Peanut Butter and Fluff :)

So we just got home from the expo in New Hampshire. Both snakes are said to be eating F/T. We have bought aproprietly sized hides and both are in there new homes now. I got weights on them but forgot to try for length. Will do that in the future. I wanted a Banana female but didn't see anything that caught my eye in my price range. This girl just called out to me when I saw her. Very friendly and great with handling. Now that they are in there new homes no handling till they have a few meals down. Both explored a bit then found a hide and went in.

We picked up a 2017 female super pastel lesser from CV Exotics. Name is now Peanut Butter
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And a Pastel Bamboo from Piedthonidae Exotics. Name is now Fluff
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Fluff went right to his hide when we put him in.
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Some misc pictures
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We also got some Crested Geckos but I will post in proper section about them.

Congrats! Great names especially peanut butter

Very nice snakes!

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Beautiful new additions...congratulations!

Are you familiar with the site that allows you to measure your snake with just a picture? I use it for mine. Just take an overhead pic next to a ruler or any item you know the size of. I use a lighter as they always seem to be handy and are three inches. You upload the pic, measure your item for scale and then your snake point by point and it’ll tell you the length. Always accurate for me. I don’t know the exact site because I always google “measure my snake” and it pops right up. Super easy.


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I've not heard of that will have to check it out

Serpwidgets! That’s it. Hope it helps you measure your new little ones!


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Beautiful snakes! Congrats!

I think Peanut Butter is ready for a meal. Ordered some F/T rats on Sunday according to what I was told they are both eating and they should arrive Thursday so she will have to wait till Friday at the earliest. Which will be 5 days since I put them in their homes. Will be waiting longer for fluff as he hasn't come out of his hide yet. Peanut Butter is over a year old and seems to be ok with people. Doesn't pop right back into the hide when I open to mist or change water. Haven't held or even gone near her since putting her in, gonna wait a few meals to make sure all is well. I do see her out in the middle of the night when I've peeked in. And she is in a hide all day. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...b0701bf5a9.jpg

Cute little face [emoji173]

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Woo hoo. . Just peeked in on Fluff and he was partially out of his hide.

nice pickups and welcome to snake keeping. it was nice to see your enclosure build thread and i look forward to seeing your progress w/ this pair.

Edit: also Happy Belated Peanut Butter and Jelly Day, which was yesterday i think. :)

Very cool, very nice looking! Beautiful snakes and set up! Congratulations and thanks for sharing!

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Serpwidgets! That’s it. Hope it helps you measure your new little ones!


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Thanks for mentioning the site, I never heard of a site like that, that can actually measure your snake properly. My ball python is 5 years old now and I've been measuring him by hand and its terribly hard to do. Using this site I measured my little guy and he is 4 feet 4 inches.

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nice pickups and welcome to snake keeping. it was nice to see your enclosure build thread and i look forward to seeing your progress w/ this pair.

Edit: also Happy Belated Peanut Butter and Jelly Day, which was yesterday i think. :)

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Haha you’re all over the national holidays!

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Thanks for mentioning the site, I never heard of a site like that, that can actually measure your snake properly. My ball python is 5 years old now and I've been measuring him by hand and its terribly hard to do. Using this site I measured my little guy and he is 4 feet 4 inches.

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That’s awesome! Yes it is incredibly difficult to do by hand. I was struggling to do it and looking for tips online when I stumbled across that site. So glad it was useful to you!


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I was planning to try to use string to measure them but now I will try this next time I'm handling them. Gonna be a couple weeks as they are still in the acclimation period. Will be feeding Peanut butter tonight. Debating on trying with Fluff since he has been coming out of his hide at night I have a rat thing for him as well in case.

Fluff out of his hide last night.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...86543a1efe.jpg

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I was planning to try to use string to measure them but now I will try this next time I'm handling them. Gonna be a couple weeks as they are still in the acclimation period. Will be feeding Peanut butter tonight. Debating on trying with Fluff since he has been coming out of his hide at night I have a rat thing for him as well in case.

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No harm trying. :) Hope the first feeding goes well!

Woohoo... Peanut butter struck good, wrapped and ate no issues. Now she is sitting half out of her hide looking around.

Fluff didn't show interest and almost seemed a little scared so I left the rat in the enclosure a little bit outside the hide he was in. An hour later and I don't see the rat anymore and he is sticking his head out of the hide.

Confirmed. Fluff ate. :gj::gj::fest: So freaking happy all went well. Still gonna take it easy on them especially Fluff as he is a bit more skittish then Peanut Butter. One more feeding with Peanut Butter then I will try handling short times. Will wait a few more feedings with Fluff.

So Peanut Butter had eaten 3 meals and Fluff has eaten 2. Refused 1 in the middle. Here's a pic of Peanut Butter after a quick handling today. Fluff is very skittish still and gonna take a bit more to get comfortable with us. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...5d8f157fea.jpg

Peanut butter is in blue. Too her out for a quick handling and put her right back. Humidity is now up to 72. Making a humid hide now. The girls are Soo excited.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...5b9d995419.jpg

It's going great! :gj:

Party Time... We have a successful first shed with us from Peanut Butter. Found it in the humid hide this afternoon.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...3ab2de8a4f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...6c7071964e.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...c3b87cf5ed.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...2bfcc3eb63.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...4c6598187f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...277b995ec6.jpg

Beautiful little noodle.


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So last night Fluff ate a 19g F/T rat weanling. I have to leave it on a plastic lid and its gone in the morning. When I do the zombie rat dance about 3 inches in front of him as his head is sticking out of his hide he rapidly defensive strikes it multiple times and then goes in his hide. He also seems to like to eat every other week. So far he has eaten 3 times and refused 2 in between. He does seem to be a grumpy little guy. He has defensively struck at both me and my wife while we were in his cage to clean or change water if we got too close to his hide. Never any biting just a nose hit. Humidity in his enclosure is between 55 and 70 and temps are 90 on the hot side and 79 on the cool side with temp gun and 88 to 81 ambient. I haven't weighed him since the initial weigh in when we got him as I have been more concerned with getting meals in him. The person I got him from said he fed him every other week so maybe that is just what he got used to? His meals have been 17g, 20g and 19g weanling rats. The 2 refused ones were 13g. Could it be that those were too small? I typically find a small poop and urate about 2 days after feeding.

Peanut Butter refused to eat last week but that was expected as she was in shed. I just figured I'd try and see as I saw some people say they have snakes that eat in shed. No biggie. Last night she refused again. Same average size small rat served the same way as always. She followed it around with her head as it did the Zombie dance but wanted nothing to do with it. I do use a hair dryer to warm it up before offering it. I feed Fluff first and by the time I got to her turn she was completely out of her hide and up against the door looking at us. There was some blood on this rat so may be that was the turn off? I think I read somewhere that someone's snake doesn't like any blood on its food. Not too concerned yet as she has been a great eater and came from someone who also fed every other week and she ate 3 weeks in a row no issues. Maybe she is just taking a little break as she does weigh about 80g more than when I got her. I left the rat in her enclosure over night to see if she changed her mind but no. So I took the opportunity to change out her water while removing the rat and she came out and was watching me the whole time. We have handled her for 15 min sessions 3 times since she finished shedding the other day. She is active and comes out of her ball very quickly. I think she is doing great so I'm not gonna worry about the missed feeds. Her enclosure is almost exactly like Fluff's as far as husbandry goes but being on top of his I have to set the thermostat a few degrees lower to get same results, even though I have a 2" air gap between.

Got Fluff out for a quick weight check. No striking just a cute little ball. He ate 2 days ago so this is a not empty weight. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...b4c504f6e8.jpg

Usually BPs feel braver (more inclined) to eat if they're in their hide, peeking out, as they're naturally ambush predators, so it's not surprising that Peanut Butter
didn't eat that way last time. Never heard of blood on the rodent being a "turn off" -more likely the opposite. Snakes are in trouble if they get that prissy, lol.

I agree it sounds like Fluff is just used to eating every other week...not a big deal.

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Usually BPs feel braver (more inclined) to eat if they're in their hide, peeking out, as they're naturally ambush predators, so it's not surprising that Peanut Butter
didn't eat that way last time. Never heard of blood on the rodent being a "turn off" -more likely the opposite. Snakes are in trouble if they get that prissy, lol.

I agree it sounds like Fluff is just used to eating every other week...not a big deal.

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2 of Peanut Butter's 3 previous feeds were while completely out of the hide. I'm not worried though will try again after 5 days have passed. I seen to remember reading that they don't like to eat dead animals normally hence us doing the heating and zombie dance

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2 of Peanut Butter's 3 previous feeds were while completely out of the hide. I'm not worried though will try again after 5 days have passed. I seen to remember reading that they don't like to eat dead animals normally hence us doing the heating and zombie dance

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They are not known to be carrion eaters, they make their own kills, so of course the "zombie dance" & heat signatures are important...these are snakes that really rely on
their heat sensing pits, but it gets tricky because they're fairly timid snakes, so too much motion from the rodent can scare them.

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They are not known to be carrion eaters, they make their own kills, so of course the "zombie dance" & heat signatures are important...these are snakes that really rely on
their heat sensing pits, but it gets tricky because they're fairly timid snakes, so too much motion from the rodent can scare them.

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Maybe I misunderstood or misread something about the blood. Thanks guess she just wasn't hungry.

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Maybe I misunderstood or misread something about the blood. Thanks guess she just wasn't hungry.

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It might have put her "off" just because it wasn't a familiar smell? but truly, I would think their instincts would be "all over it" lol. Who knows what's in a snake's mind?

So Fluff ate tonight. 22g F/T rat. Wouldn't strike from the hide but took it quickly from the lid I left it on while I was trying to feed Peanut Butter. I saw him wrap and then watched him drag it into his hide. I think its confirmed he is an every other week eater. we tried on Sunday and no luck.

Now Peanut Butter showed interest, tongue flicks, following it with it's head. But no strike and I doubt she will take it though I left it in the cage. She ate on 4-5, 4-10 and 4-15 , she shed on 4-24 and hasn't eaten since, thats 3.5 weeks since eating. Now the last meal was 79g and the ones before were around 55g ea. I did see her drinking tonight from the water bowl. She moves from cold to hot side hides regularly and we see her out and about at night. She has been great to handle, no hissing or getting ready to strike, no balling up and kinda explores us while we hold her. Have only held her a few times and for less then 10 minutes each time. The cage has stayed pretty constant temps/humidity 90 hot 81 cool and 86-81 ambient. 55-70% humidity. Last poop/urate was on 4-25 and was a pretty good size. There was a slight green hue to part of it but she just had a perfect shed so I didn't think anything of it. Any suggestions?

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Now Peanut Butter showed interest, tongue flicks, following it with it's head. But no strike and I doubt she will take it though I left it in the cage. She ate on 4-5, 4-10 and 4-15 , she shed on 4-24 and hasn't eaten since, thats 3.5 weeks since eating. Now the last meal was 79g and the ones before were around 55g ea.

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I may have missed this earlier, but why the feedings every 5 days for PB? At the size described that seems awfully frequent. I do every 7 days initially and am comfortable pushing it out to 10 once they are sub-adults.

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I may have missed this earlier, but why the feedings every 5 days for PB? At the size described that seems awfully frequent. I do every 7 days initially and am comfortable pushing it out to 10 once they are sub-adults.

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When we got the two of them they had been eating every other week and I felt they were a bit small for there ages so my plan was 3 quick meals then on to weekly, the 3 5-day meals ended on a sunday which was the day I wanted feeding day to be.

Ahhh, OK. I know a lot of emphasis is placed on BP weight in the hobby (probably more important when breeding), but body condition is a better indicator of how they are doing because weight is so variable. I used to weigh my BP's weekly, so I know how it is at first. :) But now I rarely weigh more than maybe once every 2 months because I go off how they look. You want them to have a slight triangular shape. So many snakes in captivity are overfed and obese. PB looked great in that first set of photos you posted of her, so I would try not to worry too much about 3.5 weeks not eating. She did eat a lot more food than she was used to in a short period of time. :)

Took Fluff out for a few minutes of handling.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...da6fb3e1d5.jpg

Woooo Hoooo. Peanut Butter finally ate a 68g F/T rat. :):) I can stop being worried. That was just over a month. Think I will wait 2 weeks for next try. Fluff is officially on a 2 week feed schedule since that is what he has been doing and I don't feel like wasting more rats.

Woohoo. Fluff had his first shed with us. Was complete with eye caps and tail tip. It was a bit damp and ripped while unrolling it as it was in the humid hide.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...845b1c5c46.jpg

Fluff struck for the first time a few days ago. Up till now I've had to leave the rat for him to get when I'm not there. It caught me off guard but it was very exciting. Happy dance

Congrats, beautiful snakes btw!

First strikes are very exciting! :gj: Your little one is growing up! ;)

So it's been an exciting few months. We just bought our first house and we have a room to dedicate to reptiles :):):snake::snake::):) . This is the start of it. Everyone is just put in place for now to get them up and settled in the new home. It will be a year or so before we can dedicate funds to really improving and adding to it in a way to make it a cool reptile room. But its a step closer to a life long dream for my wife and I.


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Peanut Butter and Fluff are doing good. Peanut Butter is up to 1274g and Fluff is growing a bit slower but eating like a champ at 365G. Fluff's feeding response is slowly growing and I think he will start to sprout soon. I've seen him looking for food a few days before feeding day so I may start to feed a little sooner then the 10 day interval he was on before. Might try 7 days again and see if he's up for it.

Peanut Butter
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Fluff still a bit shy at first but unballs quickly when held.

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