that it will go away. But is might be the chemical in them which is propylene glycol Are there vapes that don't have that chemical in them. It's something like VG or some other initials. So can someone who has a clue help us out here? PS sorry for the font change, I'm not yelling LOL
Typically, e-juice is comprised of 3 parts PG, VG, and flavoring. Propylene Glycol (commonly mistaken for ethylene glycol, which is a component of anti-freeze) is a humectant, commonly found in almost everything. From packaged foods to cigarette tobacco, PG is used to keep things from drying out, and is considered pretty much harmless by the FDA. Vegetable Glycerin is another common item in many foods. The flavoring is where most people get into trouble.
Normally, if a vape is too "dry" or "throaty", it is a result of a high PG ratio in the mix. Using those pre-filled pod type vapes typically means 50/50 PG/VG. This tends to induce coughing in a lot of people. Switching to a refillable type system and a juice that is more like 30% PG and 70% VG should fix this for her. There are also juices available that are 100% VG, but bear in mind that the PG is what Carrie's flavor, so full VG juices tend to have a weird, oily taste.
Different flavors can made a million ways, and some are produced with alcohol, which can become harsh. Artificial sweeteners can have the same issue, but natural sweeteners tend to gum up atomizer coils quickly.
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Re: Vaping/Juul and "quitting smoking"
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Originally Posted by fadingdaylight
Typically, e-juice is comprised of 3 parts PG, VG, and flavoring. Propylene Glycol (commonly mistaken for ethylene glycol, which is a component of anti-freeze) is a humectant, commonly found in almost everything. From packaged foods to cigarette tobacco, PG is used to keep things from drying out, and is considered pretty much harmless by the FDA. Vegetable Glycerin is another common item in many foods. The flavoring is where most people get into trouble.
Normally, if a vape is too "dry" or "throaty", it is a result of a high PG ratio in the mix. Using those pre-filled pod type vapes typically means 50/50 PG/VG. This tends to induce coughing in a lot of people. Switching to a refillable type system and a juice that is more like 30% PG and 70% VG should fix this for her. There are also juices available that are 100% VG, but bear in mind that the PG is what Carrie's flavor, so full VG juices tend to have a weird, oily taste.
Different flavors can made a million ways, and some are produced with alcohol, which can become harsh. Artificial sweeteners can have the same issue, but natural sweeteners tend to gum up atomizer coils quickly.
Very well said. Much applause
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Re: Vaping/Juul and "quitting smoking"
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Originally Posted by ballpythonsrock2
My wife tried the JUUL but didn't like it. She is now going to try the FUMA. They make some that look like cigarette's and her step mother likes the FUMA she say's it's the best vape she has tried but I am sure there are many,many types out there.
I also for myself am very anti-smoking and vaping. I've seen what it did to my parents. But would be willing to see my wife taper down nicotene (and hopefully quit) using one and I agree they have to be better than cigarette's health wise. But I've read about vaping and would think quitting would be the best reason for using them, because of health reasons. So we need one that has tapering down amounts of nicotine.
Does anyone here have knowledge about a certain chemical in vapes that some people can be actually allergic too and thus have problem using the vape. My wife coughs bad when she tries to use them. But where hoping that it will go away. But is might be the chemical in them which is propylene glycol Are there vapes that don't have that chemical in them. It's something like VG or some other initials. So can someone who has a clue help us out here? PS sorry for the font change, I'm not yelling LOL
You can get vape juice that is 100% VG (Vegetable glycerin) This will reduce the need to cough. PG Propylene Glycol is what gives u the feeling in the back of your throat. Generally Juice is 80/20 or 70/30 80 VG and 20 PG. the 100% VG doesnt taste as good as the 80/20 from what I've been told. I've only used 80/20. Another thing that causes coughing with vapes is if people hit them like they do a cig. to hit a vape you should put your whole mouth around the end and inhale without any extra air. I know most people that start vaping cough a lot at first. Just have her take it easy until her throat is used to the vapor.
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Re: Vaping/Juul and "quitting smoking"
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Originally Posted by Avsha531
Very well said. Much applause
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I tried making my own juice for a while. I discovered that I don't have the patience to let it steep.
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Re: Vaping/Juul and "quitting smoking"
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Originally Posted by sur3fir3
You can get vape juice that is 100% VG (Vegetable glycerin) This will reduce the need to cough. PG Propylene Glycol is what gives u the feeling in the back of your throat. Generally Juice is 80/20 or 70/30 80 VG and 20 PG. the 100% VG doesnt taste as good as the 80/20 from what I've been told. I've only used 80/20. Another thing that causes coughing with vapes is if people hit them like they do a cig. to hit a vape you should put your whole mouth around the end and inhale without any extra air. I know most people that start vaping cough a lot at first. Just have her take it easy until her throat is used to the vapor.
Good point here. Vaping is generally not meant to be "mouth to lung" the way a cigarette is. Even equipment that states that it is meant to be used MTL is generally going to be much smoother with a direct lung pull. Tell her to try inhaling deeply, from the vaporizer all the way into the lung, instead of pulling from the device to the mouth, then into the lung. Not sure how the FUMA works, but it may help smooth things out.
One last thing, nicotine content is everything. Salt nicotine juices used in a lot of these newer pods can run from 25-50mg. That is a ton of nicotine. The average American cigarette contains just over 9mg, of which only about 8mg converts to free nicotine in the bloodstream.
More nicotine makes juices much harder on the throat. I have been vaping for about 10 years, smoked since I was 12, and I can't do salt nic, it is too harsh for me. Personally, I like 3mg for a smooth hit. But I use 9mg most of the day right now to be comparable in nicotine content to a cigarette.
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Re: Vaping/Juul and "quitting smoking"
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Originally Posted by sur3fir3
You can get vape juice that is 100% VG (Vegetable glycerin) This will reduce the need to cough. PG Propylene Glycol is what gives u the feeling in the back of your throat. Generally Juice is 80/20 or 70/30 80 VG and 20 PG. the 100% VG doesnt taste as good as the 80/20 from what I've been told. I've only used 80/20. Another thing that causes coughing with vapes is if people hit them like they do a cig. to hit a vape you should put your whole mouth around the end and inhale without any extra air. I know most people that start vaping cough a lot at first. Just have her take it easy until her throat is used to the vapor.
You can, however max VG will not perform properly unless used in a more powerful sub ohm setup due to higher viscosity and less wicking capability than PG
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Re: Vaping/Juul and "quitting smoking"
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Originally Posted by Avsha531
You can, however max VG will not perform properly unless used in a more powerful sub ohm setup due to higher viscosity and less wicking capability than PG
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I was not aware of this ^^
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Re: Vaping/Juul and "quitting smoking"
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Originally Posted by Avsha531
You can, however max VG will not perform properly unless used in a more powerful sub ohm setup due to higher viscosity and less wicking capability than PG
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Very good point. VG is much thicker than PG, and will not wick the same way in smaller set ups. That is why most of them come prefilled with 50/50, it is thin enough to wick right in those tiny coils and wicks.
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In the end, vaping is a very personal, hands on kinda thing. Everyone likes their vape their own way, and it takes time and tinkering to get it dialed in just the way you like it. Unlike cigarettes, there really is no "one way" about it.
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