A day with wolves.

I spent time studding animals in the wild when I get a chance. I spent a day with a wild pack of wolves under the supervision of a biologist friend of mine and it was amazing to see how they behave in the wild. Very militaristic when dealing with someone new around to see if you are friend, foe, or food. Friend being a generous word for "you pose no threat". Mama to most of the pack (I think) and mate to the leader of the pack was the true woman in charge. She barked orders to the others. Now they were somewhat acquainted with the presence of people but had little interest in us. When I walked up they noticed me right away and I am sure could smell me as a new presence. Mama began to vocalize her concerns. Daddy (alpha male) stood in front of the pack on high alert looking as large and foreboding as he could. His face was full of scars and one ear was missing chunks. I was told by the guy who was studying them that he was being challenged by one of his offspring from time to time. Now there were 2 brothers. One was often challenge the father for leadership of the pack and his litter mate that was right there encouraging him. The other juvenile males were in formation surrounding mama whos pups, from a litter she had 3 weeks earlier, were standing at her feet attempting to hide in the grass at her feet. The juvenile females were attempting to hide behind mama and all the males.

Daddy was clear in his challenge to my presence. He was saying, "I am in charge and will protect my family!". This was amazing to me how efficient they responded and performed Mamas orders. A strong level of coordination and respect for what they were told. We were out in the open. Any of them could come right up to us and I was amazed when Daddy decided to walk close. I could not resist the urge to offer my hand with my eyes avoiding direct contact with him. He came within inches of my hand. Adrenaline was pumping and my heart was racing as he sniffed the air. He just stood there for a moment. I can only speculate what he might be thinking. He simply turned around and went about 20 feet away and settled down keeping a close watch on me. Mama was took another 15 to 20 minuets to relax and even then she kept the pups close to her.

I was loving every moment of this. After about an hour passes and the entire pack began to relax. Daddy was starting to pretend to ignore us. Mama was still keeping a watchful eye. I was surprised at how strict she was on the pups and disciplined them rather harshly from time to time when they did something that needed correcting. By now the juvenile males were starting to investigate us. Yep... the 2 brothers were the first two that approached. Keep in mind was briefed ahead of time on what to do nor do I recommend doing this on your own. One tried to distract me while the other male (the assumed next alpha of the pack) tried to come up from behind. The male behind me nudged me with his snout and nibbled to see my reaction. I quickly turned and smacked him hard right on the nose. I hit him as hard as I could! The nose is not a good place to get hit because it hurts! Was told that this was the proper response to let him know he could not dominate me. Mama stood up looking at me as the 2 males backed off with a little more respect for me. He was testing me. I was told that any other response I would be seen as prey and most likely killed by the pack. Daddy just looked over and then went back to lounging in the shade.

The next 5 hours was simply amazing. The 2 males tried 3 more times to challenge me and as long as I didn't back down but did not act aggressively towards them I was in no real danger. I loved every moment of it!

What an amazing experience, so cool, thanks for sharing very interesting, I would love to do something like that


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Would love to see some pictures!

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Originally Posted by Skyrivers

I spent a day with a wild pack of wolves

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Canis lupus, Canis lupus lycaon or one of the other species?

come on, u did not punch a wolf in the nose. lol

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Originally Posted by Sonny1318

Would love to see some pictures!

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yeah! make with the pictures!

where did u go to the bathroom during this adventure? i would imagine they would take take as a hostile sign if u peed or pooped on their territory.

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Originally Posted by Ax01

come on, u did not punch a wolf in the nose. lol


yeah! make with the pictures!

where did u go to the bathroom during this adventure? i would imagine they would take take as a hostile sign if u peed or pooped on their territory.

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Reading your post I almost went to the bathroom. Lmao

Was this thread posted on 1st April ?


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Lol. Let's be real here with no photos of that whole experience. I live with cobras Ax. You know that?

http://i64.tinypic.com/vfgn4o.jpg

Yeah I'm on the pics or it didn't happen wagon for this lol

I also have two mama bears that live near my yard. They come over to my family often with their cubs and a mountain lion friend, and I feed them apple pie sometimes. The kangaroo rats also come by to have a slice, but not before the rattlesnakes! It's a desert out here. The rattlesnakes alert their whole crew to come have a slice of rat pie while the other animals get apple.

We know whenever they're coming near, because my mom is actually a fortune teller. We get batches of pie ready.

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Originally Posted by redshepherd

I also have two mama bears that live near my yard. They come over to my family often with their cubs and a mountain lion friend, and I feed them apple pie sometimes. The kangaroo rats also come by to have a slice, but not before the rattlesnakes! It's a desert out here. The rattlesnakes alert their whole crew to come have a slice of rat pie while the other animals get apple.

We know whenever they're coming near, because my mom is actually a fortune teller. We get batches of pie ready.

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Think someone had the wrong type of mushrooms with breakfast, [emoji23]


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Someone here for sure. LOL

I visited some wolves Canis lupus (Gray Wolf) at a preserve: they were 'off limits' for interaction because they had severely mauled the woman studying them. I was standing behind an electrified fence, yet one of them still wanted a piece of me-enough to rush the fence and get shocked. I couldn't imagine being inside the enclosure...their size and overall demeanor is terrifying.

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Originally Posted by Sonny1318

Reading your post I almost went to the bathroom. Lmao

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no pix needed. i believe ya.

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Originally Posted by Neal

Lol. Let's be real here with no photos of that whole experience. I live with cobras Ax. You know that?

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oh i know that. i know u also kept Bitis. butt remember that one time i came over, charmed and kissed your Naja's? i still have the pix around here somewhere.

:)

this was just another one of Skyrivers tall tales. i think this whole story was just one big exaggerated metaphor about himself and his critics.

Probably.... * roasts a marshmallow on the flames coming from this thread*

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Originally Posted by Ax01

this was just another one of Skyrivers tall tales. i think this whole story was just one big exaggerated metaphor about himself and his critics.

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I'm gonna be frank after a whole year of reading, but a lot of what this guy posts are tall tales. Most people grow out of this habit by 5-7 years old, but some people apparently retain it. Lol

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Originally Posted by Ax01

i think this whole story was just one big exaggerated metaphor about himself and his critics.

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Am I the Momma wolf or the Daddy wolf?? lol

Awww c'mon! Cut the poor guy some slack! I have a picture of him with the one of the wolves.

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...psx6iopd1x.jpg

I once caught a bullet with my bare hands.


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Originally Posted by kira

https://ball-pythons.net/forums/cach...com/vfgn4o.jpg

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lmao!!!!!!!!

"The male behind me nudged me with his snout and nibbled to see my reaction. I quickly turned and smacked him hard right on the nose. I hit him as hard as I could! The nose is not a good place to get hit because it hurts! Was told that this was the proper response to let him know he could not dominate me. Mama stood up looking at me as the 2 males backed off with a little more respect for me. He was testing me. I was told that any other response I would be seen as prey and most likely killed by the pack. Daddy just looked over and then went back to lounging in the shade."

For real?

Then what? A "presentation" with the retic later in the afternoon?

Seriously, you smacked a male, Alfa wolf on the nose and were told by your friend it was the right move? Any responsible biologist that is studying wolves would NEVER have somebody new waltz into a pack and hang out.

So you visit this place often enough to be cleared to go sit in with the wolves?

Is tomorrow interacting with bull sharks day by chance?

This is my old dog, the world's first male, press canario to be titled in PSA. He died in 2009.

Anyhow, take a look at what happens when you smack him on the snout.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsaSSAGJIXE

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Originally Posted by Gio

"The male behind me nudged me with his snout and nibbled to see my reaction. I quickly turned and smacked him hard right on the nose. I hit him as hard as I could! The nose is not a good place to get hit because it hurts! Was told that this was the proper response to let him know he could not dominate me. Mama stood up looking at me as the 2 males backed off with a little more respect for me. He was testing me. I was told that any other response I would be seen as prey and most likely killed by the pack. Daddy just looked over and then went back to lounging in the shade."

For real?

Then what? A "presentation" with the retic later in the afternoon?

Seriously, you smacked a male, Alfa wolf on the nose and were told by your friend it was the right move? Any responsible biologist that is studying wolves would NEVER have somebody new waltz into a pack and hang out.

So you visit this place often enough to be cleared to go sit in with the wolves?

Is tomorrow interacting with bull sharks day by chance?

This is my old dog, the world's first male, press canario to be titled in PSA. He died in 2009.

Anyhow, take a look at what happens when you smack him on the snout.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsaSSAGJIXE

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Did I tell you about all the times I’ve hand fed black mambas? Yeah, I just dangle a rat from my teeth and they come grab it and then give me a kiss on the lips as a way of saying thank you. I then take them to petsmart and let children free handle them to help them overcome their fear of snakes. Don’t care what anyone has to say because I’m an expert. Been doing this for about 10-15 minutes.
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Originally Posted by Gio

"The male behind me nudged me with his snout and nibbled to see my reaction. I quickly turned and smacked him hard right on the nose. I hit him as hard as I could! The nose is not a good place to get hit because it hurts! Was told that this was the proper response to let him know he could not dominate me. Mama stood up looking at me as the 2 males backed off with a little more respect for me. He was testing me. I was told that any other response I would be seen as prey and most likely killed by the pack. Daddy just looked over and then went back to lounging in the shade."

For real?

Then what? A "presentation" with the retic later in the afternoon?

Seriously, you smacked a male, Alfa wolf on the nose and were told by your friend it was the right move? Any responsible biologist that is studying wolves would NEVER have somebody new waltz into a pack and hang out.

So you visit this place often enough to be cleared to go sit in with the wolves?

Is tomorrow interacting with bull sharks day by chance?

This is my old dog, the world's first male, press canario to be titled in PSA. He died in 2009.

Anyhow, take a look at what happens when you smack him on the snout.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsaSSAGJIXE

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That's amateur fiction writers for you, they don't always do research on the subject they wanna tell stories about but try to go based on what sounds cool or just plain plot convenience. Ah I'm reminded of good old fanfiction.net days...

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Originally Posted by Gio

"The male behind me nudged me with his snout and nibbled to see my reaction. I quickly turned and smacked him hard right on the nose. I hit him as hard as I could! The nose is not a good place to get hit because it hurts! Was told that this was the proper response to let him know he could not dominate me. Mama stood up looking at me as the 2 males backed off with a little more respect for me. He was testing me. I was told that any other response I would be seen as prey and most likely killed by the pack. Daddy just looked over and then went back to lounging in the shade."

For real?

Then what? A "presentation" with the retic later in the afternoon?

Seriously, you smacked a male, Alfa wolf on the nose and were told by your friend it was the right move? Any responsible biologist that is studying wolves would NEVER have somebody new waltz into a pack and hang out.

So you visit this place often enough to be cleared to go sit in with the wolves?

Is tomorrow interacting with bull sharks day by chance?

This is my old dog, the world's first male, press canario to be titled in PSA. He died in 2009.

Anyhow, take a look at what happens when you smack him on the snout.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsaSSAGJIXE

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I have no clue about PSA as I've done just schutzhund, but that's an awesome reaction to such big smacks! LOL

Anyway- I'm sure Skyrivers has gone to find more perfectly healthy reticulated pythons in his backyard that were removed from morphmarket a week prior, or maybe taking pictures of "his friend's" healthy new snakes that are suddenly his own snakes a couple weeks later (to avoid looking like he's been buying snakes too quickly, of course, they're just falling into his lap every month by chance). Maybe pretending he's been on this forum keeping retics for two years, instead of 1 year, because it would of course make him look like he has a bit more experience... Just a bit.

Maybe eating dinner with bengal tigers and Kim Kardashian right now. You really never know what interesting fiction kids will make up from day to day!

What amazes me about wolves is just how big they really are. You can almost put a saddle on some. They are way bigger than the biggest dogs.

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this was just another one of Skyrivers tall tales. i think this whole story was just one big exaggerated metaphor about himself and his critics.

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And I think it is time for you to go back to your regular off topic threads and a few others to KNOCK it off, following members around and stirring drama in other threads because the previous one was lock is not a good or smart idea and I expect better from some members, so this one is gonna be locked too, and once I get a chance I will evaluate whether infractions need to be handed out.