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  • 05-02-2019, 12:23 PM
    Skyrivers
    Cool find. Blue eyed boa? Or bad photo?
    Just admiring from here, but awesome looking animal for sure. Blue eyes?

    https://www.morphmarket.com/us/c/rep...rictors/197994
  • 05-02-2019, 12:28 PM
    richardhind1972
    Re: Cool find. Blue eyed boa? Or bad photo?
    The vpi snows have like a grey almost metallic coloured eye, hard to explain the colour really, looks amazing and cool

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  • 05-02-2019, 12:28 PM
    pretends2bnormal
    Re: Cool find. Blue eyed boa? Or bad photo?
    They certainly do appear blue. I'd guess that it may be more silver than blue in real life and is reflecting more blue from something in the room or a cool-toned light source. Very pretty either way though.

    (Think how light blue eyes in humans appear to change based on what you wear. Gray shirt --> eyes appear more silver, blue shirt --> eyes appear more blue)

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  • 05-02-2019, 12:31 PM
    Skyrivers
    Re: Cool find. Blue eyed boa? Or bad photo?
    Was it good that I posted this? I thought was cool so I shared it.
  • 05-02-2019, 12:33 PM
    richardhind1972
    Re: Cool find. Blue eyed boa? Or bad photo?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Skyrivers View Post
    Was it good that I posted this? I thought was cool so I shared it.

    I saw this photo on Instagram the other day and commented how cool the yes was on it

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  • 05-02-2019, 12:39 PM
    ladywhipple02
    Re: Cool find. Blue eyed boa? Or bad photo?
    Some anery/ghost/snow complexes have eyes that look blue. They're typically a very light grey or silver, but awesome still the same. My jungle ghost girl has "bluish" eyes which is part of the reason I bought her.
  • 05-02-2019, 12:54 PM
    Skyrivers
    Re: Cool find. Blue eyed boa? Or bad photo?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ladywhipple02 View Post
    Some anery/ghost/snow complexes have eyes that look blue. They're typically a very light grey or silver, but awesome still the same. My jungle ghost girl has "bluish" eyes which is part of the reason I bought her.

    Awesome. My dwarf boa, Ruby, I got her as a rescue but have no clue her morph other than she is a dwarf. Would you be able to help identify her?
  • 05-02-2019, 01:20 PM
    Toad37
    Re: Cool find. Blue eyed boa? Or bad photo?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Skyrivers View Post
    Awesome. My dwarf boa, Ruby, I got her as a rescue but have no clue her morph other than she is a dwarf. Would you be able to help identify her?

    Usually true dwarfs are only hypo, anery, or maybe albino. If she has anything else I'm pretty sure she's been cross bread. I'm no expert but that's what I've read in Vin Russo's book but show us a picture I'd love to see her!
  • 05-02-2019, 01:38 PM
    Skyrivers
    Re: Cool find. Blue eyed boa? Or bad photo?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Toad37 View Post
    Usually true dwarfs are only hypo, anery, or maybe albino. If she has anything else I'm pretty sure she's been cross bread. I'm no expert but that's what I've read in Vin Russo's book but show us a picture I'd love to see her!

    The photos are on page 5 of this thread.

    https://ball-pythons.net/forums/show...r-health/page5

    Will try to update the photos today. Today is cleaning day so everyone will be taken out.
  • 05-02-2019, 02:21 PM
    Toad37
    Re: Cool find. Blue eyed boa? Or bad photo?
    She looks like a Panamanian dwarf boa to me but once again I'm no expert so if someone else is more knowledgeable of dwarf locales please correct me. There's no way of actually without knowing what her parents were or doing scale counts. Either way she is a very beautiful boa!
  • 05-02-2019, 02:43 PM
    Skyrivers
    Re: Cool find. Blue eyed boa? Or bad photo?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Toad37 View Post
    She looks like a Panamanian dwarf boa to me but once again I'm no expert so if someone else is more knowledgeable of dwarf locales please correct me. There's no way of actually without knowing what her parents were or doing scale counts. Either way she is a very beautiful boa!

    Scale counts? Please tell me more.
  • 05-02-2019, 03:39 PM
    Toad37
    Re: Cool find. Blue eyed boa? Or bad photo?
    I'm not sure the exact science on it since I've never done it. I'm sure a quick Google search on it will explain it way better than I could but the way I understand it every species and localities have a specific number of scales from snout to vent. Counting scales seems like a daunting task to me which is why I've never done it lol. But you take a complete shed and count rows of scales. I also think most locales have a certain number of saddles compared to others.
  • 05-02-2019, 03:49 PM
    richardhind1972
    Re: Cool find. Blue eyed boa? Or bad photo?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Toad37 View Post
    Usually true dwarfs are only hypo, anery, or maybe albino. If she has anything else I'm pretty sure she's been cross bread. I'm no expert but that's what I've read in Vin Russo's book but show us a picture I'd love to see her!

    Only the hogg island is more hypo but Most of the true dwarfs like Mexican tarahumara, sonoran and crawl cay are mostly normal looking boas, but Even my Nicaraguan and my red bellied corn Island boas both are under 5ft and over 4 yrs old
    Even most of leopards(from Sonoran boas) and blood boas are under 5ft

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  • 05-02-2019, 04:09 PM
    Toad37
    Re: Cool find. Blue eyed boa? Or bad photo?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by richardhind1972 View Post
    Only the hogg island is more hypo but Most of the true dwarfs like Mexican tarahumara, sonoran and crawl cay are mostly normal looking boas, but Even my Nicaraguan and my red bellied corn Island boas both are under 5ft and over 4 yrs old
    Even most of leopards(from Sonoran boas) and blood boas are under 5ft

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    That's what I was thinking. I have a pair of crawl cays and they shouldn't get any bigger than 5ft for the female and maybe 4ft for the male. They're only 9 months old so we have a few years to go before they're full grown. Thanks for the input!
  • 05-03-2019, 08:48 AM
    ladywhipple02
    Re: Cool find. Blue eyed boa? Or bad photo?
    A lot of folks can give a educated guess on what your boa might be, but there's really no way to know for sure unless you speak to the breeder. She looks central-american-ish with the darker colors, but she could just be a dark columbian BI, or a mix of a couple different types.

    Read through some of these pages: https://web.archive.org/web/20080816....com/index.htm

    This guy used to be the best in the biz at locality morphs, and hand collected many of his own lines straight from the wild. He goes a bit into "counts" including scale counts and saddle counts. He observed that some boas have a specific number of saddles, some have a specific number of caudal scales, some you can tell a difference by the number of big scales on their heads. It's not an exact science, especially as a lot of boa are "mixed" - central american with columbian, etc.

    Side note: I do your girl's tail colors - they're dark, but I bet they shine deep ruby red in the sunlight.
  • 05-03-2019, 09:07 AM
    Skyrivers
    Re: Cool find. Blue eyed boa? Or bad photo?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ladywhipple02 View Post
    A lot of folks can give a educated guess on what your boa might be, but there's really no way to know for sure unless you speak to the breeder. She looks central-american-ish with the darker colors, but she could just be a dark columbian BI, or a mix of a couple different types.

    Read through some of these pages: https://web.archive.org/web/20080816....com/index.htm

    This guy used to be the best in the biz at locality morphs, and hand collected many of his own lines straight from the wild. He goes a bit into "counts" including scale counts and saddle counts. He observed that some boas have a specific number of saddles, some have a specific number of caudal scales, some you can tell a difference by the number of big scales on their heads. It's not an exact science, especially as a lot of boa are "mixed" - central american with columbian, etc.

    Side note: I do your girl's tail colors - they're dark, but I bet they shine deep ruby red in the sunlight.

    Thank you. Will read tonight when I am off work.

    Her tail is bright and deep red. Nice and dark. Love her belly freckling as well. She is amazing.
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